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Pokemon Legends: Z-A Combat/PVP Discussion Thread
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it is very tiny, lot of moves have weird angles and can miss smaller pokemon. alphas are also generally worse for this reason too
yeah I assume Geomancy takes way too long to go off in combination with all the steel types everywhere probably hurts it
death bird might be better than it in this mode
I think Emboar being C makes sense. I think it's good but Recoil as always is feast or famine and its hard to use Emboar when theres Chomps, Drills, and Gyarados everywhere. I've knocked out several Charizards instantly with Head Smash tho which is funny, lol.
Doublade being here is also really funny, Aegislash would probably be really good if it didn't take so long to switch stances.
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Based on the ease of getting off early SD’s and CM’s with plenty of time remaining I doubt that’ll be the issue. More with the steel types. Fortunately I won’t have to wait much to trial it, I leveled my Xerneas and hyper trained it etc purely for the Zygarde battle.
I think swords dance and calm mind are considerably faster than geomancy is, the latter feels like over 2 times as long as calm mind. I guess you could just use calm mind instead lol
I mean, I usually have a ton of spare time cos I’ll target one mon from as far as I can and hold back while they all start until I can come in and attack.
I have to ask, has anyone found a viable or even niche strategy for using Falinks? I feel like it has zero good defensive moves and its coverage options (Megahorn, Iron head, Knock off, Rock Slide) you'd only use against pokemon that absolutely demolish it (psychic types, fairy types, psychic types, flying types). No Retreat is too clunky to use and doesn't last long, is the only way to use it to babysit it with dual screens?
Right now I'm just praying he gets a good ability in base game
Right now I'm just praying he gets a good ability in base game
As if Pokemon EV spreads couldn't get even dumber in the game where everything is dropping speed like its alternator fell out, we have a wild situation going on with Yveltal.
From my current understanding, the damage formula got a pillow thrown at it with a damage reduction multiplier. Outside of that, as far as I'm aware, we're still dealing with the same 15 year old formula we've come to know and low roll.
We've assembled a perfect storm of stupid:
Plug both spreads into a damage calc and you can see why. They take comparable damage percentage wise, the slightest bit 1% more bulk on the HP one, but the amount drained with Oblivion Wing is massive. Since you have lower HP and you're just taking chunks of your opponent's raw HP value (NOT a percentage), you are gaining back a larger percent of your total HP with your dinky EV spread. It's kind of like how Leech Seed Pokemon have occasionally dropped their HP IV to 0 over the years to get bigger percentages of their HP back for easier substitutes.
So hey, if you're planning on Yveltaling next season and want to oblivion wing a bunch, make sure your spread is, uhh, optimal?
From my current understanding, the damage formula got a pillow thrown at it with a damage reduction multiplier. Outside of that, as far as I'm aware, we're still dealing with the same 15 year old formula we've come to know and low roll.
We've assembled a perfect storm of stupid:
- Yveltal is one of the handful of Pokemon out there with HP higher than its defenses, so boosting HP isn't the automatic best mixed bulk investment.
- Yveltal really really likes its draining move oblivion wing
- Speed is seemingly a very minor contributing factor to Pokemon success this stage of play in the metagame (like the actual definition of metagame) and you have little reason to invest in it.
Plug both spreads into a damage calc and you can see why. They take comparable damage percentage wise, the slightest bit 1% more bulk on the HP one, but the amount drained with Oblivion Wing is massive. Since you have lower HP and you're just taking chunks of your opponent's raw HP value (NOT a percentage), you are gaining back a larger percent of your total HP with your dinky EV spread. It's kind of like how Leech Seed Pokemon have occasionally dropped their HP IV to 0 over the years to get bigger percentages of their HP back for easier substitutes.
So hey, if you're planning on Yveltaling next season and want to oblivion wing a bunch, make sure your spread is, uhh, optimal?
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