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Azacin

After failing miserably at an Uber Sun team, I went back to OU.

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Iron Man @ Heat Rock
252 HP / 152 Atk / 8 Def / 96 SpD
Relaxed
Ablilty: Levitate

Grass Knot
Reflect
Sunny Day
Gyro Ball

My lead. Useful for killing off TTar/Hippowdon and starting the Sun.
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Corona @ Heat Rock
96 HP/252 SpA/160 Spe
Modest
Ablilty: Levitate

Moonlight
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave
Sunny Day

A sturdy tank, brings out the sun, which boost moonlight's effects. Can take a hit, and so has sunny day.

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Exeggutor @ Choice Specs
252 SpA / 252 Spe/ 4 Spe
Modest
Ablilty: Clorophyll

Psychic
Leaf Storm
Hidden Power Fire/Sludge Bomb
Explosion

SpecsEgg, uses HP [fire] which is powered up by the sun, and can also manage to counter Suicune if it has low enough SpD or can use Explosion. Sludge Bomb if I can't get HP Fire.
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Phoenix @ Expert Belt
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid
Ablilty: Pressure

Flamethrower
Solarbeam
Agility
Morning Sun/Roost

Sunny Day Moltres, Aglilities, then Spams away with Overheat/Solarbeam. Morning Sun heals him when he's tired, although I might use Roost if I can't get it. No Hidden Power since it's hard to get.
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Serebii @ Leftovers
252 HP / 80 Def / 176 Spe
Bold
Ability: Natural Cure

Calm Mind
Baton Pass
Heal Bell/Hidden Power [fire]
Recover

CMPass Celebi, the only thing i'm debating is if I should pack Heal Bell, to aviod toxic spikes and such, or HP Fire to increase damage, since this is aldready quite an offensive team.
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Mammoth @ Leftovers
252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Impish
Ablilty: Sturdy

Rapid Spin
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Stealth Rock

Useful for killing Garchomp and the like, lays down Stealth Rock, and spins since much of my team it weak to Stealth Rock.

Problems:
Heatran decimates my team, and I can't think of any way to counter it since Water Types don't work out on my team.
Suicune hurts quite badly, so would Electrivire/Zapdos/Raikou be an option since Gyrados isn't?
 
I would get rid of that "New!" I would say that this team gets rid of Hippowdon and Ttar fairly well, which is good because they could do bad things otherwise. Perhaps SpecsEggy > Shiftry with its better Satk?
 
Hmm seems fun. There are some things you could try though. I don't really see Tangrowth being that big of a factor so we'll revisit that issue.

First off, you can try Life Orb on Moltres. You're going to be Roosting anyways, so why not take advantage of that 1.3. You'll rarely face anything that would be leave them SE into Moltres.

Now, what I'd also like to do is go back to that Tangrowth thing. The important here that you'll be facing is Heatran and Tyranitar. Wanna take both down? Let's slap Dugtrio in there. Scarf guarantees you rape all Heatrans, regardless of Scarf, however limits your ability to "guarantee" the kill on Tyranitar.

284 attack vs 256 defense, 100 power(*2 *1.5), 342 max HP: 70.76% - 83.33%

So if you can guarantee doing 30%, you're safe. Or you can try CB to guarantee OHKO, but would have to wait for a Scarf Heatran to use a move other than a Fire one to kill something.

Other than that, seems dandy.
 
Hmm.. Well that is a good point. On Shoddy, Tangrowth hasn't been doing much. It usually dies pretty quick to a Fire Blast/Ice Beam.

EDIT: Tangrowth has been replaced with Exeggutor.
 
If Tangrowth is Replaced by Eggy why is he still there? And I do not enjoy that set much. If this is Sunny Day team then I would use, Leech Seed/Morning Sun, Sleep Powder, Solarbeam, and HP Fire. Eggy wants HP Ice as his Hidden Power.

It looks like a fun team and seems like it could work
 
Eggy gets Morning Sun? Oops, I meant he replaced Shiftry. Hidden Power is most likely a no, since it's so impossible to get.
 
Oh no I meant Tangrowth gets Morning Sun. I thought this was a shoddy team my bad lol. And if its not shoddy then forget about morning sun on tangrowth I think. Might as well Rest with Leaf Guard. I usually run chlorophyll though. But that works too
 
Yeah, this is a WiFi team. I didn't run chlorophyl since I'm not looking to outrun anything. Would he look better with this moveset?

