Monotype I was ultimate speed (Kingdra/Water Revamp) [QC:1/1] [GP:1/1]

[Pengairxan]

[OVERVIEW]
Water
========
Kingdra is a solid Swift Swim special attacker for Water teams; however, it is only functional in this role and faces competition from Basculegion-F, which has superior Special Attack. Along with that, rain teams can opt to not run a special attacking Swift Swim threat and instead choose to run Choice Specs Greninja to be less reliant on rain overall.

[SET]
Kingdra @ Choice Specs
Name: Choice Specs (Water)
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse / Hydro Pump
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam

[SET COMMENTS]
Kingdra finds a nice place on rain teams thanks to its incredible secondary Dragon typing and solid Speed and Special Attack enabling it to outspeed and check the likes of Choice Scarf Meowscarada, Choice Scarf Roaring Moon, and Kyurem in rain. Draco Meteor lays on the pressure removing the likes of Ogerpon-W and Archaludon reliably after minor chip damage. Dragon Pulse lets Kingdra reliably pressure Dragon-types like non-Choice Scarf Dragapult and Latios without having to deal with dropping its Special Attack. Surf can easily wash away threats such as Iron Valiant, Alolan Muk, and Ogerpon-H after minor chip damage. Alternatively, Hydro Pump can be used as a way to 2HKO specially defensive Articuno along with getting an OHKO against Flutter Mane. Finally, Ice Beam threatens Grass teams and pressures Water Absorb Clodsire.

Pelipper is a mandatory teammate for Kingdra because it sets up rain along with providing safe entry with U-turn. Pelipper can also use Knock Off to remove items like Assault Vest from threats like Tornadus-T and Hisuian Goodra. Barraskewda makes for a great secondary Swift Swim partner, being able to threaten special walls like Articuno, Assault Vest Hoopa-U, and Blissey as well as outspeed foes like Choice Scarf Flutter Mane and Unburden Sneasler. Swampert can provide support against Electric- and Steel-types Kingdra struggles against such as Assault Vest Iron Hands and Hisuian Goodra with Earthquake. It can also set Stealth Rock to provide crucial chip damage against threats like the Ogerpon formes and Archaludon while also being able to pivot Kingdra in with Flip Turn. Eject Button Toxapex can be used to safely pivot Kingdra in, threaten Fairy-types such as Flutter Mane and Primarina, and put Iron Hands and Dragonite on a timer with Toxic. Alternatively, Tentacruel can be used as a Poison-type teammate that can remove entry hazards with Rapid Spin to keep Kingdra healthy as well as pivot it in with Flip Turn. Hisuian Samurott can set Spikes with Ceaseless Edge to help wear down Water Absorb Clodsire and Hisuian Goodra along with being able to use Sucker Punch to remove faster threats like Choice Scarf Dragapult. Ogerpon-W can use its Grass-type STAB moves to handle Water-types like Alomomola, Azumarill, and Primarina.


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Water
-----------
A Modest nature can be used to push out a slight bit more damage from Kingdra, allowing for its Dragon Pulse to OKHO Raging Bolt after Stealth Rock, but it will no longer be able to outspeed Choice Scarf Meowscarada and Roaring Moon. Hurricane can check the Ogerpon formes reliably without having to rely on Draco Meteor; however, it is still only able to 2HKO Amoonguss, while Brambleghast can use it as a free entry point. Flip Turn can be used to keep up momentum against threats that Kingdra can struggle to break through such as Hisuian Goodra and Assault Vest Hoopa-U.

[SET CREDITS]
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[boomp]

[OVERVIEW]
- could also mention the compression bascu is giving for rain teams that kingdra cannot (part ghost typing, better STAB combination)

[SET COMMENTS]
- Mention kyurem as a mon we taking out in the intro sentence as that is a pain in the ass for water in general
- Add non-Choice Scarf infront of Dragapult
- Surf is still a roll to ohko firepon, mention it after minor chip. i feel skarmory is a wack mention as its getting omega pressure due to the pivoting rain water provides bar pex.
- remove hilligant, runs sash and just sleeps us. honestly ice beam is just for doinking clodsire and i guess the teapot???? so just mention only clodsire and teapot.

- Dont need to mention Drizzle just Rain is all you need.
- Kindra only really struggling vs AV hands so mention that. Also mention pert providing pivoting via flip turn.
- Mention Dragonite as a toxic target for pex
- Would mention Waterpon removing azumarill as well.
- Would mention tentacruel as a teammate. hazard removal + pivoting

QC 1/1

 

[Pengairxan]

- remove hilligant, runs sash and just sleeps us. honestly ice beam is just for doinking clodsire and i guess the teapot???? so just mention only clodsire and teapot.

