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Pet Mod GlaceMons - Playtesting; OU is done! | Please read Post #553!
- Thread starter HydreigonTheChild
- Start date
Okay, I'm just here to make the announcement that I'm stepping down as a TL for Glacemons, ultimately I've been rather busy in recent months, and that combined with my decreasing interest on the tier has led it to stagnate for quite a while, I'll still remain around the council to give my two cents on things and to ease policy making in any case, and of course I'll still be leading Glacemons Ubers, although it's still quite inactive either way.
In other news, the tier leader torch is being passed to HydreigonTheChild ! I'm sure you'll be able to make this tier the best it can be.
In other news, the tier leader torch is being passed to HydreigonTheChild ! I'm sure you'll be able to make this tier the best it can be.
Sooo as I became TL of this pet mod I wanted to get this into PMPL; Nerfed some very broken stuff like bonfire completely roasting stuff (mega zard y was doing 90% to slowking-galar with 5 allies), Spammernoob using surprise bomb to just invalidate landorus, garchomp, diancie, and other 4x weak mons by just switching this in, Knight's Armor being unremovable was something and made fat pokemon way to hard to take down like Umbreon, and Neutralizer being like insanely good on stall mons to sit on everything. Going to try getting resources out sometime soon especially with PMPL submissions going on. Testing this meta has been quite fun and I think its been in a decent state. Here's the changes made to elements in the mod. Frostnip nerfs are to make it so that these pokemon are just not getting out of hand / having so much access to special wisp. Was thinking of maybe in the future of buffing weaker subs who see not much usage but one step at a time, we will see how the meta ends up being.
Spammernoob
Moves
Dragon Rend
85 BP 30% chance to flinch the target -> 70 BP Has a 100% chance to lower the target's Defense by 1 stage.
Frostnip
Removed distribution: :terapagos-terastal::yamask::cofagrigus::runerigus::slowbro::slowbro-galar::slowking::slowking-galar::rotom:(+Forms):slowpoke-galar:
Synchronoise
New Effect: Now uses the primary type of the user when attacking
Rock Climb
Contact -> Non Contact
Bonfire
60 BP + 20 Per Ally -> 65 BP + 15 Per Ally
Wildbolt Storm
Physical -> Special
Dragon Rend
85 BP 30% chance to flinch the target -> 70 BP Has a 100% chance to lower the target's Defense by 1 stage.
Frostnip
Removed distribution: :terapagos-terastal::yamask::cofagrigus::runerigus::slowbro::slowbro-galar::slowking::slowking-galar::rotom:(+Forms):slowpoke-galar:
Synchronoise
New Effect: Now uses the primary type of the user when attacking
Rock Climb
Contact -> Non Contact
Bonfire
60 BP + 20 Per Ally -> 65 BP + 15 Per Ally
Wildbolt Storm
Physical -> Special
Stench
New Effect: Now is once per switch in
Resourceful
If this Pokémon's item would trigger, it triggers again. and can avoid being consumed once. -> Items are recycled once after use. (Thank god this is finally not crashing. Btw this is already implemented just wrote this out here)
New Effect: Now is once per switch in
Resourceful
If this Pokémon's item would trigger, it triggers again. and can avoid being consumed once. -> Items are recycled once after use. (Thank god this is finally not crashing. Btw this is already implemented just wrote this out here)
Neutralizer
Holder cannot be hit or hit opposing Pokemon for super effective damage either. -> Now Reduces Super Effective dmg by ⅓ and reduce Super Effective Damage done to opposing pokemon by ⅓
Surprise Bomb
On switch-in -> Triggers at the end of the turn
Knights Armor
New Effect: Can now be removed by Item manipulating effects
Holder cannot be hit or hit opposing Pokemon for super effective damage either. -> Now Reduces Super Effective dmg by ⅓ and reduce Super Effective Damage done to opposing pokemon by ⅓
Surprise Bomb
On switch-in -> Triggers at the end of the turn
Knights Armor
New Effect: Can now be removed by Item manipulating effects
:Runerigus:
-Infernal Parade
:Braviary-Hisui:
Gale wings -> Sheer Force
Imagine gen 6 talon but with tinted lens with dungeons loopet… yeah this is pretty busted, at least after returning to its OG ability it can be checked by fast mons or has to use esper wing rather than be a nuclear bomb with 112 modest +1 priority.
:Sharpedo-Mega:
Strong jaw / Speed Boost -> Speed boost / Strong Jaw (Means you can run speed boost and mega evolve into strong jaw sharpedo-mega)
:Haxorus:
+ Shift Gear
:Hippowdon:
Sand Force -> Thick Fat
-Infernal Parade
:Braviary-Hisui:
Gale wings -> Sheer Force
Imagine gen 6 talon but with tinted lens with dungeons loopet… yeah this is pretty busted, at least after returning to its OG ability it can be checked by fast mons or has to use esper wing rather than be a nuclear bomb with 112 modest +1 priority.
:Sharpedo-Mega:
Strong jaw / Speed Boost -> Speed boost / Strong Jaw (Means you can run speed boost and mega evolve into strong jaw sharpedo-mega)
:Haxorus:
+ Shift Gear
:Hippowdon:
Sand Force -> Thick Fat
Spammernoob
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Surprise Bomb was fair and balanced.
me when the whole point of knights armor is zombified and irrelevant !!! Corruptthechild classic move…….
Soo another balance change will happen
:pecharunt: -Stench
This mon is just way to bulky to force torment every single time it takes damage, forces checkmate situations in end game scenarios and is just stupid hard to break on both sides especially physically. Something like great tusk cannot do enough damage because it cannot headlong -> headlong rush. And in addition it just makes it stupid hard to force progress. Being a choiced pokemon against pecharunt isnt fun at all.
:pecharunt: -Stench
This mon is just way to bulky to force torment every single time it takes damage, forces checkmate situations in end game scenarios and is just stupid hard to break on both sides especially physically. Something like great tusk cannot do enough damage because it cannot headlong -> headlong rush. And in addition it just makes it stupid hard to force progress. Being a choiced pokemon against pecharunt isnt fun at all.
Well I have been working on a set compedium as of late. Been having fun, if u have ideas for sets u can send them in the glacemon discord. I got this far. Probably gonna use the post to keep it up to date and update the one on the front page as well but yeah. (The image links to the paste, had plans to maybe make a small analysis in there but we will see)
Set Compedium
:pmd/absol-mega:
:pmd/aegislash:
:pmd/aerodactyl-mega:
:pmd/alomomola:
:pmd/altaria-mega:
:pmd/arctozolt:
:pmd/avalugg:
:pmd/avalugg-hisui:
:pmd/azelf:
:pmd/banette-mega:
:pmd/barraskewda:
:pmd/blacephalon:
:pmd/blissey:
:pmd/buzzwole:
:pmd/camerupt-mega:
:pmd/celesteela:
:pmd/ceruledge:
:pmd/charizard-mega-y:
:pmd/charizard-mega-x:
:pmd/cinderace:
:pmd/clefable:
:pmd/cofagrigus:
:pmd/corviknight:
:pmd/cramorant:
Set Compedium
:pmd/absol-mega:
:pmd/aegislash:
:pmd/aerodactyl-mega:
:pmd/alomomola:
:pmd/altaria-mega:
:pmd/arctozolt:
:pmd/avalugg:
:pmd/avalugg-hisui:
:pmd/azelf:
:pmd/banette-mega:
:pmd/barraskewda:
:pmd/blacephalon:
:pmd/blissey:
:pmd/buzzwole:
:pmd/camerupt-mega:
:pmd/celesteela:
:pmd/ceruledge:
:pmd/charizard-mega-y:
:pmd/charizard-mega-x:
:pmd/cinderace:
:pmd/clefable:
:pmd/cofagrigus:
:pmd/corviknight:
:pmd/cramorant:
3rd time the charm..
