Team G: Theme Team! Please Help Me Out

[Flail]

Pokemon is supposed to be fun, right? Well, here's my 'fun' team; a team I like to call "TEAM G!" That's right, it's a Godzilla theme, so here they are:

First, I tested this team a little on Shoddy and its done fairly well. However, I'm sure there's plenty of room for improvment. When I have this team as solid as it can get I plan on breeding and raising for wifi. So please, no HP or difficult to obtain 3rd gen moves.

I'm not the greatest battler or team builder so have at the movesets and ev's.

One rule to keep in mind when rating this team: It's a Godzilla theme. All pokemon must represent a monster from the Godzilla series (However, I might consider representations from other kaiju series, i.e., Blastoise - Gamera). While I know there are a lot better choices than the pokemon on my team, this is a theme team so I really want to make the pokes I have (or the other alternatives listed below) as good as possible. If you can think of another kaiju related pokemon please feel free to suggest.

After the team description I'll offer some alternate pokemon, however, all of them are UU and I'm not sure any of them would mesh well with this team but maybe there's something there that could work.

Anyway, on to the team:

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as

"Megaguirus"
Modest
Wise Glasses
4 HP | 252 SpAtt | 252 Speed
- Air Slash
- Bug Buzz
- Hypnosis
- Protect

Standard. Great Lead. Hypnosis helps set up for Gyrados or TTar.

"Godzilla"
Adamant
Leftovers
94 HP | 252 Att | 164 Speed
- Dragon Dance
- Stone Edge
- Crunch
- Thunder Fang

My current lead. Gets the sand storm started early which really helps this team. I'm really hating stone edge and its 80% miss rate. I know its not 80% but it damn well seems that way. I'm strongly considering rock slide. Thunder Fang would have won me a match had I remembered I had it! (Gyrados came in to set up and I SE'd forgetting I had TF!! Shoddy is too damn fast to think clearly!)

as

"Rodan"
Adamant
Choice Band
4 HP | 252 Att | 252 Speed
- Rock Slide
- Aerial Ace
- Pursuit
- Earthquake

This thing hits HARD. With SR support it can really wreak havoc. I really like the choice band version and I haven't had much trouble getting him in. Rock slide > Stone edge. Aero misses - he dies.

as

"Baragon"
Timid
Choice Scarf
4 HP | 252 SpAtt | 252 Speed
- Earth Power
- Thunderbolt
- Fire Blast
- Ice Beam

Star of the team, really. My only special attacker. This team desperately needs a special attacker and nido was the only choice given the pool of pokes available. Completely walled by Blissey but I've got plenty of other pokes to deal w/her. The scarf helps him to get the jump on faster pokemon - my overall team speed is pretty bad.

as

"Manda"
Adamant
Leftovers
72 HP | 252 Att | 184 Speed
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang

Standard, straight from the analysis. I've been leery of trying the taunt version, would that work better with this team?

as
"Biollante"
Calm
Leftovers
252 HP | 204 Def | 54 SpDef
- Ancient Power
- Stealth Rock
- Recover
- Toxic

Okay, this poke is probably the one most in need of help. I ev'd it try to give it time to lay down rocks and toxic but it just can't stand up to the beating of this metagame. I thought I'd give ancient power a try because, with luck, I figured it could become real annoying. I figured out that ancient power just sucks. This poke's spot on the team is shaky at best.

as

"Megalon"
Adamant - Guts
Life Orb
104 HP | 252 Def | 152 Speed
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Stone Edge
- Sleep Talk

My sleep absorber. Standard from the analysis except I went with life orb over choice band as I really didn't want to have too many choice users. Might be better to trade items with Aerodactyl as Aero doesn't get hurt in sand storm. I don't know...

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Anyway, this team has done fairly well, better than I thought it would. I have a fairly big water weak, which is why I decided to lead w/TTar. Fighting is also a problem. Swampert kills me. I was also raped by subseed Jumpluff (my aero was dead). I really need to set up stealth rock and Cradily just isn't up to the task. Not sure who else could do it though...I realize I don't have a spinner but SR hasn't proved a big problem for me - maybe Blastoise as a spinner?

