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Tournaments Rules and General Guidelines


If you have any questions, please feel free to contact either one of the hosts. The reward for winning this tournament is a custom avatar to be used on Pokemon Showdown. Please feel free to use this thread to talk about the tournament to your hearts' desire.

How does ADVPL work?
There will be 8 teams, each with their own manager and assistant manager. Management duos will do a SPL-style auction on Pokemon Showdown!, where they will take turns nominating and bidding in an auction for players who signed up to assemble their teams with limited credits available. The teams will then play one another for 7 weeks, with a new opponent each week. This will culminate with a Playoffs week consisting of the Top 4 teams overall from the 7-week main season.

How does one signup as a player?

Player signups are projected to begin Sunday March 8th and will be open until 24 hours before the auction (see below; about two weeks). You should include your name, timezone, metagames you are willing to play, and any expected inactivity. Do not sign up if you cannot commit to the entire tournament. ADVPL VI is expected to run until the end of May.

If I am selected as a captain, can I still play for my team?

Each team will be allowed to self-purchase one manager for 16k or both for 40k auction credits. Managers must inform the tournament hosts 24 hours before the auction date.

When is the ADVPL VI Auction?

The auction time will be decided by managers soon.

The General Manager of a team is essentially the boss of a team. The GM is the final word in all decisions (barring the hosts) regarding their team. The GM decides which players play on the team, who plays in what position, and even handles the team finances. Managers also make sure that the team keeps running on a day to day basis. If a team fails to complete their matches by the end of the allotted time, the onus is on the manager to inform the hosts as to what happened in order to make sure that proper activity calls are made.

Because of these responsibilities, The General Manager is probably the most important part of the team. As such, the position of GM is not one to be taken lightly.

• General Managers are chosen largely on a subjective opinion of the hosts as well as ADV Moderation Team as to who they believe would be fit for the position. Being fit for the position includes the knowledge of excellent battlers in the community (for fielding a competent team), having above average activity on the forums, Pokémon Showdown and/or Discord (in order to ensure that you don’t abandon your team), as well as possessing a necessary amount of “gravitas” (If you can’t make a player do what you tell them to, such as play an undesirable metagame, you’re not going to make a good manager).

General Managers are required to acquire one Assistant Manager. The General Manager gets full sovereignty in choosing their assistant manager. The assistant manager is essentially the second in command for the team. They have all of the functions and roles as the General Manager does, the GM just trumps them in head-to-head decisions.

Lastly, the General Manager has the following duties:

• They shall choose one Assistant Manager.
• They shall make the hosts aware of any player retentions by the time player signups close.
• They shall be present at the live auction, or appoint someone (the Assistant Manager) to participate in the live auction in their stead.
• They shall send the hosts weekly rosters.
• They shall ensure to the best of their abilities that their battlers complete their matches on time.
• In the event that a match fails to be completed, they shall inform the hosts as to why the match failed to be completed, and what their battler did in order to finish the match.
• They shall communicate any grievances with the hosts.

Total money for teams is 150,000 credits.

In the weeks preceding the Live Auction, a time will be chosen where at least 1 Manager or Assistant Manager from each team can meet and perform a live auction in order to choose players. The Manager and/or Assistant Manager present will be expected to remain at the auction for the entire duration, which should take approximately 3 hours.

Once a time is set, all attending Managers + Hosts will enter the place where the auction will be held - most likely a group chat for the auction. Spectators are allowed to join in to watch the auction, but will not be able to speak. Discussion on the bidding should be relegated to the ADV Discord.

The hosts will first ask a team to nominate a player. The order by which teams will nominate players will go in a randomized snaking pattern from the first chosen team to the last chosen team, then the last chosen team to the first chosen team. Details of said player will be displayed and bidding will commence, starting at 3000 credits, with the nominating team automatically placing the first bid. The auction will then be in real time. Managers will simply put in their bids in the chat, raising a minimum of 500 credits. If after 15 seconds there are no new bids, the player is sold to the highest bid in the channel. Updated credit totals will be displayed and then the next manager in the rotation will be prompted to nominate a player.

Managers: it is necessary for you to field a roster of 12 starters and a minimum of 4 substitutes. Playing Managers and retains are included in the roster number. Players will be locked into playing only the tiers they signed up for the entirety of ADVPL V. This does not apply to tiebreakers or between OU and OU Bo3.

There is no midseason this year. Therefore, it is highly recommended that all teams spend all of their credits in the auction, as there is no use for them afterwards.

The league stages consist of a Round Robin tournament. Every team will face every other team once through 7 weeks of play. Each manager will submit to the hosts a roster no later than the deadline of the previous week. This roster will list the starting players and what metagames they will play.