:pikachu: (All Forms)
-Extreme Speed
+Terrain Pulse
Pikanium-Z
210 BP -> 195 BP
Pikachu is quite a terror in testing, fake out + extreme speed lead to pikachu world and base pikachu running circles all over teams esp the base form with being able to OHKO frail offensive mons with extreme speed and out prioritize everything. With no extreme speed it loses quite a bit of damage or has to sacrifice priority for damage which would make it much more tolerable and means that hitting ground types it has to use something else. The Z-Move is eating a BP nerf because it is just to strong, It has insane levels of damage especially for a mon that isnt bad against offense with fake out + quick attack will still do a fair bit against them. Terrain Pulse is to give tools for the alola form
Spammernoob
:pikachu: (All Forms)
-Extreme Speed
+Terrain Pulse
Pikanium-Z
210 BP -> 195 BP
Pikachu is quite a terror in testing, fake out + extreme speed lead to pikachu world and base pikachu running circles all over teams esp the base form with being able to OHKO frail offensive mons with extreme speed and out prioritize everything. With no extreme speed it loses quite a bit of damage or has to sacrifice priority for damage which would make it much more tolerable and means that hitting ground types it has to use something else. The Z-Move is eating a BP nerf because it is just to strong, It has insane levels of damage especially for a mon that isnt bad against offense with fake out + quick attack will still do a fair bit against them. Terrain Pulse is to give tools for the alola form
Spammernoob
Every time Hydreigon loses too much in testing we get a new balance change :tepig:
black on black text my beloved...
Dark mode user spotted
Well we had some games, this was interesting week.
Week 1
:tyranitar::excadrill::golisopod::tapu lele::zapdos::ferrothorn:[GG] presi vs Spammernoob [GS]:tapu lele::greninja::garchomp-mega::gholdengo::zamazenta::deoxys-speed:
Well these teams are interesting first we have a pokebilities excadrill + tyranitar. I feel tyranitar is a bit odd to pair with lele as pebble storm is a pretty nice move on it but maybe it got dropped, tyranitar never revealed its set so its hard to imagine but its prob a mega tyranitar with 4 attacks. The team feels very interesting using dungeon looplet excadrill as its beaker. I think the defensive core of golisopod + zapdos + ferrothorn is quite solid aside from mega diancie. Spammernoobs team is interesting, it has no ground resist or immunity which is something as this is prob the best thing excadrill can ask for, it is more of a psy spam + physical deoxys-s with LO zama to beatdown on the darks and steels.
Unfortunately I don't commentate games well but LO zama-h tearing apart the defensive hole with CC + Stone edge was quite amazing her and if there was something that could stop the excadrill it probably could have allowed the team to just tear it apart after ferro died early, the looplet excadrill went complete nuts here as it just ran over the team which lacked a ground resist to take it on.
:smeargle::glaceon::gholdengo::kommo-o::iron valiant::tyranitar-mega: [WG] Felilou vs solrock the great [FF]:golisopod::umbreon::iron hands::latias-mega::genesect-chill::ferrothorn:
Smeargle was not on my bingo of "stuff that will be brought to glacemons" but its still smth, dumping out all those hazards was a sight. Solrock also brought stuff i did not expect with genesect chill, pokebilities golisopod, and body press iron hands. Initial impressions on this game was that there was nothing to block z kommo-o and ki blast bulletproof alongside gholdnego vs umbreon, ferrothorn, latias-m is going to go bananas while iron hands is really impressive at just shaking hits off and just nuking stuff so anything could go.
And to the game kommo-o certainly did put in a lot of work alongside gholdengo especially vs an umbreon structure. I think body press iron hands is super odd to use. But it was certainly interesting to see ice-ate genesect have stuff it did.
:floette-eternal::venusaur-mega::landorus-therian::cramorant::zamazenta::heatran:[DD] LOOR vs HydreigonTheChild [TR]:tapu fini::manectric-mega::regigigas::aegislash-blade::mandibuzz::garchomp:
Hard to comment on my own game but i remember prepping going into the game with how nuts fini has felt in testing so i decided to roll with it. Aegi + regigigas are there for bulkier MU's where tapu fini just doesnt have the power to break through. While i find the changes of sylveon -> floette and rotom-w -> Cramorant alongside helmet lando-t interesting especially if my aegi ate a dark pulse T4.
Some W1 comments:
I feel some very top tier mons like tapu fini, raging bolt, diancie-m, tangrowth, skarmory weren't brought but some pokemon like smeargle, excadrill, genesect-chill had interestingly good performances. I think as weeks go on we are gonna see something pop up as people figure it out. I am excited for what W2 has to bring
Week 1
:tyranitar::excadrill::golisopod::tapu lele::zapdos::ferrothorn:[GG] presi vs Spammernoob [GS]:tapu lele::greninja::garchomp-mega::gholdengo::zamazenta::deoxys-speed:
Well these teams are interesting first we have a pokebilities excadrill + tyranitar. I feel tyranitar is a bit odd to pair with lele as pebble storm is a pretty nice move on it but maybe it got dropped, tyranitar never revealed its set so its hard to imagine but its prob a mega tyranitar with 4 attacks. The team feels very interesting using dungeon looplet excadrill as its beaker. I think the defensive core of golisopod + zapdos + ferrothorn is quite solid aside from mega diancie. Spammernoobs team is interesting, it has no ground resist or immunity which is something as this is prob the best thing excadrill can ask for, it is more of a psy spam + physical deoxys-s with LO zama to beatdown on the darks and steels.
Unfortunately I don't commentate games well but LO zama-h tearing apart the defensive hole with CC + Stone edge was quite amazing her and if there was something that could stop the excadrill it probably could have allowed the team to just tear it apart after ferro died early, the looplet excadrill went complete nuts here as it just ran over the team which lacked a ground resist to take it on.
:smeargle::glaceon::gholdengo::kommo-o::iron valiant::tyranitar-mega: [WG] Felilou vs solrock the great [FF]:golisopod::umbreon::iron hands::latias-mega::genesect-chill::ferrothorn:
Smeargle was not on my bingo of "stuff that will be brought to glacemons" but its still smth, dumping out all those hazards was a sight. Solrock also brought stuff i did not expect with genesect chill, pokebilities golisopod, and body press iron hands. Initial impressions on this game was that there was nothing to block z kommo-o and ki blast bulletproof alongside gholdnego vs umbreon, ferrothorn, latias-m is going to go bananas while iron hands is really impressive at just shaking hits off and just nuking stuff so anything could go.
And to the game kommo-o certainly did put in a lot of work alongside gholdengo especially vs an umbreon structure. I think body press iron hands is super odd to use. But it was certainly interesting to see ice-ate genesect have stuff it did.