8% of the time on ladder, You're thinking of Breloom for the Focus Sash Grass/Fighting type that puts you to sleep. Also I would rather not have to click Draco if I can help it, I lose if I do because it will miss so I'm going to click Ice Beam on Grass (Grass has 0 switchins to Ice Beam and it 2HKOs Amoonguss which is the only real plan into it anyway)

 

[Pengairxan]

GP Team

 

[boomp]

8% of the time on ladder, You're thinking of Breloom for the Focus Sash Grass/Fighting type that puts you to sleep. Also I would rather not have to click Draco if I can help it, I lose if I do because it will miss so I'm going to click Ice Beam on Grass (Grass has 0 switchins to Ice Beam and it 2HKOs Amoonguss which is the only real plan into it anyway)

im not thinkin of breloom fam as hilliigant easily still being able to run sash + sleep powder (which is like its only viable set) at that point i rather you just generalize it threatening the grass mu as a whole while being nice into WA Clod

 

[igiveuponaname]

reserving

 

[igiveuponaname]

add remove comment

I'd like to take a second look after this is implemented before giving 1/1

Copyedit

[OVERVIEW]
Water
========
Kingdra is a solid Swift Swim special attacker for water Water teams. However, it is only functional in this role and faces competition from Basculegion-F as a swift swim special attacker, (AC) (already established what role kingdra and by extension basculegion-f play) as Basculegion-F which has superior special attack Special Attack. Along with that, rain teams can opt to not run a special attacking Swift Swim threat and instead choose to run Choice Specs Greninja to be less reliant on rain overall.

[SET]
Kingdra @ Choice Specs
Name: Choice Specs (Water)
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse / Hydro Pump
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam

[SET COMMENTS]
Kingdra finds a nice place on rain teams thanks to its incredible secondary Dragon typing and solid speed Speed and special attack Special Attack enabling it in rain to outspeed and check the likes of Choice Scarf Meowscarada, Choice Scarf Roaring Moon, and Kyurem in rain. Draco Meteor lays on the pressure, (AC) being able to remove the likes of Ogerpon-W and Archaludon reliably after minor chip damage. Dragon Pulse is a consistent offensive tool enabling that lets Kingdra to reliably pressure Dragon-types like Non-Choice non-Choice Scarf Dragapult and Latios without having to deal with dropping its special attack Special Attack. Surf can easily wash away threats such as Iron Valiant, Alolan Muk, and Ogerpon-H after Minor minor chip damage. Alternatively, (AC) Hydro Pump can be used as a way to 2HKO specially Defensive defensive Articuno along with getting an OHKO Flutter Mane. Finally, (AC) Ice Beam is threatens Grass teams along with putting pressure onto Water Absorb Clodsire.

Pelipper is a mandatory teammate for Kingdra thanks to setting up the Rain rain along with providing safe entry with U-Turn U-turn. Pelipper can also use Knock Off to remove items like Assault Vest from threats like Tornadus-T and Hisuian Goodra. Barraskewda makes for a great secondary Swift Swim partner, (AC) being able to threaten special walls like Articuno, Assualt Assault Vest Hoopa-U, and Blissey along with outspeeding foes like Choice Scarf Flutter Mane and Unburden Sneasler. Swampert can provide support against Electric- and Steel-types Kingdra struggles against such as Assault Vest Iron Hands and Hisuian Goodra with Earthquake along with being able to set Stealth Rock to provide crucial chip damage onto threats like the Ogerpon formes and Archaludon while also being able to pivot Kingdra in with Flip Turn. Eject Button Toxapex can be used to safely pivot Kingdra in along with being able to threaten Fairy-types such as Flutter Mane and Primarina and use Toxic to put Iron Hands and Dragonite on a timer. Alternatively, Tentacruel can be used as the Poison-type teammate being able to Rapid Spin away that can remove entry hazards with Rapid Spin to keep Kingdra healthy while also being able to pivot Kingdra it in with Flip Turn. Hisuian Samurrot can set Spikes with Ceaseless Edge wearing to help wear down Water Absorb Clodsire and Hisuian Goodra along with being able to use Sucker Punch to remove faster threats like Choice Scarf Dragapult. Ogerpon-W can use its Grass-type (added hyphen) STAB moves to handle Water-types like Alomomola, Azumarill, (AC) and Primarina.