When the week starts, teams' players will face off in their respective metagames / tiers. The ADV OU 1 from Team A will face the ADV OU 1 from team B, ADV OU 2 will face ADV OU 2, and so on. Whichever team wins the most battles will be declared the victor for the week. Rather than score based on how many individual battles a team wins, the primary thing that matters is who beat the most teams. As such, points are awarded based only on wins and losses versus teams as a whole, not individual players. Beating a team in a week’s matchups is worth two points, tying with a team is worth one point, and losing is worth none, simple as that. At the end of the round robin, the top four teams in the points proceed to the playoffs. Semifinals will see #1 vs. #4 and #2 vs #3, Finals will be the winner from each of the semi-final rounds.

There are a few regulatory things during the league stages that need to be outlined.

1. Substitutes – At any point in time during the week, a team may make a substitution for a currently slotted player. In order to do this a manager must post in the thread, tagging the hosts, the opposing managers and the opposing player stating which player is substituting out, and which player is substituting in. A player that has substituted out for a week cannot be substituted back in. In addition, in order to catch any attempts at garnering favorable matchups in ADV OU/OU Bo3 (where the lineup you choose affects pairings), all substitutions are subject to veto by the hosts if the substitution is suspected to be attempting to “game” the system.

2. Activity decisions – There are inevitably times where two players simply fail to complete a match; however, the nature of the tournament system sometimes makes it advantageous to purposely fail to play (such as when a team is up 5-4 in a week). Because of this, it is necessary to make activity decisions on matches. Hosts are required to make thorough investigations regarding each and every potential failed match during a week. If both parties are deemed to be equally apathetic or enthusiastic about getting the match done, but just have not had the opportunity to make it happen, the match will result in a no contest. However, if it is deemed that one party made significantly more effort than the other in attempting to get the match done, then a win will be awarded to that player. Things that will make it very likely that you will lose via activity include: failing to VM your opponent immediately upon the week’s start, scheduling a match and being documented as missing the match time, failing to provide any concrete times for which you can be reached, failing to respond to an opponent’s VM at all. Note that this is a tournament that requires a very high level of activity and diligence, if you don’t think you can get your matches done, quite simply don’t sign up.

3. Rule Breaking – There is no excuse for breaking any of the predetermined rules. If you are caught breaking a rule, you will lose your match. There is no lenience with regards to this. Break a rule, you lose. Period.

4. Reversing Rulings - No ruling will be retroactively overturned once the week following the week that the ruling has been made has ended. This includes: activity rulings / rulings based on rule breaking / anything else under the sun. I'm not going back in time to reevaluate every single decision I've made throughout the tournament on Week 9 because you think you were robbed 1-2 wins along the way and now they're the difference between you and a playoff spot. Any appeals to a ruling must be made during the week that the ruling is made; beyond that, all rulings are final once the week ends.
 
I have signed up for almost every slot, but I would like to get more involved in ADV LC.

I have a range of LC knowledge, most notably:
  • Winning LCSL with a 4-1 record in BW
  • Going 2-2 in BWPL and 5-3 in BW for LCWC
  • Going far in last year's SM LC Cup to qualify for the Alolan Vulpix suspect test
  • Currently 2-1 in ORAS LC for ORASCL
  • Getting involved in multiple team tours that involve SV LC
With enough prep and resources, I can adapt my skills for ADV.

Message me if you're interested.
 
Hi everyone! :mad:

ADVPL is here, and the Flawless Juggernauts are looking for you!
PM bello figo on Smogon or Discord (@bellofigo4k) with:
- only a small background about you and your motivation going into the tour
- ladder and especially tournaments achievements
- replays
- your preferred tier
- most importantly, favorite drink

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Feel free to dm us replays, tours standings, ladder peaks or why we should pick you. Pm us here or on discord ( girlsdodrugs or lhions ). We will NOT be doing tryout games, but there will be an insanely low chance that we ask if you can do one if we deem fit.
 
Hi everyone! :mad:

ADVPL is here, and the Flawless Juggernauts are looking for you!
PM bello figo on Smogon or Discord (@bellofigo4k) with:
- only a small background about you and your motivation going into the tour
- ladder and especially tournaments achievements
- replays
- your preferred tier
- most importantly, favorite drink

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I ain't even here to glaze but I gotta give my props to bello figgo. Guy gets a ton of women, plays mons, and is physically capable to a degree that I could only dream of. He's probably got a super big business too that doesn't do evil shit. He's probably got the rest of his life sorted out. Shit I should know this I'm basically his teammate right now.