:floette-eternal::venusaur-mega::landorus-therian::cramorant::zamazenta::heatran:[DD] LOOR vs HydreigonTheChild [TR]:tapu fini::manectric-mega::regigigas::aegislash-blade::mandibuzz::garchomp:
Hard to comment on my own game but i remember prepping going into the game with how nuts fini has felt in testing so i decided to roll with it. Aegi + regigigas are there for bulkier MU's where tapu fini just doesnt have the power to break through. While i find the changes of sylveon -> floette and rotom-w -> Cramorant alongside helmet lando-t interesting especially if my aegi ate a dark pulse T4.
Some W1 comments:
I feel some very top tier mons like tapu fini, raging bolt, diancie-m, tangrowth, skarmory weren't brought but some pokemon like smeargle, excadrill, genesect-chill had interestingly good performances. I think as weeks go on we are gonna see something pop up as people figure it out. I am excited for what W2 has to bring
Code:
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Tyranitar | 2 | 33.33% | 100.00% |
| 1 | Golisopod | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 1 | Ferrothorn | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 1 | Gholdengo | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 1 | Garchomp | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 1 | Tapu Lele | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 1 | Zamazenta-* | 2 | 33.33% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Smeargle | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Glaceon | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Kommo-o | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Iron Valiant | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Tapu Fini | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Manectric | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Aegislash | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Regigigas | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Mandibuzz | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Excadrill | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Zapdos | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Umbreon | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Iron Hands | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Latias | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Genesect | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Floette-Eternal | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Cramorant | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Landorus-Therian | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Heatran | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Venusaur | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Greninja-* | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Deoxys-Speed | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |Week 2
:zapdos::excadrill::tapu bulu::volcanion::tyranitar::kyurem-black: [DD] Runo vs presi [GG]:zamazenta::gholdengo::samurott-hisui::great tusk::zapdos::slowking-galar:
On the right hand side we have something we may actually see in national dex which is always interesting, using a standard slowking-g, zapdos, great tusk core with samu-h (who is prob assault vest), although I feel it will be a more uphill battle especially as it feels as it uses very little elements from the mod. But on the other side of the field we have exca who looks very strong especially since as it showed last week how pokebilities with sand rush allowing it to outrun everything in tandem with sand force outputs a lot of damage. I think volcanion being paired here was quite an interesting pick as it would take advantage of picks like skarmory, golisopod, and def zapdos.
Overall protector tyranitar showcased how tanky it can be specially even and finds success despite only having dark / rock moves. Sub Roost Z Kyurem B is certainly an odd pick and feels like a SM set, although mono freeze shock as ice stab feels a bit awkward tho it worked out in the end. I think a conclusion from this result is how exca is popping up with its pokebilities item and is able to take advantage to inflict a crap ton of damage.
:tyranitar-mega::tangrowth::skarmory::great tusk::gholdengo::azelf: [TR] HydreigonTheChild vs mrfraud [WG] :mesprit::zarude::metagross::landorus-therian::raging bolt::tapu fini:
Well... second game HO was brought. I think mesprit as lead has potential (although the final 2 moves didnt get revealed. It was a good showing from HO especially with fat setup sweepers like raging bolt, zarude, and fini who become incredibly hard to deal with behind them. Metagross was a wild pick and I am unsure if it could have done more but i bet it was probably some agility set focused on spamming meteor beam to run away with the game. mesprit also had a good showing especially with its huge movepool + prankster so the last could have been anything from healing wish, rocks, u turn, magic coat, encore, etc.
As for the game itself, it was a good showing from zarude and raging bolt, they really support each other well especially with how big of a hole zarude punched in my team. From my side I was quite impressed with how mega tyranitar was able to hold the opponents off especially vs fini and metagross.
:pikachu::diancie-mega::golisopod::great tusk::celesteela::deoxys-speed: [GS] Spammernoob vs solrock the great [FF] :charizard-mega-y::raging bolt::great tusk::slither wing::heatran::enamorus:
Sun vs Diancie + Pikachu. This looks quite one sided especially since there is very little the sun team has that can stop diancie-mega from clicking Moonblast + Earth power + Petroleum Blast. I think bonfire spam is much more toned down due to the less scaling from multiple members especially with how shaky the team is defensively. Spammernoob has run a similar bonfire spam team. I think this is gonna be a game of speed from preview, as spammer has almost nothing for bonfire spam while solrock has almost nothing for diancie. Something from this game is how good diancie-m is especially vs when your steel is a heatran and absolutely crumbles to earth power.
If i was to give my thoughts we are seeing more interesting stuff. Zarude popped up and bonked a hole, excadrill is showing up and becoming a very real mon in the meta, and existing top tiers like diancie-m, raging bolt, and pikachu. While some mons like sceptile-m, pecharunt, runerigus, shaymin, and goodra continue to not show up
I think if i had to do some mons I think are really trending up those would be zarude, volcanion, excadrill as their presence in games / testing continues to be something that is really felt
:zapdos::excadrill::tapu bulu::volcanion::tyranitar::kyurem-black: [DD] Runo vs presi [GG]:zamazenta::gholdengo::samurott-hisui::great tusk::zapdos::slowking-galar:
On the right hand side we have something we may actually see in national dex which is always interesting, using a standard slowking-g, zapdos, great tusk core with samu-h (who is prob assault vest), although I feel it will be a more uphill battle especially as it feels as it uses very little elements from the mod. But on the other side of the field we have exca who looks very strong especially since as it showed last week how pokebilities with sand rush allowing it to outrun everything in tandem with sand force outputs a lot of damage. I think volcanion being paired here was quite an interesting pick as it would take advantage of picks like skarmory, golisopod, and def zapdos.
Overall protector tyranitar showcased how tanky it can be specially even and finds success despite only having dark / rock moves. Sub Roost Z Kyurem B is certainly an odd pick and feels like a SM set, although mono freeze shock as ice stab feels a bit awkward tho it worked out in the end. I think a conclusion from this result is how exca is popping up with its pokebilities item and is able to take advantage to inflict a crap ton of damage.
:tyranitar-mega::tangrowth::skarmory::great tusk::gholdengo::azelf: [TR] HydreigonTheChild vs mrfraud [WG] :mesprit::zarude::metagross::landorus-therian::raging bolt::tapu fini:
Well... second game HO was brought. I think mesprit as lead has potential (although the final 2 moves didnt get revealed. It was a good showing from HO especially with fat setup sweepers like raging bolt, zarude, and fini who become incredibly hard to deal with behind them. Metagross was a wild pick and I am unsure if it could have done more but i bet it was probably some agility set focused on spamming meteor beam to run away with the game. mesprit also had a good showing especially with its huge movepool + prankster so the last could have been anything from healing wish, rocks, u turn, magic coat, encore, etc.
As for the game itself, it was a good showing from zarude and raging bolt, they really support each other well especially with how big of a hole zarude punched in my team. From my side I was quite impressed with how mega tyranitar was able to hold the opponents off especially vs fini and metagross.