Other possibilities:

Hedorah - Ebirah - Mothra - Anguirus - Gamera - Gamera - Batra

Thanks for checking out my team! Have at it ~ Change the ev's, moves, whatever - but please try to work with these pokes. I realize this will never be a top tier OU team, I just want it to be the best it can be.

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Update 4/7 - Added Yanmega, removed Cradily. I now have no Stealth Rock support and this has hurt Aerodactyl somewhat, but this team is performing better even without it.

 

[EvilMario]

Tyranitar really doesn't want Thunderfang, seeing as Stone Edge will put a hole into Gyarados. Replacing it with Taunt is preferable if you're leading with him, but Earthquake would offer decent coverage. Ice Beam prevents Tyranitar from being walled by the likes of Gliscor, Hippowdon, and what not.

And what are you hoping out run with your current IVs? You may want to run Jolly, with max speed. Not only will this be more effective as being slightly faster with your Taunts, but you'll be out speeding most non-Scarf Pokemon after a single dance.

I'm not much of a teamrater, but be careful with your Heracross. Life Orb, plus Sand Stream up, and possibly absorbing Burn/Poison for Guts will kill Heracross quickly. You might also consider a spinner, and/or phazer over Cradily if you seem to be running into issues with him. Aero/Gyarados will greatly appreciate not eating Stealth Rocks all the time.

Good luck. ^_^

 

[Taylor]

Here's something I'd recommend.

Bronzong and Vaporeon over Aerodactyl and Nidoking.

Let's be realistic, you want to counter Gyarados, Mamoswine, Garchomp, Infernape, give Wish support to Gyarados for Lucario and Heracross. Plus, you'll want some Hypnosis and Stealth Rock (or have an extra slot instead with Cradily using SR) for your Tyranitar and Heracross sweep.

That leaves you open to Toxic Spikes, which would devistate your team by taking out Vaporeon, Tyranitar and Cradily. That leaves you an option on to keep Nidoking if you so desire, and add Vaporeon over Heracross instead of Nidoking.

You can also try Tentacruel instead of Vaporeon, and use Wish Blissey over Cradily (which will support your own Gyarados).

Keep in mind that Bronzong must go over Aerodactyl when making these changes.

Finally, if you give Gyarados the bulky set, which can be located here: http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/gyarados. Then you will be able to take Lucario / Heracross hits with a more defensive spread.

Let me know what you think.

 

[Cyl3x]

I thought the team was too physical orientated. Nidoking doesn't suffice as a special sweeper. I think something like a gengar would do.

 

[Flail]

Tyranitar really doesn't want Thunderfang, seeing as Stone Edge will put a hole into Gyarados. Replacing it with Taunt is preferable if you're leading with him, but Earthquake would offer decent coverage. Ice Beam prevents Tyranitar from being walled by the likes of Gliscor, Hippowdon, and what not.

I know Stone Edge is supposed to be a great move but it misses for me all the time and at the worst times. I have Thunder Fang primarily for Gyrados. Taunt sounds interesting though...

And what are you hoping out run with your current IVs? You may want to run Jolly, with max speed. Not only will this be more effective as being slightly faster with your Taunts, but you'll be out speeding most non-Scarf Pokemon after a single dance.

Jolly sounds like a good suggestion. I'll probably try this out. Thanks

Bronzong and Vaporeon over Aerodactyl and Nidoking.

I'm sure your correct but this is a theme team so I really want to work with these (or alternate kaiju related pokemon).

Finally, if you give Gyarados the bulky set, which can be located here: http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/gyarados. Then you will be able to take Lucario / Heracross hits with a more defensive spread.

I might give this a try. Thanks

I thought the team was too physical orientated. Nidoking doesn't suffice as a special sweeper. I think something like a gengar would do.

You are absolutely correct. I love Gengar but he doesn't really fit this 'theme'. Do you think adding Blastoise over Cradily would help. He could spin and add some special support. Another Ice Beamer would be good too. What do you think?

Also, if I remove Cradily, who should I use to lay down rocks?

 

[Silverfire]

Here's something I'd recommend.

Bronzong and Vaporeon over Aerodactyl and Nidoking.