GOOD SHIT JUGGERNAUTS
 
Hello folk,

I will not play the first 2 weeks if I am selected. I will still support during this period.

To the many managers who were going to break their bank on FJ2K, please take this into consideration.

I have no clue how to edit my signup post to reflect this, mods save me..
 
hello, just posting to say that despite locking out of OU, i have pretty limited knowledge of adv lower tiers. to any manager looking at me as a potential option at the auction, please make sure you have support for whatever tier you want me to play somewhere on the team. i'll be active and take the time to learn the tier i'm put in, but don't expect me to be self-sufficient just yet.
 
Making a quick ADV LC list of people I recommend to draft in specific selections, so you, the mananger doesn't need to take excessive research and be worried about how the players are from playing, building, personality, and needs. This will be with bias in mind, so any players that doesn't feel like they deserve it or aren't mentioned, let me know in Discord vs. LC, ADV LC, or ADV servers. I'll not be long with this, but I'll be straightforward and a little blunt in my description. I will also not include myself in the ranking. At this point, you should know who I am; if not, that's on you.

Those who are excluded from the list
Shing
Evakiyama (Manager and plays OU, most likely)

Player + Builder list
Shreyasshy - One of the few who has actively been building since the post Diglett, and who I consider to be furthest at the meta in here. His building and prep has its double-edged sword as he prefers to progress to be as advantageous as possible, but it has a lack of defensive measures. Effective teams that piece well together, but takes his risk on matchups that could do a hard reversal. Regardless, a lot of the new ideas I'm finding are something Shrey has done months ago, so you bet he's currently the best builder imo. His results speak for themselves by winning a lot and feeling dominant.
Rineko - Hasn't been getting much opportunity to touch the tier, but I'd still consider her knowledge, sense-ness, and flexibility in teams to be some of the best the tier has to offer, for herself and other players. Her lack of time on touching the current meta holds her back from truly being at the best, but she clearly deserves to be at the top, no discussion. Her player has things to be desired, but I think with the current signup, she's capable of ending up positive here.
Celdanami - Some of the most senseful builds out here, and I approve his stuff. He suffers somewhat the way Shrey has when taking in defensive measurements, but his team feels more solidly structured when things fall together. He has a bit of a problem managing quality and flexibility in building. If he builds with unnom/lower-ranked mons, the structure of those teams feels like he struggles to gain quality control of the building, while when he's bringing standardized, it has a good set of patterns. As a player, he's not at the top of the top, but is very capable of making upsets against everyone based on ADVLTL, and our friendlies sesh. He does have a risk of leaving/inactivity out of nowhere because of prioritizing IRL, as far as I know, which has put him in some dicey tour bans. But overall, actually keeps up to the meta and I respect that aspect a ton.
Alder ST - Top player and builder that only lacks experience and time on this current meta due to irl stuff. Probably the best player, skills-wise.
But his building works mainly for him, and he prolly need more time to feel like he's in complete control.
BlackKnight_Gawain - Is capable of playing and building for himself in this tier and beating everyone here, but needs a lot of quality checks on his building because he has no control over balancing on niche stuff and making it as solid as possible. Him as a player, is pretty high actually, but he makes some questionable decisions, which is mainly because of his overthinking and self-hesitation at times. I think Gawain may play other tiers due to touch of lower tiers, but he's someone who clearly has potential to be the best player in here, but has these awkward hurdles that keep him back from getting a victory. Have more senseful and bulletproof builds and don't make sets with niche tricks that has drawback. None of that exegg set you brought vs me in LCPL, and you'll be good, ok? Just have a similar mindset like Shrey and celdanami and I think you'll cook here.
PoseidonWrath - Solid and senseful-ness whenever he's building and playing. He just lacks the oppressive/innovative aspect to truly fuck up someone in a matchup. Add more unfair, oppressive, and stronger ways to push your advantage in the building, and you'll do very well. Sometimes, trying to build things as "bulletproof" and trying lesser-known stuff if you lack an offensive wincon vs the opposing opponent in a destructive way, like CM Abra sets, Anorith, etc.
Akeras - He's been here in and out since I joined ADV LC. I think he's a better builder than a player, but I think he's capable to win vs some people if he's capable of making the plays. It's just that he lacks awareness and is a bit behind in skill, so that makes it tricky to make him a starter. Either way, he's a valuable player, and I find his teams to be on par with the top as long as he doesn't try to build with unmon and stay true and steady ranked mons lol.
Zcarlett - Find it hard to rank her because while she's capable of winning against everyone here, her player and building are a bit controversial for me. She's a very mood-dependent player, so she could make the most questionable or stubborn plays out of nowhere, and her building isn't bad, but goddamn, they're something. I think it's such a noob killer that it gives me the impression that it's the norm(sub toxic gaming moment). I do think her building sense is there, and a lot of tour players can use her teams; it's just that her teams like to abuse narrow-minded game sequences, even if those sets have noticeable holes. Otherwise, she's pretty good and should not be joked with.
Termnal - Has a bit of a one-dimensional approach in everything, but otherwise capable builder and player, and those weaknesses can be improved if Termnal tries to approach the game as less DPP LC-like.