:pikachu::diancie-mega::golisopod::great tusk::celesteela::deoxys-speed: [GS] Spammernoob vs solrock the great [FF] :charizard-mega-y::raging bolt::great tusk::slither wing::heatran::enamorus:
Sun vs Diancie + Pikachu. This looks quite one sided especially since there is very little the sun team has that can stop diancie-mega from clicking Moonblast + Earth power + Petroleum Blast. I think bonfire spam is much more toned down due to the less scaling from multiple members especially with how shaky the team is defensively. Spammernoob has run a similar bonfire spam team. I think this is gonna be a game of speed from preview, as spammer has almost nothing for bonfire spam while solrock has almost nothing for diancie. Something from this game is how good diancie-m is especially vs when your steel is a heatran and absolutely crumbles to earth power.
Code:
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Tyranitar | 2 | 33.33% | 100.00% |
| 1 | Golisopod | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 1 | Ferrothorn | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 1 | Gholdengo | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 1 | Garchomp | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 1 | Tapu Lele | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 1 | Zamazenta-* | 2 | 33.33% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Smeargle | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Glaceon | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Kommo-o | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Iron Valiant | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Tapu Fini | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Manectric | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Aegislash | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Regigigas | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Mandibuzz | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Excadrill | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Zapdos | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Umbreon | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Iron Hands | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Latias | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Genesect | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Floette-Eternal | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Cramorant | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Landorus-Therian | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Heatran | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Venusaur | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Greninja-* | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Deoxys-Speed | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
Code:
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Great Tusk | 4 | 33.33% | 25.00% |
| 2 | Gholdengo | 4 | 33.33% | 25.00% |
| 3 | Tyranitar | 4 | 33.33% | 75.00% |
| 4 | Golisopod | 3 | 25.00% | 66.67% |
| 5 | Zapdos | 3 | 25.00% | 66.67% |
| 6 | Zamazenta | 3 | 25.00% | 0.00% |
| 7 | Deoxys-Speed | 2 | 16.67% | 50.00% |
| 8 | Heatran | 2 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 9 | Raging Bolt | 2 | 16.67% | 50.00% |
| 10 | Landorus-Therian | 2 | 16.67% | 50.00% |
| 11 | Tapu Fini | 2 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 12 | Excadrill | 2 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 13 | Garchomp | 2 | 16.67% | 50.00% |
| 14 | Tapu Lele | 2 | 16.67% | 50.00% |
| 15 | Ferrothorn | 2 | 16.67% | 50.00% |
| 16 | Celesteela | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 17 | Diancie | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 18 | Pikachu | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 19 | Charizard | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 20 | Enamorus | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 21 | Slither Wing | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 22 | Azelf | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 23 | Skarmory | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 24 | Tangrowth | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 25 | Mesprit | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 26 | Metagross | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Zarude | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 28 | Kyurem-Black | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 29 | Tapu Bulu | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 30 | Volcanion | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 31 | Samurott-Hisui | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Slowking-Galar | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 33 | Greninja | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 34 | Cramorant | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 35 | Floette-Eternal | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 36 | Venusaur | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 37 | Aegislash | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 38 | Mandibuzz | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Manectric | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 40 | Regigigas | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 41 | Glaceon | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 42 | Iron Valiant | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 43 | Kommo-o | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 44 | Smeargle | 1 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 45 | Genesect-Chill | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Iron Hands | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 47 | Latias | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 48 | Umbreon | 1 | 8.33% | 0.00% |If i was to give my thoughts we are seeing more interesting stuff. Zarude popped up and bonked a hole, excadrill is showing up and becoming a very real mon in the meta, and existing top tiers like diancie-m, raging bolt, and pikachu. While some mons like sceptile-m, pecharunt, runerigus, shaymin, and goodra continue to not show up
I think if i had to do some mons I think are really trending up those would be zarude, volcanion, excadrill as their presence in games / testing continues to be something that is really felt
Week 4
:volcanion::slowking-galar::kyurem::tapu koko::celesteela::garchomp:[FF] solrock the great vs Runo [DD]:heatran::diancie-mega::melmetal::clawitzer::landorus-therian::zapdos:
Snow vs Double steel is indeed a matchup. Clawitzer first game of the league alongside melmetal which is gonna be something to see. Melmetal's ability to just hit everything super hard is gonna be interesting especially as its revealed to be AV. Ive been seeing volcanion in testing over the weeks and I think it has a high chance to just be annoying as shit especially since route closed shuts down pivoting moves.
Usually I do not comment on battles but Melmetal going 2 for 1 in the first 3 turns definitely made the battle very runo sided. I think heatran being scarf is definitely a wild pick I would not have expected but it certainly did work out tho as once volcanino and garchomp were traded out then this is basically free for heatran to have an easy time cleaning the game. I really liked the defensive core of dual steel, lando, zap. Depending on the garchomp set it could have pressured the game a lot with SD or just been a huge wall against heatran / zapdos but it was taken out so early out of the game. Using snow + kyurem is definitely something I would have liked to see get more value that game
:tapu fini::great tusk::diancie-mega::mandibuzz::aegislash::tangrowth:[TR] HydreigonTheChild vs presi [GG]:deoxys-speed::raging bolt::mawile-mega::tapu bulu::terapagos-terastal::garchomp:
Presi loaded a screens team while i loaded a more balance approach as its more so similar to stuff i have used to pre pmpl and have found success testing with. I quite like the approach to HO with deo s screens with mega mawile being brought for the first time this season. Mega mawile certainly can tear some holes into the team with a standard SD set especially with screens backing it up. On the other hand Prankster mandibuzz, protector tang are definitely moves i put onto my team to try not to have a repeat of last week.
It was another good showing from raging bolt, and it likely would have been game had tangrwoth missed a sleep powder, even with max sp. def and protector it was still taking 36 from d pulse. Aegislash was again doing a lot of work like limiting deo-s to one screen, and living a lot of hits from mawile and bulu.
:aegislash-blade::tapu bulu::volcanion::garchomp::lopunny-mega::terapagos-terastal:[GS] Spammernoob vs Felilou [WG]:tyranitar::shaymin-sky::excadrill::tangrowth::necrozma::runerigus:
Sand with looplet exca vs a BO with volcanion, aegi, Mega Lop. This is quite a MU as exca pretty much runs circles as levitate garchomp is not gonna be sufficient at taking such hits, shaymin-sky with seed flare + earth power + hurricane has a fun opportunity clicking buttons. On the opposite side we have aegi, lopunny-m, and volcanion who can always do quite a bit especially with how route closed can prevent flip turning out or using parting shot.
I think the battle played out interestingly, unfortunately land's wrath was bugged but aegi getting burnt, flower veil not being the primary ability and allowing bulu to get poisoned from hazards, and t31 not clicking return or cc definitely did not help. Necrozma was quite a nuke, with indecisive orb i bet allowing it to nuke volcanion. Even without the bug of lands wrath I think exca is way to threatening with effectively nothing to sponge vs it and aegi getting burnt.
II think by w3 we are seeing trends going on like exca sand being used 3 times with 100% WR alongside diancie-m, tapu fini. While some mons continue to feel less impactful like sceptile-m, goodra, pecharunt. I think a lot of trends are towards sand, and bulu/tang/golisopod balance teams. Interested to see what stuff come this week. Garchomp is used 5 times and winless so its quite a surprising thing to see
Was also thinking if anything felt stupid strong but always feels like different stuff are being brought especially with nothing having more than 30% usage by the end of week 3 in pmpl feels satisfying in a way.