I might just be trolling but god do you always post in RMT's the same 4 pokemon. Add Garchomp he owns!!!11 Way to over-centralize the metagame. Thanks to you everyone is gonna have the same team. Quoted from the first pokemon and someone's avatar: "Strong pokemon. Weak pokemon. That´s only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites." And that is how it should be.

As for your team Ice Fang over beam as Gyarados has shitty SpA and so you won't have to split up ev's. Probably a typo anyways.

 

[kd24]

I might just be trolling but god do you always post in RMT's the same 4 pokemon. Add Garchomp he owns!!!11 Way to over-centralize the metagame. Thanks to you everyone is gonna have the same team. Quoted from the first pokemon and someone's avatar: "Strong pokemon. Weak pokemon. That´s only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites." And that is how it should be.

As for your team Ice Fang over beam as Gyarados has shitty SpA and so you won't have to split up ev's. Probably a typo anyways.

God why ruin someones RMT and spout off on some nonsense about this team being too standard and whatnot. I think you broke at least 5 Team rating rules here.

Anyway to the OP, I am concerned about Gengar and Mamoswine which hurt this team. I think it is highly feasible for A Vaporeon as Taylor already stated. It would give much needed wish support.

I think NidoKing needs to be replaced for something more bulky and better at special sweeping. I mean a team of

Tar/Aero/Nido/Cradily is too easily beaten by a good water, like SpecsStar. And Heracross and Gyarados are not what I call counters. Aeros pursuit could help on it but I think your best option is to ditch something for Celebi as well as Vaporeon.

I like the Godzilla theme but I think the team needs more balance or it won't work.

A final team of maybe

Gyarados/Celebi/Vaporeon/Heracross/NidoKing/Aerodactly could fare better. I would make Nidoking the CrushKing though. To me that seems like a much more balanced team and without Tar SS won't destroy you. Just remember that with tar, Hera would take 16% a turn and Gyaras bulkiness is kind of useless since leftovers is canceled. I don't really like Tar on this team.

But if you want to keep the Godzilla thing you should go for it. This is about having fun but I would fix the ev spreads and a few items as well. Also tar if kep would want Stone Edge or Rock Slide if Accuaracy is a problem.

 

[Taylor]

Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites."

While I disagree with that completely, you haven't even said why. Also, we're offering the best of advice to cover or create an offensive route, or such. This isn't a forum where we're supposed to offer the users favourite Pokemon. They come here for help to get the best out of their team. If they signify that they're wanting favourites only, then that's fine. You have missed many RMTs where Tsurukawa has alot of the time offered Bronzong to the user. Now I don't disagree when he does advise it, because it fits perfectly in the team he's advised it in. Though, you must have missed that? But yeah, it's been advised because it's a good change. I can't believe I'm giving your post alone so much attention.

I'm sorry for going Off-Topic, but good god...

The changes have been offered if he wants to get the best out of a team, and if not I can always advise different sets and such, but that wouldn't give him coverage against such a Pokemon (as that's not countering).

 

[Silverfire]

Oh god don't give me that bs. Whatever if you are offering your best advice by naming the same pokemon in all your RMT comments you are pretty much making everyone's teams the exact same. My post was not supposed to be thrashing you but jesus you have no creativity. Put in vaporeon so he can wish heal bronzong and garchomp you just swapped with <insert poke's names here>. <-- In about every thread you write. Your posts are boring. I'm posting just because i have the freedom to speak my words even if it was in the wrong forum whatever.

And i never said anything about the original poster's team. wtf? can't comprehend?

 

[slayer124]

Oh god don't give me that bs. Whatever if you are offering your best advice by naming the same pokemon in all your RMT comments you are pretty much making everyone's teams the exact same. My post was not supposed to be thrashing you but jesus you have no creativity. Put in vaporeon so he can wish heal bronzong and garchomp you just swapped with <insert poke's names here>. <-- In about every thread you write. Your posts are boring. I'm posting just because i have the freedom to speak my words even if it was in the wrong forum whatever.

And i never said anything about the original poster's team. wtf? can't comprehend?

Yes you have freedom to speak your words and make your own team. Taylor don't always recommend Bronzong, Garchomp, and Vaporeon on every RMT. In his post for my RMT, i seldomly have seen he recommend Bronzong, Garchomp, and Vaporeon and he do have creativity. I think Taylor constantly recommend Bronzong, Garchomp all the time in your RMT because they will help your team a lot in general or because only they can solve your team's massive problem. Moreover, you have to know that Garchomp, Bronzong, and Vaporeon is really nice combie. Maybe it is you that make your team pretty much the same and stop swearing in internet.