Other players that I don't have full info on that may fit above are...
Quarante8 - Did take wins in ADVPL, and got pretty far in ADV LC: Lead me Baby tournament, but I'm not sure if he builds all the teams he shows. As a player, fundamentally good in mons, but awareness and knowledge level are a big hole in his game, which makes his teams/plays have a lot of questions, mainly because he doesn't have the top of the top. But with the right guidance, he can quickly improve to end up positive.
RoyalReloaded - Been playing ADV LC on and off, and can make upsets, but I think they're a 3k sub for circumstances because they're just a bit too wildcard for me. Probably can beat me, but also has these games where he's been the worst player since he's getting a bit too carried by the team's flowchart. Maybe better in other lc tiers...?
Fernanch - Has touched and can play the tier on its own, but needs to improve if he wants to make an upset and get the right sequences. At best, a good 3k sub type of player.
Players that doesn't build
Feen - Has the consistency to beat anyone result-wise. Still think ADV LC is a bit awkward tier for them to maneuver around due to some of their questionable plays, but will generally provide the wins. Recommended builders to showcase the best of him are: Rineko, Celdnanami, Evaki, Shing, and maybe Shrey...?
Hacker - To make it triple sure to any manager that's reading here, Hacker can arguably beat everyone, but you need to have the support that aligns with him. The biggest reason why he lost hard last year was because of the iffy support, as he's not typically playing ADV LC, despite his TL. If you give him support that doesn't match his standard, then you, the mananger is the fault, not him. Probably give him me, evakiyami or Rineko, and he will deliver. Obviously, I am making a claim since he doesn't touch adv lc that much, but give him the right guidance, like informing him on how the meta works, and the right teams, I think he's at the top.
Colin - Signed up for OU since he's more interested, but obviously capable to pivot and beating anyone here with the right team n support. You just need to give him the right teams, and he will provide.
genisu - Very impressive player. The only thing that holds him back is a lack of knowledge of the current tier, and somewhat the mechanics of ADV. He's capable of making plays, pivoting the game, and showing me he adapts and improves fast enough that his awareness can make him upset people here.
Incognition - If he's motivated enough and willing to expand his knowledge to improve his awareness, he can beat a lot of people here. He should have beaten me if he just didn't lack the awareness, or felt pressured bc he was playing vs me. Otherwise, a 3k or last resort pick if you can't get the others.

Other ones I could mention, but lack enough judgement to explain them: Souji/Akumu, Kingler, Baddy, Fragments

Personal ranking if I had to judge from the info above + my own bias.
1. Shreyasshy
2. Alder ST
3. Colin w/ Shing, Evakiyama, Rineko, Celdanami, Shrey support
4. Hacker w/ Shing, Evakiyama, Rineko or Celdanami(when building good mons only) support
5. Celdanami
6. Feen w/ Rineko, Evakiyama or Akeras support
7. PoseidonWrath
8. Gawain (Gawain w me would lowkey be broken ;))
9. Rineko in current state(if improved awareness and decision making, above Celdanami)
10. Zcarlett
11. Genisu with the right support
12. Termnal
13. Akeras
14. Quarante4
15. Incognition
Everyone else

Notes: Hacker and Colin, with weak support puts them around Gawain's level. All tour players w/ no building are bottom unless you get some behind-the-scenes building quality teams for them lol. The skill gap is closer than you think in the list compared to last year, only some are better vs others due to the player-matchups. I didn't rank Tack because my bias and uncertainty are too big, but if you want my view, they're extremely high on building and playing, but mainly if they play for themself simple said.

Take this post with a grain of salt, though, and understand lot of my takes are biased. I was just bored enough to create the list with lots of hypotheses. The tier can have massive gaps, my takes may be a bit too biased and inaccurate, but yh up to you what you want to make out of the takes.

