NOC Electoral Mafia - Game thread

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AngryPidgeon said:
Welcome! First time on smogon or first time ever?
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Heya! First time on Smogon. I've played some on a german forum and some werewolf irl, but that's it, and from a glance both were very culturally different (the germans love to write novels on forums and dont play with any investigating roles irl) and this is my first time playing the game in english (im not native in english, though i think that won't be too much of an issue)

Peum said:
the mafia night kill action actually revolves around having to vote whoever you want to kill...

##Vote: realiti
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That's an interesting assumption, so of course you'd want to throw your hat in the ring and vote as soon as possible for the sake of your NK? Good thinking.

##vote: Peum
 
Miyami~~~ said:
if it really is "mafia can only night kill people who get votes in the day" it'd probably be for the best if we limited our votes instead of voting willy-nilly day 1, right?
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Well personally I have no idea how the mafia kills, I and I assume everyone else is just guessing. unless this is actually you telling us how you and your scum buddies need us to play
 
But yeah, as far as I know right know there seems to be a heavy emphasis on votes having another effect than just the day kill. Maybe maf need to stack X votes on someone and then they can kill at them at night idk
 
its surely not a setup that both doesnt have scumchat and allows the vote wagonomics to discover every single mafia member (which would be the result of death = mafia vote majority or similar structures
 
Miyami~~~ said:
if it really is "mafia can only night kill people who get votes in the day" it'd probably be for the best if we limited our votes instead of voting willy-nilly day 1, right?
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I agree with this sentiment anyway, but I think you may be onto something here. Either that or the exact opposite where only clean players can get killed. Though if everyone gets a vote then mafia couldn’t NK so probably more likely to be what you said

Don’t listen to jalmont I don’t want to mass claim lol
 
phoopes said:
I agree with this sentiment anyway, but I think you may be onto something here. Either that or the exact opposite where only clean players can get killed. Though if everyone gets a vote then mafia couldn’t NK so probably more likely to be what you said

Don’t listen to jalmont I don’t want to mass claim lol
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With how my role is worded I feel like it's kind of a if you get enough votes on you during the day you can then get killed at night or something like that
 
AngryPidgeon said:
"The mafia's night kill action is non-standard; it revolves around the voting system."

I assume this means mafia get extra votes or some form of vote manipulation, so strap in cause this is going to be a game full of wacky hijinx. If I were maf, I would hate not having an NK. Also tbh I feel like a lot of NOCs have been nightless or 'nightless' lately. Of course maybe there is some sort of NK, the rules are kind of vague about it. I guess it wouldn't be too surprising if its like a Mafia Vengeful situation since getting voted would "revolve around the voting system".


I actually really like that idea as GM. But that would also imply that mafia don't have any chat because then they'd just agree who to kill before voting. So I find that unlikely.
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There's this cool role in the showdown mafia room:
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And another one:
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Corrupt queen's King is publicly announced (but not per se that it was caused by a corrupt queen, nor that they will die) and Panther isn't announced at all (which can lead to weird shenanigans where you can figure out a Panther is in play if the end of day deaths dont add up with the votecount)

I imagine something like that is kind of plausible but, like i said, speculating about it now mightn ot gain us a lot of ground
 
AngryPidgeon said:
Ya, its hard to say. Personally makes me think it has to do with vote manipulation. We really won't know for sure until later on. All I can say definitively is that 4:10 is more mafia than normal so it seems it will be limited in some way or another. Its still a good conversation starter so I like to see everyone speculate.
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I do agree that the alignment ratio seems off, so there's probably a reason for that. Kind of makes me think we won't see an immediate kill night 1

Also i realise i'm going against my own advice of not speculating about it but the person i quoted is right that it's a good way to get the ball rolling
 
jalmont said:
I assume it's probably like they can only kill between x people based on how votes were distributed.

I don't really see why we should be worrying too much about that anyways. Who wants to mass claim?
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Massclaiming doesn't do a lot for us at all
It's a CS, so maf can basically just make up any role they want and claim it and we wouldn't be able to know if it was real without trying to speculate on what the host might or might not do (which is angleshooting territory, IMO)
 
Nah they def have a nightkill.

Anyways I voted for whatever the invest has for their role but in a 10v4 (3 cycles worst case scenario) blind voting will just lose us the game 80% of the time, so basically we're desperate for invest results and I would even say that no vote is ideal for d1
 
Voting for invest reasons as well, other than that I doubt they'd let us be able to figure out the mafia mechanic through roles in the mafia room or past games. This is a classic case of fuck around and find out

##Vote: Dead by Daylight
 
Tsuki said:
Also can someone give me a list of must-know abbreviations for this game lmao? Feeling kinda lost

I figured out what NK and NKA are, but CS above is stumping me, I would appreciate it
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CS = Closed setup
Can i ask what you mean by "voting for invest"? As far as i can remember no one claimed any role, and N0 investigatives aren't very common anyway
 
Tsuki said:
Also can someone give me a list of must-know abbreviations for this game lmao? Feeling kinda lost

I figured out what NK and NKA are, but CS above is stumping me, I would appreciate it
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WIFOM = wine in front of me = circular logic that is impossible to gain real information from (example: they could have doing X because of Y which is towny, but that's what they want us to think so it's scummy, etc. which leads to a dead end))
OMGUS = oh my god you suck = scumreading or voting someone because they are bad and scumread you
CFD = chinese fire drill = rapidly change votes at the deadline leading to chaos
angleshooting = making a read or gaining information from out of thread circumstances, often in bad spirit (example: Player X is ghosting the thread but was last seem "engaged in conversation" 3 minutes ago, so they might be typing to their scum team)
AtE = appeal to emotion = trying to emotionally manipulate somebody to do something favorable for you
bussing = mafia teammate scumreads/votes another teammate to "distance" and look like they aren't a team
ISO = in search of = looking at all the posts of a certain player (example: Player X's ISO shows that in 20 posts they haven't had game relevant talk)
tunnel = strongly push an agenda, so hard that you lose focus of facts and reality
UTR = under the radar
hammer = majority of votes on one player = end of day, that person is voted off
AI/NAI = (non) alignment indicative (example: his post is AI because he was very defensive and he is normally not defensive as town, OR his post is NAI because he is defensive as both town and mafia so it doesn't give us info)
tinfoil = focusing too much on the "what-ifs" rather than what is most likely
 
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