 

[Taylor]

I'm posting just because i have the freedom to speak my words even if it was in the wrong forum whatever.

lol?

I don't think I'll continue this discussion with you, as it seems you're targetting me personally, even though you're saying otherwise.

I don't recommend Vaporeon everywhere. I could advise Jirachi for Wish support, but I don't...because it would cause a Gyarados weak (which is the main reason why I recommend Vaporeon often). Why in god's name would I offer a user Togekiss with Wish over Vaporeon when he has a Infernape / Gyarados weak? Do I just offer Starmie or something to please you?

I previously didn't say anything about you targetting me, but after your 2nd post I would have to say you are.

There's always a different set of Pokemon to counter a whole lot of threats. But I don't intend on changing someone's team drastically to counter everything there is, so I can "advise", not "demand" the simplest way out to develop a team into countering say Gyarados and Infernape with only one Pokemon.

It's up to Flail, and if he's fine with such change, then let him do so.

Why not continue in PM or Shoddy?

 

[Raj]

Go Modest Nidoking, + Speed Scarfers are unnecessary unless a Poke's speed is atrocious, in which case it is not. Fire Blast and Boltbeam combo are a little redundant. Surf, Focus Blast, Shadow Ball, or HP of your choice would be much better placed.

Also, you said you'd like to use certain Pokes, Torterra one of them. Torterra is a turtle right? If so (and there is a turtlish Godzilla beast) then Shuckle can replace Cradily and do a better job.
Shuckle @ Leftovers

Hope my advice helps you and good luck!
Impish
252 HP/ 200 Def/ 56 Sp Def
Toxic
Encore
Rest
Protect
Will outstall anything not named Metagross or Lucario. Reaches 600 Defense and 765 Sp Defence in Sandstorm.

 

[EvilMario]

Go Modest Nidoking, + Speed Scarfers are unnecessary unless a Poke's speed is atrocious, in which case it is not. Fire Blast and Boltbeam combo are a little redundant. Surf, Focus Blast, Shadow Ball, or HP of your choice would be much better placed.

Actually, I think he should probably run Timid with 44 Speed EVs. He'll be out speeding neutral base 90s in this case. I see why you're running Fire Blast on him, because the rest of your team lacks a fire move. If you do decide to replace the move on him, Focus Punch has a bigger upside in OU in all likelihood, destroying special walls. Shadowball will probably help a bit more against Gengar though.

 

[ToiletGecko]

I do agree that a real special hitter would help. Have you considered Yanmega (as Megaguirus, of course)? You could also consider Roserade or Venusaur as a possible alternate Biollante.

 

[Flail]

I do agree that a real special hitter would help. Have you considered Yanmega (as Megaguirus, of course)? You could also consider Roserade or Venusaur as a possible alternate Biollante.

All right! That's what I'm looking for. I had thought of Yanmega as Megaguirus but I don't know why I didn't list it. Anyway, I've tried it out as my lead and I really like it so I think it's on the team (bye cradily).

I also gave Gliscor (as Batra) a try (in place of Hera) but I was unimpressed. It left me with too many ice weaks and he really didn't seem to do much. It also deprived me of my sleep absorber (Hera).

Go Modest Nidoking, + Speed Scarfers are unnecessary unless a Poke's speed is atrocious, in which case it is not. Fire Blast and Boltbeam combo are a little redundant. Surf, Focus Blast, Shadow Ball, or HP of your choice would be much better placed.

Actually, I think he should probably run Timid with 44 Speed EVs. He'll be out speeding neutral base 90s in this case. I see why you're running Fire Blast on him, because the rest of your team lacks a fire move. If you do decide to replace the move on him, Focus Punch has a bigger upside in OU in all likelihood, destroying special walls. Shadowball will probably help a bit more against Gengar though.

Thanks for the advice on Nido. However, I have to say I've been very pleased with Nido's performance so I don't think I'll change him much. I'll probably make him Modest and I may add Focus Punch over Fire Blast.