Also, I'll play and sign up soon, but I've been just occupied with other tours an irl, and I'll suffer from some exam activities like last year(If you want to know when, either you'll get it when I join in your team or just dm me lol). So if you want me to play on your team, I want to have another strong player along with me. Anyone can work as long as they're willing to be tutored-ish or show some improvement, but I'd have a preference for Hacker, Gawain, Kingler, and accept everyone at 10-15 :). As long as the player can pivot and make plays, I'll make them end up positive or tied at least. I really liked how I did with Colin last year, so I've proven my argument on that. Good luck to everyone that's drafted on this week <3
 
Making a quick ADV LC list of people I recommend to draft in specific selections, so you, the mananger doesn't need to take excessive research and be worried about how the players are from playing, building, personality, and needs. This will be with bias in mind, so any players that doesn't feel like they deserve it or aren't mentioned, let me know in Discord vs. LC, ADV LC, or ADV servers. I'll not be long with this, but I'll be straightforward and a little blunt in my description. I will also not include myself in the ranking. At this point, you should know who I am; if not, that's on you.

Those who are excluded from the list
Shing
Evakiyama (Manager and plays OU, most likely)

Player + Builder list
Shreyasshy - One of the few who has actively been building since the post Diglett, and who I consider to be furthest at the meta in here. His building and prep has its double-edged sword as he prefers to progress to be as advantageous as possible, but it has a lack of defensive measures. Effective teams that piece well together, but takes his risk on matchups that could do a hard reversal. Regardless, a lot of the new ideas I'm finding are something Shrey has done months ago, so you bet he's currently the best builder imo. His results speak for themselves by winning a lot and feeling dominant.
Rineko - Hasn't been getting much opportunity to touch the tier, but I'd still consider her knowledge, sense-ness, and flexibility in teams to be some of the best the tier has to offer, for herself and other players. Her lack of time on touching the current meta holds her back from truly being at the best, but she clearly deserves to be at the top, no discussion. Her player has things to be desired, but I think with the current signup, she's capable of ending up positive here.
Celdanami - Some of the most senseful builds out here, and I approve his stuff. He suffers somewhat the way Shrey has when taking in defensive measurements, but his team feels more solidly structured when things fall together. He has a bit of a problem managing quality and flexibility in building. If he builds with unnom/lower-ranked mons, the structure of those teams feels like he struggles to gain quality control of the building, while when he's bringing standardized, it has a good set of patterns. As a player, he's not at the top of the top, but is very capable of making upsets against everyone based on ADVLTL, and our friendlies sesh. He does have a risk of leaving/inactivity out of nowhere because of prioritizing IRL, as far as I know, which has put him in some dicey tour bans. But overall, actually keeps up to the meta and I respect that aspect a ton.
Alder ST - Top player and builder that only lacks experience and time on this current meta due to irl stuff. Probably the best player, skills-wise.
But his building works mainly for him, and he prolly need more time to feel like he's in complete control.
BlackKnight_Gawain - Is capable of playing and building for himself in this tier and beating everyone here, but needs a lot of quality checks on his building because he has no control over balancing on niche stuff and making it as solid as possible. Him as a player, is pretty high actually, but he makes some questionable decisions, which is mainly because of his overthinking and self-hesitation at times. I think Gawain may play other tiers due to touch of lower tiers, but he's someone who clearly has potential to be the best player in here, but has these awkward hurdles that keep him back from getting a victory. Have more senseful and bulletproof builds and don't make sets with niche tricks that has drawback. None of that exegg set you brought vs me in LCPL, and you'll be good, ok? Just have a similar mindset like Shrey and celdanami and I think you'll cook here.
PoseidonWrath - Solid and senseful-ness whenever he's building and playing. He just lacks the oppressive/innovative aspect to truly fuck up someone in a matchup. Add more unfair, oppressive, and stronger ways to push your advantage in the building, and you'll do very well. Sometimes, trying to build things as "bulletproof" and trying lesser-known stuff if you lack an offensive wincon vs the opposing opponent in a destructive way, like CM Abra sets, Anorith, etc.
Akeras - He's been here in and out since I joined ADV LC. I think he's a better builder than a player, but I think he's capable to win vs some people if he's capable of making the plays. It's just that he lacks awareness and is a bit behind in skill, so that makes it tricky to make him a starter. Either way, he's a valuable player, and I find his teams to be on par with the top as long as he doesn't try to build with unmon and stay true and steady ranked mons lol.
Zcarlett - Find it hard to rank her because while she's capable of winning against everyone here, her player and building are a bit controversial for me. She's a very mood-dependent player, so she could make the most questionable or stubborn plays out of nowhere, and her building isn't bad, but goddamn, they're something. I think it's such a noob killer that it gives me the impression that it's the norm(sub toxic gaming moment). I do think her building sense is there, and a lot of tour players can use her teams; it's just that her teams like to abuse narrow-minded game sequences, even if those sets have noticeable holes. Otherwise, she's pretty good and should not be joked with.
Termnal - Has a bit of a one-dimensional approach in everything, but otherwise capable builder and player, and those weaknesses can be improved if Termnal tries to approach the game as less DPP LC-like.