:volcanion::slowking-galar::kyurem::tapu koko::celesteela::garchomp:[FF] solrock the great vs Runo [DD]:heatran::diancie-mega::melmetal::clawitzer::landorus-therian::zapdos:
Snow vs Double steel is indeed a matchup. Clawitzer first game of the league alongside melmetal which is gonna be something to see. Melmetal's ability to just hit everything super hard is gonna be interesting especially as its revealed to be AV. Ive been seeing volcanion in testing over the weeks and I think it has a high chance to just be annoying as shit especially since route closed shuts down pivoting moves.
Usually I do not comment on battles but Melmetal going 2 for 1 in the first 3 turns definitely made the battle very runo sided. I think heatran being scarf is definitely a wild pick I would not have expected but it certainly did work out tho as once volcanino and garchomp were traded out then this is basically free for heatran to have an easy time cleaning the game. I really liked the defensive core of dual steel, lando, zap. Depending on the garchomp set it could have pressured the game a lot with SD or just been a huge wall against heatran / zapdos but it was taken out so early out of the game. Using snow + kyurem is definitely something I would have liked to see get more value that game
:tapu fini::great tusk::diancie-mega::mandibuzz::aegislash::tangrowth:[TR] HydreigonTheChild vs presi [GG]:deoxys-speed::raging bolt::mawile-mega::tapu bulu::terapagos-terastal::garchomp:
Presi loaded a screens team while i loaded a more balance approach as its more so similar to stuff i have used to pre pmpl and have found success testing with. I quite like the approach to HO with deo s screens with mega mawile being brought for the first time this season. Mega mawile certainly can tear some holes into the team with a standard SD set especially with screens backing it up. On the other hand Prankster mandibuzz, protector tang are definitely moves i put onto my team to try not to have a repeat of last week.
It was another good showing from raging bolt, and it likely would have been game had tangrwoth missed a sleep powder, even with max sp. def and protector it was still taking 36 from d pulse. Aegislash was again doing a lot of work like limiting deo-s to one screen, and living a lot of hits from mawile and bulu.
:aegislash-blade::tapu bulu::volcanion::garchomp::lopunny-mega::terapagos-terastal:[GS] Spammernoob vs Felilou [WG]:tyranitar::shaymin-sky::excadrill::tangrowth::necrozma::runerigus:
Sand with looplet exca vs a BO with volcanion, aegi, Mega Lop. This is quite a MU as exca pretty much runs circles as levitate garchomp is not gonna be sufficient at taking such hits, shaymin-sky with seed flare + earth power + hurricane has a fun opportunity clicking buttons. On the opposite side we have aegi, lopunny-m, and volcanion who can always do quite a bit especially with how route closed can prevent flip turning out or using parting shot.
I think the battle played out interestingly, unfortunately land's wrath was bugged but aegi getting burnt, flower veil not being the primary ability and allowing bulu to get poisoned from hazards, and t31 not clicking return or cc definitely did not help. Necrozma was quite a nuke, with indecisive orb i bet allowing it to nuke volcanion. Even without the bug of lands wrath I think exca is way to threatening with effectively nothing to sponge vs it and aegi getting burnt.
Code:
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| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Garchomp | 3 | 50.00% | 0.00% |
| 2 | Diancie | 2 | 33.33% | 100.00% |
| 2 | Tangrowth | 2 | 33.33% | 100.00% |
| 2 | Aegislash | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 2 | Tapu Bulu | 2 | 33.33% | 0.00% |
| 2 | Terapagos | 2 | 33.33% | 0.00% |
| 2 | Volcanion | 2 | 33.33% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Tapu Fini | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Great Tusk | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Mandibuzz | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Heatran | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Melmetal | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Landorus-Therian | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Clawitzer | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Zapdos | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Tyranitar | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Shaymin-Sky | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Excadrill | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Necrozma | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Runerigus | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Deoxys-Speed | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Raging Bolt | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Mawile | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Slowking-Galar | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Kyurem | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Celesteela | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Tapu Koko | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Lopunny | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
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| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Garchomp | 5 | 27.78% | 20.00% |
| 2 | Tyranitar | 5 | 27.78% | 80.00% |
| 3 | Great Tusk | 5 | 27.78% | 40.00% |
| 4 | Zapdos | 4 | 22.22% | 75.00% |
| 5 | Gholdengo | 4 | 22.22% | 25.00% |
| 6 | Aegislash | 3 | 16.67% | 66.67% |
| 7 | Tapu Bulu | 3 | 16.67% | 33.33% |
| 8 | Volcanion | 3 | 16.67% | 33.33% |
| 9 | Excadrill | 3 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 10 | Tangrowth | 3 | 16.67% | 66.67% |
| 11 | Diancie | 3 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 12 | Heatran | 3 | 16.67% | 33.33% |
| 13 | Landorus-Therian | 3 | 16.67% | 66.67% |
| 14 | Tapu Fini | 3 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 15 | Deoxys-Speed | 3 | 16.67% | 33.33% |
| 16 | Raging Bolt | 3 | 16.67% | 33.33% |
| 17 | Golisopod | 3 | 16.67% | 66.67% |
| 18 | Zamazenta | 3 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 19 | Terapagos | 2 | 11.11% | 0.00% |
| 20 | Celesteela | 2 | 11.11% | 50.00% |
| 21 | Slowking-Galar | 2 | 11.11% | 0.00% |
| 22 | Mandibuzz | 2 | 11.11% | 100.00% |
| 23 | Ferrothorn | 2 | 11.11% | 50.00% |
| 24 | Tapu Lele | 2 | 11.11% | 50.00% |
| 25 | Lopunny | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 26 | Necrozma | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Runerigus | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 28 | Shaymin-Sky | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 29 | Clawitzer | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 30 | Melmetal | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 31 | Kyurem | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 32 | Tapu Koko | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 33 | Mawile | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 34 | Charizard | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 35 | Enamorus | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 36 | Slither Wing | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 37 | Pikachu | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 38 | Mesprit | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Metagross | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 40 | Zarude | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 41 | Azelf | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 42 | Skarmory | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 43 | Kyurem-Black | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 44 | Samurott-Hisui | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 45 | Greninja | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Manectric | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 47 | Regigigas | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 48 | Cramorant | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 49 | Floette-Eternal | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 50 | Venusaur | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 51 | Genesect-Chill | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 52 | Iron Hands | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 53 | Latias | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 54 | Umbreon | 1 | 5.56% | 0.00% |
| 55 | Glaceon | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 56 | Iron Valiant | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 57 | Kommo-o | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |
| 58 | Smeargle | 1 | 5.56% | 100.00% |II think by w3 we are seeing trends going on like exca sand being used 3 times with 100% WR alongside diancie-m, tapu fini. While some mons continue to feel less impactful like sceptile-m, goodra, pecharunt. I think a lot of trends are towards sand, and bulu/tang/golisopod balance teams. Interested to see what stuff come this week. Garchomp is used 5 times and winless so its quite a surprising thing to see
Was also thinking if anything felt stupid strong but always feels like different stuff are being brought especially with nothing having more than 30% usage by the end of week 3 in pmpl feels satisfying in a way.