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Water
-----------
A Modest nature can be used to push out a slight bit more damage from Kingdra, allowing for its Dragon Pulse to OKHO Raging Bolt after Stealth Rock, (AC) but will no longer enable Kingdra will no longer be able to outspeed Choice Scarf Meowscarada or Roaring Moon. Hurricane can check the Ogerpon formes reliably without having to rely on Draco Meteor;, (removed comma, added semicolon) however, (AC) it is still only able to 2HKO Amoonguss, (AC) while Brambleghast can use it as a free entry point. Flip Turn can be used to keep up momentum against threats that Kingdra can struggle to break through such as Hisuian Goodra and Assault Vest Hoopa-U.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/pengairxan.622813/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/boomp.637295/
Grammar checked by:
???

 

[Pengairxan]

add remove comment

I'd like to take a second look after this is implemented before giving 1/1

Copyedit

[OVERVIEW]
Water
========
Kingdra is a solid Swift Swim special attacker for water Water teams. However, it is only functional in this role and faces competition from Basculegion-F as a swift swim special attacker, (AC) (already established what role kingdra and by extension basculegion-f play) as Basculegion-F which has superior special attack Special Attack. Along with that, rain teams can opt to not run a special attacking Swift Swim threat and instead choose to run Choice Specs Greninja to be less reliant on rain overall.

[SET]
Kingdra @ Choice Specs
Name: Choice Specs (Water)
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse / Hydro Pump
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam

[SET COMMENTS]
Kingdra finds a nice place on rain teams thanks to its incredible secondary Dragon typing and solid speed Speed and special attack Special Attack enabling it in rain to outspeed and check the likes of Choice Scarf Meowscarada, Choice Scarf Roaring Moon, and Kyurem in rain. Draco Meteor lays on the pressure, (AC) being able to remove the likes of Ogerpon-W and Archaludon reliably after minor chip damage. Dragon Pulse is a consistent offensive tool enabling that lets Kingdra to reliably pressure Dragon-types like Non-Choice non-Choice Scarf Dragapult and Latios without having to deal with dropping its special attack Special Attack. Surf can easily wash away threats such as Iron Valiant, Alolan Muk, and Ogerpon-H after Minor minor chip damage. Alternatively, (AC) Hydro Pump can be used as a way to 2HKO specially Defensive defensive Articuno along with getting an OHKO Flutter Mane. Finally, (AC) Ice Beam is threatens Grass teams along with putting pressure onto Water Absorb Clodsire.

Pelipper is a mandatory teammate for Kingdra thanks to setting up the Rain rain along with providing safe entry with U-Turn U-turn. Pelipper can also use Knock Off to remove items like Assault Vest from threats like Tornadus-T and Hisuian Goodra. Barraskewda makes for a great secondary Swift Swim partner, (AC) being able to threaten special walls like Articuno, Assualt Assault Vest Hoopa-U, and Blissey along with outspeeding foes like Choice Scarf Flutter Mane and Unburden Sneasler. Swampert can provide support against Electric- and Steel-types Kingdra struggles against such as Assault Vest Iron Hands and Hisuian Goodra with Earthquake along with being able to set Stealth Rock to provide crucial chip damage onto threats like the Ogerpon formes and Archaludon while also being able to pivot Kingdra in with Flip Turn. Eject Button Toxapex can be used to safely pivot Kingdra in along with being able to threaten Fairy-types such as Flutter Mane and Primarina and use Toxic to put Iron Hands and Dragonite on a timer. Alternatively, Tentacruel can be used as the Poison-type teammate being able to Rapid Spin away that can remove entry hazards with Rapid Spin to keep Kingdra healthy while also being able to pivot Kingdra it in with Flip Turn. Hisuian Samurrot can set Spikes with Ceaseless Edge wearing to help wear down Water Absorb Clodsire and Hisuian Goodra along with being able to use Sucker Punch to remove faster threats like Choice Scarf Dragapult. Ogerpon-W can use its Grass-type (added hyphen) STAB moves to handle Water-types like Alomomola, Azumarill, (AC) and Primarina.