Other players that I don't have full info on that may fit above are...
Quarante8 - Did take wins in ADVPL, and got pretty far in ADV LC: Lead me Baby tournament, but I'm not sure if he builds all the teams he shows. As a player, fundamentally good in mons, but awareness and knowledge level are a big hole in his game, which makes his teams/plays have a lot of questions, mainly because he doesn't have the top of the top. But with the right guidance, he can quickly improve to end up positive.
RoyalReloaded - Been playing ADV LC on and off, and can make upsets, but I think they're a 3k sub for circumstances because they're just a bit too wildcard for me. Probably can beat me, but also has these games where he's been the worst player since he's getting a bit too carried by the team's flowchart. Maybe better in other lc tiers...?
Fernanch - Has touched and can play the tier on its own, but needs to improve if he wants to make an upset and get the right sequences. At best, a good 3k sub type of player.
Players that doesn't build
Feen - Has the consistency to beat anyone result-wise. Still think ADV LC is a bit awkward tier for them to maneuver around due to some of their questionable plays, but will generally provide the wins. Recommended builders to showcase the best of him are: Rineko, Celdnanami, Evaki, Shing, and maybe Shrey...?
Hacker - To make it triple sure to any manager that's reading here, Hacker can arguably beat everyone, but you need to have the support that aligns with him. The biggest reason why he lost hard last year was because of the iffy support, as he's not typically playing ADV LC, despite his TL. If you give him support that doesn't match his standard, then you, the mananger is the fault, not him. Probably give him me, evakiyami or Rineko, and he will deliver. Obviously, I am making a claim since he doesn't touch adv lc that much, but give him the right guidance, like informing him on how the meta works, and the right teams, I think he's at the top.
Colin - Signed up for OU since he's more interested, but obviously capable to pivot and beating anyone here with the right team n support. You just need to give him the right teams, and he will provide.
genisu - Very impressive player. The only thing that holds him back is a lack of knowledge of the current tier, and somewhat the mechanics of ADV. He's capable of making plays, pivoting the game, and showing me he adapts and improves fast enough that his awareness can make him upset people here.
Incognition - If he's motivated enough and willing to expand his knowledge to improve his awareness, he can beat a lot of people here. He should have beaten me if he just didn't lack the awareness, or felt pressured bc he was playing vs me. Otherwise, a 3k or last resort pick if you can't get the others.

Other ones I could mention, but lack enough judgement to explain them: Souji/Akumu, Kingler, Baddy, Fragments

Personal ranking if I had to judge from the info above + my own bias.
1. Shreyasshy
2. Alder ST
3. Colin w/ Shing, Evakiyama, Rineko, Celdanami, Shrey support
4. Hacker w/ Shing, Evakiyama, Rineko or Celdanami(when building good mons only) support
5. Celdanami
6. Feen w/ Rineko, Evakiyama or Akeras support
7. PoseidonWrath
8. Gawain (Gawain w me would lowkey be broken ;))
9. Rineko in current state(if improved awareness and decision making, above Celdanami)
10. Zcarlett
11. Genisu with the right support
12. Termnal
13. Akeras
14. Quarante4
15. Incognition
Everyone else

Notes: Hacker and Colin, with weak support puts them around Gawain's level. All tour players w/ no building are bottom unless you get some behind-the-scenes building quality teams for them lol. The skill gap is closer than you think in the list compared to last year, only some are better vs others due to the player-matchups. I didn't rank Tack because my bias and uncertainty are too big, but if you want my view, they're extremely high on building and playing, but mainly if they play for themself simple said.

Take this post with a grain of salt, though, and understand lot of my takes are biased. I was just bored enough to create the list with lots of hypotheses. The tier can have massive gaps, my takes may be a bit too biased and inaccurate, but yh up to you what you want to make out of the takes.

Also, I'll play and sign up soon, but I've been just occupied with other tours an irl, and I'll suffer from some exam activities like last year(If you want to know when, either you'll get it when I join in your team or just dm me lol). So if you want me to play on your team, I want to have another strong player along with me. Anyone can work as long as they're willing to be tutored-ish or show some improvement, but I'd have a preference for Hacker, Gawain, Kingler, and accept everyone at 10-15 :). As long as the player can pivot and make plays, I'll make them end up positive or tied at least. I really liked how I did with Colin last year, so I've proven my argument on that. Good luck to everyone that's drafted on this week <3
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Making a quick ADV LC list of people I recommend to draft in specific selections, so you, the mananger doesn't need to take excessive research and be worried about how the players are from playing, building, personality, and needs. This will be with bias in mind, so any players that doesn't feel like they deserve it or aren't mentioned, let me know in Discord vs. LC, ADV LC, or ADV servers. I'll not be long with this, but I'll be straightforward and a little blunt in my description. I will also not include myself in the ranking. At this point, you should know who I am; if not, that's on you.