Week 4
:raging bolt::tapu bulu::landorus-therian::mesprit::iron crown::tyranitar-mega: [WG] Felilou vs Runo [DD] :espeon::aegislash::landorus-therian::golisopod::tyranitar-mega::meowscarada:
Well mesprit screens loaded again, this game was pretty wild as runo just loaded laser focus aegislash in pmpl alongside espeon. While the espeon set is unknown and generally an unknown mon it did pretty ok, as it 1v1 a crown behind screens for golisopod to come in and just revenge it.
I think iron crown is a super evil pick, behind screens with WP it couldve just ran away with the game but was instead stopped by a mystical fire espeon just holding it down. There is not much to comment as its a screens team. I think runo brought some fire stuff to pmpl, espeon is another pick i never expected as i was convinced it was bad
:glaceon::golisopod::zamazenta::diancie-mega::landorus-therian::slowking-galar: [GG] Jojen vs qtfox [FF] :escavalier::runerigus::sylveon::tapu koko::lopunny-mega::skarmory:
On a glance nothing is really wrong about these teams, they look quite ordinary aside from escvalier. Well T6 its all unordinary, loading Deliquesce runerigus is already something then we see z celebrate eeveelution? I have never seen this outside of like SM NU.
The teams are also quite intersting, landorus-t + golisopod + slowking-g is quite a structural sound core it feels especially against a lot of bullshit the meta can throw at you. Diance-M + Zama-H is quite an offensive core I like, especially since zama covers the few mons that diancie might struggle against like. Runerigus + Skarmory is a huge defensive core especially with how runerigus can just take a lot of beating and has a lot of anti bullshit tools + skarm iron barbs helmet chip doing a shit ton
:tapu fini::escavalier::zapdos::slowking-galar::great tusk::sceptile-mega: [GS] Spammernoob vs HydreigonTheChild [TR] :magearna::landorus-therian::tapu fini::absol-mega::melmetal::tornadus-therian:
Escav being brought 2 times this week? This is quite something. Zap King Tusk is certainly a standard defensive core esp with sceptile-m and escav as the offense of the team. I quite like the build its going on but sceptile-m + misty terrain is a choice. Escav forcing a switch out every time it comes in is a nice trait it has on the team especially when you have fini for non HO teams.
When coming into this week I was quite scared of 2 things 1. HO 2. random bullshit spammernoob has up their ass, i guess escav is indeed pulling a rabbit out of a hat because jesus christ that thing can be scary. Magearna btw was heart swap which was specifically to snipe stuff like CM raging bolt, bulky CM self repairing magearna, and tapu fini who boosts to the moon. M absol is a mon I think that is super underrated especially with its ability to setup future sights. AV melm is a mon I adore especially with how it often can trade 1 for 1 easily.
I think by now some broken stuff have been noticed. Stuff like Fini, Screens, and Raging bolt are prob at the forefront of what is broken in this metagame, there are probably more stuff but the main target is probably going to be them the next balance patch. Zamazenta + Slowking-G are winless at 4 uses which is interesting as despite their high usage they are not doing very well right now.
:raging bolt::tapu bulu::landorus-therian::mesprit::iron crown::tyranitar-mega: [WG] Felilou vs Runo [DD] :espeon::aegislash::landorus-therian::golisopod::tyranitar-mega::meowscarada:
Well mesprit screens loaded again, this game was pretty wild as runo just loaded laser focus aegislash in pmpl alongside espeon. While the espeon set is unknown and generally an unknown mon it did pretty ok, as it 1v1 a crown behind screens for golisopod to come in and just revenge it.
I think iron crown is a super evil pick, behind screens with WP it couldve just ran away with the game but was instead stopped by a mystical fire espeon just holding it down. There is not much to comment as its a screens team. I think runo brought some fire stuff to pmpl, espeon is another pick i never expected as i was convinced it was bad
:glaceon::golisopod::zamazenta::diancie-mega::landorus-therian::slowking-galar: [GG] Jojen vs qtfox [FF] :escavalier::runerigus::sylveon::tapu koko::lopunny-mega::skarmory:
On a glance nothing is really wrong about these teams, they look quite ordinary aside from escvalier. Well T6 its all unordinary, loading Deliquesce runerigus is already something then we see z celebrate eeveelution? I have never seen this outside of like SM NU.
The teams are also quite intersting, landorus-t + golisopod + slowking-g is quite a structural sound core it feels especially against a lot of bullshit the meta can throw at you. Diance-M + Zama-H is quite an offensive core I like, especially since zama covers the few mons that diancie might struggle against like. Runerigus + Skarmory is a huge defensive core especially with how runerigus can just take a lot of beating and has a lot of anti bullshit tools + skarm iron barbs helmet chip doing a shit ton
:tapu fini::escavalier::zapdos::slowking-galar::great tusk::sceptile-mega: [GS] Spammernoob vs HydreigonTheChild [TR] :magearna::landorus-therian::tapu fini::absol-mega::melmetal::tornadus-therian:
Escav being brought 2 times this week? This is quite something. Zap King Tusk is certainly a standard defensive core esp with sceptile-m and escav as the offense of the team. I quite like the build its going on but sceptile-m + misty terrain is a choice. Escav forcing a switch out every time it comes in is a nice trait it has on the team especially when you have fini for non HO teams.
When coming into this week I was quite scared of 2 things 1. HO 2. random bullshit spammernoob has up their ass, i guess escav is indeed pulling a rabbit out of a hat because jesus christ that thing can be scary. Magearna btw was heart swap which was specifically to snipe stuff like CM raging bolt, bulky CM self repairing magearna, and tapu fini who boosts to the moon. M absol is a mon I think that is super underrated especially with its ability to setup future sights. AV melm is a mon I adore especially with how it often can trade 1 for 1 easily.