~Ingrain
~Power Whip
~Knock Off
~Substitute
 
moonlight gets halfed during the sun i think and morning day gets a boost or is that synthisis? this team can get rid of ttar decintly easily but a mix ape gets boosted to a dangers lvl i always carry a cb azu or sumthin in sd teams to 2hko them evil monkeys :p (most times 1hko this dude lived 2 but i think he hacked)
 
the t.o.d said:
moonlight gets halfed during the sun i think and morning day gets a boost or is that synthisis? this team can get rid of ttar decintly easily but a mix ape gets boosted to a dangers lvl i always carry a cb azu or sumthin in sd teams to 2hko them evil monkeys :p (most times 1hko this dude lived 2 but i think he hacked)
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I seriously don't know why people like him that don't know what they're doing still try to rate other people's teams, just ignore him. I'm not going to go really in-depath here, though I'd replace Tangroth for Celebi or something, and smack Life Orb onto Moltres.
 
the t.o.d said:
moonlight gets halfed during the sun i think and morning day gets a boost or is that synthisis? this team can get rid of ttar decintly easily but a mix ape gets boosted to a dangers lvl i always carry a cb azu or sumthin in sd teams to 2hko them evil monkeys :p (most times 1hko this dude lived 2 but i think he hacked)
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What the hell are you talking about dude?? Moonlight's heal increased almost 70% in Sun. Exactly, moonlight heal two-thirds of Cresselia's HP in the sun.
 
the t.o.d said:
moonlight gets halfed during the sun i think and morning day gets a boost or is that synthisis? this team can get rid of ttar decintly easily but a mix ape gets boosted to a dangers lvl i always carry a cb azu or sumthin in sd teams to 2hko them evil monkeys :p (most times 1hko this dude lived 2 but i think he hacked)
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Do some research.



The problem with taking out Tangrowth for Celebi is that the team no longer becomes a Sun team. I'd like to retain the Sunny-based aspect of the team. That is a problem, but does anyone have any Ideas on if I could work a Water Type (Feraligator, preferably, since I'm EVing one right now)


Some other weather pokemon:

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Castform @ Expert Belt
80 Def / 252 SpA / 176 Spe
Modest

Thunderbolt
Weather Ball
Ice Beam
Solar Beam

Can SE quite a few things, and most people will not know it's moveset due to it's lack of use. He is a fun pokemon to use.

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Roserade @ Heat Rock/Choice Specs/Scarf
6 Def/ 252 SpA/252 Spd
Timid

Weather Ball
Energy Ball
Shadow Ball
Sleep Powder

Do any of these look good? Feraligator looks like:
@ Life Orb
6 HP/ 252 Atk/252 Spe

Ice Punch
Rock Slide
Waterfall
Swords Dance
 
Sorry about the double post but I had another idea and the EDIT button isn't working:

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@ Leftovers
252 Def/38 SpA/220 SpD
Bold

Aromatherapy
Synthesis
Seed Flare
Leech Seed

Support Shamyn, uses Synthesis+Leech Seed to stay alive and Seed Flare to lower their SpDefenses, allowing me to revenge kill/switch in to a SpA based pokemon.
 
Couldn't Celebi have done basically the same thing, but better? You could also try something else with Celebi as well, Baton Passing Calm Minds, which would help Exeggutor, Cresselia, and Moltres in terms of Pokes who can use it offensively. Baton Pass / Calm Mind / Heal Bell / Recover ????? Of course Skarmory would get in easily but I'm betting it's real discouraged from this whole team anyways. If not, you could always slap HPFire over Heal Bell, which in sun, would do a great deal of damage to it.

If it switches in on Celebi as it Calm Minds..

236 attack vs 176 defense, 70 power(*2 *1.5 *1.5), 334 max HP: 91.62% - 107.78%

45% chance of an OHKO.
 
Lol, you posted at 12:39 AM? Anyways, that is a good point. But, Shaymin doesn't roll over and die from a Pursuit, although Baton Pass might prevent that. Yeah, I think that would work. What about Castform/Rosarade (Weather Ball)? The thing is, the team is almost done, and I need a Grass type to replace Tangrowth, since he doesn't really do much.
 
Looks like this could work. The only problem with your team(like you said) is heatran, or infernape.

I was thinking maybe take out donphan and use skarm w/ spikes and whirlwind, or anything else of this nature. It will allow you to shuffle their team and see if they got another fire poke.

Or use heatran, or arcanine(maybe with roar?), they are only ones I can think of right now with flash fire. To take care of anyone, just an idea
 
the t.o.d said:
moonlight gets halfed during the sun i think and morning day gets a boost or is that synthisis? this team can get rid of ttar decintly easily but a mix ape gets boosted to a dangers lvl i always carry a cb azu or sumthin in sd teams to 2hko them evil monkeys :p (most times 1hko this dude lived 2 but i think he hacked)
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By sun, you mean sand. Morning Sun, Synthesis and Moonlight all get boost in sun and heal you by 67% max. In sand it's 25% max.
 
Hmm.. Taking out Donphan would mean taking out Ice Shard, which is a counter to Garchomp and Salamance. Arcanine WAS on here, but it was replaced. Celebii is now up too.
 
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