Those who are excluded from the list
Shing
Evakiyama (Manager and plays OU, most likely)

Player + Builder list
Shreyasshy - One of the few who has actively been building since the post Diglett, and who I consider to be furthest at the meta in here. His building and prep has its double-edged sword as he prefers to progress to be as advantageous as possible, but it has a lack of defensive measures. Effective teams that piece well together, but takes his risk on matchups that could do a hard reversal. Regardless, a lot of the new ideas I'm finding are something Shrey has done months ago, so you bet he's currently the best builder imo. His results speak for themselves by winning a lot and feeling dominant.
Rineko - Hasn't been getting much opportunity to touch the tier, but I'd still consider her knowledge, sense-ness, and flexibility in teams to be some of the best the tier has to offer, for herself and other players. Her lack of time on touching the current meta holds her back from truly being at the best, but she clearly deserves to be at the top, no discussion. Her player has things to be desired, but I think with the current signup, she's capable of ending up positive here.
Celdanami - Some of the most senseful builds out here, and I approve his stuff. He suffers somewhat the way Shrey has when taking in defensive measurements, but his team feels more solidly structured when things fall together. He has a bit of a problem managing quality and flexibility in building. If he builds with unnom/lower-ranked mons, the structure of those teams feels like he struggles to gain quality control of the building, while when he's bringing standardized, it has a good set of patterns. As a player, he's not at the top of the top, but is very capable of making upsets against everyone based on ADVLTL, and our friendlies sesh. He does have a risk of leaving/inactivity out of nowhere because of prioritizing IRL, as far as I know, which has put him in some dicey tour bans. But overall, actually keeps up to the meta and I respect that aspect a ton.
Alder ST - Top player and builder that only lacks experience and time on this current meta due to irl stuff. Probably the best player, skills-wise.
But his building works mainly for him, and he prolly need more time to feel like he's in complete control.
BlackKnight_Gawain - Is capable of playing and building for himself in this tier and beating everyone here, but needs a lot of quality checks on his building because he has no control over balancing on niche stuff and making it as solid as possible. Him as a player, is pretty high actually, but he makes some questionable decisions, which is mainly because of his overthinking and self-hesitation at times. I think Gawain may play other tiers due to touch of lower tiers, but he's someone who clearly has potential to be the best player in here, but has these awkward hurdles that keep him back from getting a victory. Have more senseful and bulletproof builds and don't make sets with niche tricks that has drawback. None of that exegg set you brought vs me in LCPL, and you'll be good, ok? Just have a similar mindset like Shrey and celdanami and I think you'll cook here.
PoseidonWrath - Solid and senseful-ness whenever he's building and playing. He just lacks the oppressive/innovative aspect to truly fuck up someone in a matchup. Add more unfair, oppressive, and stronger ways to push your advantage in the building, and you'll do very well. Sometimes, trying to build things as "bulletproof" and trying lesser-known stuff if you lack an offensive wincon vs the opposing opponent in a destructive way, like CM Abra sets, Anorith, etc.
Akeras - He's been here in and out since I joined ADV LC. I think he's a better builder than a player, but I think he's capable to win vs some people if he's capable of making the plays. It's just that he lacks awareness and is a bit behind in skill, so that makes it tricky to make him a starter. Either way, he's a valuable player, and I find his teams to be on par with the top as long as he doesn't try to build with unmon and stay true and steady ranked mons lol.
Zcarlett - Find it hard to rank her because while she's capable of winning against everyone here, her player and building are a bit controversial for me. She's a very mood-dependent player, so she could make the most questionable or stubborn plays out of nowhere, and her building isn't bad, but goddamn, they're something. I think it's such a noob killer that it gives me the impression that it's the norm(sub toxic gaming moment). I do think her building sense is there, and a lot of tour players can use her teams; it's just that her teams like to abuse narrow-minded game sequences, even if those sets have noticeable holes. Otherwise, she's pretty good and should not be joked with.
Termnal - Has a bit of a one-dimensional approach in everything, but otherwise capable builder and player, and those weaknesses can be improved if Termnal tries to approach the game as less DPP LC-like.