Code:
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| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Landorus-Therian | 4 | 66.67% | 50.00% |
| 2 | Escavalier | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 3 | Golisopod | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 4 | Slowking-Galar | 2 | 33.33% | 0.00% |
| 5 | Tapu Fini | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 6 | Tyranitar | 2 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 7 | Lopunny | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Runerigus | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 9 | Skarmory | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 10 | Sylveon | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 11 | Tapu Koko | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 12 | Diancie | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 13 | Glaceon | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 14 | Zamazenta | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 15 | Absol | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 16 | Magearna | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 17 | Melmetal | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 18 | Tornadus-Therian | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 19 | Great Tusk | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 20 | Sceptile | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 21 | Zapdos | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 22 | Aegislash | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 23 | Espeon | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 24 | Meowscarada | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 25 | Iron Crown | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 26 | Mesprit | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 27 | Raging Bolt | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 28 | Tapu Bulu | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
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| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Landorus-Therian | 7 | 29.17% | 57.14% |
| 2 | Tyranitar | 7 | 29.17% | 71.43% |
| 3 | Great Tusk | 6 | 25.00% | 33.33% |
| 4 | Golisopod | 5 | 20.83% | 60.00% |
| 5 | Tapu Fini | 5 | 20.83% | 80.00% |
| 6 | Zapdos | 5 | 20.83% | 60.00% |
| 7 | Garchomp | 5 | 20.83% | 20.00% |
| 8 | Diancie | 4 | 16.67% | 75.00% |
| 9 | Slowking-Galar | 4 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 10 | Zamazenta | 4 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 11 | Aegislash | 4 | 16.67% | 75.00% |
| 12 | Raging Bolt | 4 | 16.67% | 25.00% |
| 13 | Tapu Bulu | 4 | 16.67% | 25.00% |
| 14 | Gholdengo | 4 | 16.67% | 25.00% |
| 15 | Volcanion | 3 | 12.50% | 33.33% |
| 16 | Excadrill | 3 | 12.50% | 100.00% |
| 17 | Tangrowth | 3 | 12.50% | 66.67% |
| 18 | Heatran | 3 | 12.50% | 33.33% |
| 19 | Deoxys-Speed | 3 | 12.50% | 33.33% |
| 20 | Glaceon | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 21 | Escavalier | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 22 | Lopunny | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 23 | Runerigus | 2 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 24 | Skarmory | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 25 | Tapu Koko | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 26 | Melmetal | 2 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Mesprit | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 28 | Terapagos | 2 | 8.33% | 0.00% |
| 29 | Celesteela | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 30 | Mandibuzz | 2 | 8.33% | 100.00% |
| 31 | Tapu Lele | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 32 | Ferrothorn | 2 | 8.33% | 50.00% |
| 33 | Sylveon | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 34 | Sceptile | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 35 | Absol | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 36 | Magearna | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 37 | Tornadus-Therian | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 38 | Espeon | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 39 | Meowscarada | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 40 | Iron Crown | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 41 | Necrozma | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 42 | Shaymin-Sky | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 43 | Kyurem | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 44 | Clawitzer | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 45 | Mawile | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Pikachu | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 47 | Charizard | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 48 | Enamorus | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 49 | Slither Wing | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 50 | Azelf | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 51 | Metagross | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 52 | Zarude | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 53 | Samurott-Hisui | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 54 | Kyurem-Black | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 55 | Greninja | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 56 | Manectric | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 57 | Regigigas | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 58 | Cramorant | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 59 | Floette-Eternal | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 60 | Venusaur | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Genesect-Chill | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 62 | Iron Hands | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 63 | Latias | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 64 | Umbreon | 1 | 4.17% | 0.00% |
| 65 | Iron Valiant | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 66 | Kommo-o | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |
| 67 | Smeargle | 1 | 4.17% | 100.00% |I think by now some broken stuff have been noticed. Stuff like Fini, Screens, and Raging bolt are prob at the forefront of what is broken in this metagame, there are probably more stuff but the main target is probably going to be them the next balance patch. Zamazenta + Slowking-G are winless at 4 uses which is interesting as despite their high usage they are not doing very well right now.
Moves
Rock Climb
+Contact=10% Chance to confuse -> 10% chance to drop attack
Items
Dungeon's Looplet
-BanLight Clay
-BanAir Balloon / Snowball / Cell Battery / Absorb Bulb
Pops when holder is hit and raises Attack / Special Attack by 1 stage -> Pops when holder is hit (remove stat boost)Adjustments
Raging Bolt
-TwisterTapu Fini
-ComatoseAerodactyl
-Rock ClimbWell balance changes were made with the goal of targeting raging bolt, fini, and screens. Air balloon + clones gave to much value, you are already greatly rewarded with an immunity allowing pokemon like gholdengo, raging bolt, heatran to beat grounds but now you are rewarded even more for just being popped. I think it makes them far to strong, keeping their immunities while removing the stat boost keeps the sub intact while toning them down.
Tapu fini loses comatose, making it rely on misty surge for status immunity or having to drop moonlight for taunt. An indirect nerf is definitely that its targeted by dungeon looplet ban. Raging bolt losing twister means it has more counterplay in the tier as while previously fairies were immune to twister they were often special attackers and lost 1v1 to raging bolt while grounds had to go through air balloon on top of that and great tusk, lando-t just lost...
Light Clay ban is because screens is just not fun to go against or to prep against. It makes a lot of mons just way to far bulky especially already ones who just are very hard to kill. We saw how mons like raging bolt, fini, etc. Dungeon's Looplet ban is because many pokemon before this weren't balanced with a pokebilities item in mind, just makes a lot of problems much worse
Rock Climb is reverting a previous balance change that just buffed an alr better stone edge as exca can click this without fear of contact. Aero is losing it cuz it was broken with it Spammernoob
Week 5
I had stuff written down and then i lost it... I will go over this quicker than usual
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/dragonheaven-gen9glacemons-16515-nullpw
:samurott-hisui::stakataka::tangrowth::victini::landorus-therian::iron valiant:[WG] mrfraud vs presi [GG]:floette-eternal::gliscor::tyranitar-mega::zapdos::gholdengo::urshifu-rapid strike:
I think this is the first game out of the 2 stakataka appeared in, annoying fat mon with m bounce, Either way zapdos being prevented from removing hazards just led to the team being getting ran over by 3 different kinds of hazards. I think the team was super interesting esp with taunt valiant.
:zeraora::corviknight::golisopod::landorus-therian::lopunny-mega::slowking-galar: [FF] qtfox vs HydreigonTheChild [TR] :aegislash-blade::diancie-mega::garchomp::zamazenta::tangrowth::zapdos:
Crystal crown slowking-g was a super nice tech into Mega diancie just making it chip itself by attacking it, while red licorice was experimented with before it was a strange item and it did catch me off guard. Z Aegislash was something I had quite a fun building around and i liked the power boost it has esp vs beak blast skarmory, slowking-galar, garchomp, etc.
:ursaluna::stakataka::banette-mega::greninja::enamorus-therian::necrozma: [GS] Spammernoob vs Runo [DD] :medicham-mega::landorus-therian::guzzlord::genesect::zapdos::goodra:
This replay is something, a lot of niche things like enamorus-t, guzzlord, and banette-m. Banette-m being able to trade very well 1 for 1 is a very nice trait of it. Trick room was also something i know spammer ran pre pmpl so it was a funny bring from them into this match.
I had more to talk about but it got deleted... but either way it definitely feels better, wish i got to balance patches earlier not the week before playoffs. Either way a lot of unique stuff got brought and people didnt get 6-0ed by something or some mons feeling busted with pokebilites. Plan to revisit it after pmpl and figure out what we can do other than banning the item flat out, feel happy about light clay being gone.
I think the matches this week were interesting. Crystal crown and red licorice being used were interesting brings, a lot of surprise pokemon like mega banette, enamorus, stakataka, and taunt iron valiant. I had fun spectating these matches
I had stuff written down and then i lost it... I will go over this quicker than usual
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/dragonheaven-gen9glacemons-16515-nullpw
:samurott-hisui::stakataka::tangrowth::victini::landorus-therian::iron valiant:[WG] mrfraud vs presi [GG]:floette-eternal::gliscor::tyranitar-mega::zapdos::gholdengo::urshifu-rapid strike:
I think this is the first game out of the 2 stakataka appeared in, annoying fat mon with m bounce, Either way zapdos being prevented from removing hazards just led to the team being getting ran over by 3 different kinds of hazards. I think the team was super interesting esp with taunt valiant.
:zeraora::corviknight::golisopod::landorus-therian::lopunny-mega::slowking-galar: [FF] qtfox vs HydreigonTheChild [TR] :aegislash-blade::diancie-mega::garchomp::zamazenta::tangrowth::zapdos:
Crystal crown slowking-g was a super nice tech into Mega diancie just making it chip itself by attacking it, while red licorice was experimented with before it was a strange item and it did catch me off guard. Z Aegislash was something I had quite a fun building around and i liked the power boost it has esp vs beak blast skarmory, slowking-galar, garchomp, etc.