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Water
-----------
A Modest nature can be used to push out a slight bit more damage from Kingdra, allowing for its Dragon Pulse to OKHO Raging Bolt after Stealth Rock, (AC) but will no longer enable Kingdra will no longer be able to outspeed Choice Scarf Meowscarada or Roaring Moon. Hurricane can check the Ogerpon formes reliably without having to rely on Draco Meteor;, (removed comma, added semicolon) however, (AC) it is still only able to 2HKO Amoonguss, (AC) while Brambleghast can use it as a free entry point. Flip Turn can be used to keep up momentum against threats that Kingdra can struggle to break through such as Hisuian Goodra and Assault Vest Hoopa-U.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/pengairxan.622813/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/boomp.637295/
Grammar checked by:
???

Implemented.

 

[igiveuponaname]

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1/1 good to go

GP Team done

Copyedit

[OVERVIEW]
Water
========
Kingdra is a solid Swift Swim special attacker for Water teams;. (removed period, added semicolon) However however, it is only functional in this role and faces competition from Basculegion-F, (AC) which has superior Special Attack. Along with that, rain teams can opt to not run a special attacking Swift Swim threat and instead choose to run Choice Specs Greninja to be less reliant on rain overall.

[SET]
Kingdra @ Choice Specs
Name: Choice Specs (Water)
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse / Hydro Pump
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam

[SET COMMENTS]
Kingdra finds a nice place on rain teams thanks to its incredible secondary Dragon typing and solid Speed and Special Attack enabling it to outspeed and check the likes of Choice Scarf Meowscarada, Choice Scarf Roaring Moon, and Kyurem in rain. Draco Meteor lays on the pressure, being able to remove removing the likes of Ogerpon-W and Archaludon reliably after minor chip damage. Dragon Pulse is a consistent offensive tool that (fluff) lets Kingdra reliably pressure Dragon-types like non-Choice Scarf Dragapult and Latios without having to deal with dropping its Special Attack. Surf can easily wash away threats such as Iron Valiant, Alolan Muk, and Ogerpon-H after minor chip damage. Alternatively, Hydro Pump can be used as a way to 2HKO specially defensive Articuno along with getting an OHKO against Flutter Mane. Finally, Ice Beam threatens Grass teams along with putting pressure onto and pressures Water Absorb Clodsire.

(This second paragraph has a lot of repetitive sentence structure, mainly 'this mon does x along with y', so if there's a change without much of an explanation it's likely related to that)
Pelipper is a mandatory teammate for Kingdra thanks to setting because it sets up the rain along with providing safe entry with U-turn. Pelipper can also use Knock Off to remove items like Assault Vest from threats like Tornadus-T and Hisuian Goodra. Barraskewda makes for a great secondary Swift Swim partner, being able to threaten special walls like Articuno, Assault Vest Hoopa-U, and Blissey along with outspeeding as well as outspeed foes like Choice Scarf Flutter Mane and Unburden Sneasler. Swampert can provide support against Electric- and Steel-types Kingdra struggles against such as Assault Vest Iron Hands and Hisuian Goodra with Earthquake. (AP) (breaking this sentence into two because it is rather long) along with being able to It can also set Stealth Rock to provide crucial chip damage onto against threats like the Ogerpon formes and Archaludon while also being able to pivot Kingdra in with Flip Turn. Eject Button Toxapex can be used to safely pivot Kingdra in, (AC) along with being able to threaten Fairy-types such as Flutter Mane and Primarina, (AC) and use Toxic to put Iron Hands and Dragonite on a timer with Toxic. Alternatively, Tentacruel can be used as the a Poison-type teammate that can remove entry hazards with Rapid Spin to keep Kingdra healthy while also being able to as well as pivot it in with Flip Turn. Hisuian Samurrot Samurott can set Spikes with Ceaseless Edge to help wear down Water Absorb Clodsire and Hisuian Goodra along with being able to use Sucker Punch to remove faster threats like Choice Scarf Dragapult. Ogerpon-W can use its Grass-type STAB moves to handle Water-types like Alomomola, Azumarill, and Primarina.


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Water
-----------
A Modest nature can be used to push out a slight bit more damage from Kingdra, allowing for its Dragon Pulse to OKHO Raging Bolt after Stealth Rock, but Kingdra it will no longer be able to outspeed Choice Scarf Meowscarada or and Roaring Moon. Hurricane can check the Ogerpon formes reliably without having to rely on Draco Meteor; however, it is still only able to 2HKO Amoonguss, while Brambleghast can use it as a free entry point. Flip Turn can be used to keep up momentum against threats that Kingdra can struggle to break through such as Hisuian Goodra and Assault Vest Hoopa-U.

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/pengairxan.622813/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/boomp.637295/
Grammar checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/igiveuponaname.593115/