Other players that I don't have full info on that may fit above are...
Quarante8 - Did take wins in ADVPL, and got pretty far in ADV LC: Lead me Baby tournament, but I'm not sure if he builds all the teams he shows. As a player, fundamentally good in mons, but awareness and knowledge level are a big hole in his game, which makes his teams/plays have a lot of questions, mainly because he doesn't have the top of the top. But with the right guidance, he can quickly improve to end up positive.
RoyalReloaded - Been playing ADV LC on and off, and can make upsets, but I think they're a 3k sub for circumstances because they're just a bit too wildcard for me. Probably can beat me, but also has these games where he's been the worst player since he's getting a bit too carried by the team's flowchart. Maybe better in other lc tiers...?
Fernanch - Has touched and can play the tier on its own, but needs to improve if he wants to make an upset and get the right sequences. At best, a good 3k sub type of player.
Players that doesn't build
Feen - Has the consistency to beat anyone result-wise. Still think ADV LC is a bit awkward tier for them to maneuver around due to some of their questionable plays, but will generally provide the wins. Recommended builders to showcase the best of him are: Rineko, Celdnanami, Evaki, Shing, and maybe Shrey...?
Hacker - To make it triple sure to any manager that's reading here, Hacker can arguably beat everyone, but you need to have the support that aligns with him. The biggest reason why he lost hard last year was because of the iffy support, as he's not typically playing ADV LC, despite his TL. If you give him support that doesn't match his standard, then you, the mananger is the fault, not him. Probably give him me, evakiyami or Rineko, and he will deliver. Obviously, I am making a claim since he doesn't touch adv lc that much, but give him the right guidance, like informing him on how the meta works, and the right teams, I think he's at the top.
Colin - Signed up for OU since he's more interested, but obviously capable to pivot and beating anyone here with the right team n support. You just need to give him the right teams, and he will provide.
genisu - Very impressive player. The only thing that holds him back is a lack of knowledge of the current tier, and somewhat the mechanics of ADV. He's capable of making plays, pivoting the game, and showing me he adapts and improves fast enough that his awareness can make him upset people here.
Incognition - If he's motivated enough and willing to expand his knowledge to improve his awareness, he can beat a lot of people here. He should have beaten me if he just didn't lack the awareness, or felt pressured bc he was playing vs me. Otherwise, a 3k or last resort pick if you can't get the others.

Other ones I could mention, but lack enough judgement to explain them: Souji/Akumu, Kingler, Baddy, Fragments

Personal ranking if I had to judge from the info above + my own bias.
1. Shreyasshy
2. Alder ST
3. Colin w/ Shing, Evakiyama, Rineko, Celdanami, Shrey support
4. Hacker w/ Shing, Evakiyama, Rineko or Celdanami(when building good mons only) support
5. Celdanami
6. Feen w/ Rineko, Evakiyama or Akeras support
7. PoseidonWrath
8. Gawain (Gawain w me would lowkey be broken ;))
9. Rineko in current state(if improved awareness and decision making, above Celdanami)
10. Zcarlett
11. Genisu with the right support
12. Termnal
13. Akeras
14. Quarante4
15. Incognition
Everyone else

Notes: Hacker and Colin, with weak support puts them around Gawain's level. All tour players w/ no building are bottom unless you get some behind-the-scenes building quality teams for them lol. The skill gap is closer than you think in the list compared to last year, only some are better vs others due to the player-matchups. I didn't rank Tack because my bias and uncertainty are too big, but if you want my view, they're extremely high on building and playing, but mainly if they play for themself simple said.

Take this post with a grain of salt, though, and understand lot of my takes are biased. I was just bored enough to create the list with lots of hypotheses. The tier can have massive gaps, my takes may be a bit too biased and inaccurate, but yh up to you what you want to make out of the takes.

Also, I'll play and sign up soon, but I've been just occupied with other tours an irl, and I'll suffer from some exam activities like last year(If you want to know when, either you'll get it when I join in your team or just dm me lol). So if you want me to play on your team, I want to have another strong player along with me. Anyone can work as long as they're willing to be tutored-ish or show some improvement, but I'd have a preference for Hacker, Gawain, Kingler, and accept everyone at 10-15 :). As long as the player can pivot and make plays, I'll make them end up positive or tied at least. I really liked how I did with Colin last year, so I've proven my argument on that. Good luck to everyone that's drafted on this week <3
I am honoured to make your list - honestly I agree, I think I just need that support and meta knowledge, also make sure I don't overestimate/underestimate my opponent since that tends to happen.
 
Hello i would like to play ultra lower tiers. Ive been learning more fundamentals of ev gens lately (am an rby guy) and really like them and am willing to put in as much effort as i can to play the game and prep :3
 
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