:ursaluna::stakataka::banette-mega::greninja::enamorus-therian::necrozma: [GS] Spammernoob vs Runo [DD] :medicham-mega::landorus-therian::guzzlord::genesect::zapdos::goodra:
This replay is something, a lot of niche things like enamorus-t, guzzlord, and banette-m. Banette-m being able to trade very well 1 for 1 is a very nice trait of it. Trick room was also something i know spammer ran pre pmpl so it was a funny bring from them into this match.
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| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Zapdos | 3 | 50.00% | 33.33% |
| 2 | Landorus-Therian | 3 | 50.00% | 33.33% |
| 3 | Tangrowth | 2 | 33.33% | 100.00% |
| 4 | Stakataka | 2 | 33.33% | 100.00% |
| 5 | Aegislash | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 6 | Diancie | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 7 | Garchomp | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 8 | Zamazenta | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 9 | Corviknight | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 10 | Golisopod | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 11 | Lopunny | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 12 | Slowking-Galar | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 13 | Zeraora | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 14 | Floette-Eternal | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 15 | Gholdengo | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 16 | Gliscor | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 17 | Tyranitar | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 18 | Urshifu | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 19 | Iron Valiant | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 20 | Samurott-Hisui | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 21 | Victini | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 22 | Genesect | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 23 | Goodra | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 24 | Guzzlord | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 25 | Medicham | 1 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 26 | Banette | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Enamorus-Therian | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 28 | Greninja | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 29 | Necrozma | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
| 30 | Ursaluna | 1 | 16.67% | 100.00% |
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+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Landorus-Therian | 10 | 33.33% | 50.00% |
| 2 | Zapdos | 8 | 26.67% | 50.00% |
| 3 | Tyranitar | 8 | 26.67% | 62.50% |
| 4 | Garchomp | 6 | 20.00% | 33.33% |
| 5 | Golisopod | 6 | 20.00% | 50.00% |
| 6 | Great Tusk | 6 | 20.00% | 33.33% |
| 7 | Aegislash | 5 | 16.67% | 80.00% |
| 8 | Diancie | 5 | 16.67% | 80.00% |
| 9 | Tangrowth | 5 | 16.67% | 80.00% |
| 10 | Zamazenta | 5 | 16.67% | 20.00% |
| 11 | Slowking-Galar | 5 | 16.67% | 0.00% |
| 12 | Gholdengo | 5 | 16.67% | 20.00% |
| 13 | Tapu Fini | 5 | 16.67% | 80.00% |
| 14 | Raging Bolt | 4 | 13.33% | 25.00% |
| 15 | Tapu Bulu | 4 | 13.33% | 25.00% |
| 16 | Lopunny | 3 | 10.00% | 33.33% |
| 17 | Excadrill | 3 | 10.00% | 100.00% |
| 18 | Volcanion | 3 | 10.00% | 33.33% |
| 19 | Heatran | 3 | 10.00% | 33.33% |
| 20 | Deoxys-Speed | 3 | 10.00% | 33.33% |
| 21 | Iron Valiant | 2 | 6.67% | 100.00% |
| 22 | Samurott-Hisui | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 23 | Stakataka | 2 | 6.67% | 100.00% |
| 24 | Floette-Eternal | 2 | 6.67% | 0.00% |
| 25 | Greninja | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 26 | Necrozma | 2 | 6.67% | 100.00% |
| 27 | Escavalier | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 28 | Runerigus | 2 | 6.67% | 100.00% |
| 29 | Skarmory | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 30 | Tapu Koko | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 31 | Glaceon | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 32 | Melmetal | 2 | 6.67% | 100.00% |
| 33 | Mesprit | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 34 | Terapagos | 2 | 6.67% | 0.00% |
| 35 | Celesteela | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 36 | Mandibuzz | 2 | 6.67% | 100.00% |
| 37 | Tapu Lele | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 38 | Ferrothorn | 2 | 6.67% | 50.00% |
| 39 | Corviknight | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 40 | Zeraora | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 41 | Victini | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 42 | Gliscor | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 43 | Urshifu | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 44 | Banette | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 45 | Enamorus-Therian | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 46 | Ursaluna | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 47 | Genesect | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 48 | Goodra | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 49 | Guzzlord | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 50 | Medicham | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 51 | Sylveon | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 52 | Absol | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 53 | Magearna | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 54 | Tornadus-Therian | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 55 | Sceptile | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 56 | Espeon | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 57 | Meowscarada | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 58 | Iron Crown | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 59 | Shaymin-Sky | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 60 | Kyurem | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 61 | Clawitzer | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 62 | Mawile | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 63 | Pikachu | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 64 | Charizard | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 65 | Enamorus | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 66 | Slither Wing | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 67 | Azelf | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 68 | Metagross | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 69 | Zarude | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 70 | Kyurem-Black | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 71 | Manectric | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 72 | Regigigas | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 73 | Cramorant | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 74 | Venusaur | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 75 | Kommo-o | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 76 | Smeargle | 1 | 3.33% | 100.00% |
| 77 | Genesect-Chill | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 78 | Iron Hands | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 79 | Latias | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |
| 80 | Umbreon | 1 | 3.33% | 0.00% |I had more to talk about but it got deleted... but either way it definitely feels better, wish i got to balance patches earlier not the week before playoffs. Either way a lot of unique stuff got brought and people didnt get 6-0ed by something or some mons feeling busted with pokebilites. Plan to revisit it after pmpl and figure out what we can do other than banning the item flat out, feel happy about light clay being gone.
I think the matches this week were interesting. Crystal crown and red licorice being used were interesting brings, a lot of surprise pokemon like mega banette, enamorus, stakataka, and taunt iron valiant. I had fun spectating these matches
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w2: https://pokepast.es/84f63cc2772fc4ac (W)
w3: https://pokepast.es/3787d4cfb5e2d562 (W)
w4: https://pokepast.es/3860ead1145c08fe (W)
w5: https://pokepast.es/2bc1f576085bb627 (L)
I mishandled week 5's game towards the end of it. Nobody bats 100% tho, especially when I was goading Spammernoob into making a Schizobuild. Week 4 was peak Schizobuilding for me but lemme tell you, Laser Focus was for Zapdos not the screens matchup. Overall fun (funny) tier. I probably would've enjoyed it with or without mid-tour balance changes. Probably won't play it again if presented an alternative option but it was honestly not that bad. s/o to Noglastica and zxgzxg for building help and spammer for testing in prior weeks.
e: i would seriously put Aegislash and Garchomp under a microscope
w3: https://pokepast.es/3787d4cfb5e2d562 (W)
w4: https://pokepast.es/3860ead1145c08fe (W)
w5: https://pokepast.es/2bc1f576085bb627 (L)
I mishandled week 5's game towards the end of it. Nobody bats 100% tho, especially when I was goading Spammernoob into making a Schizobuild. Week 4 was peak Schizobuilding for me but lemme tell you, Laser Focus was for Zapdos not the screens matchup. Overall fun (funny) tier. I probably would've enjoyed it with or without mid-tour balance changes. Probably won't play it again if presented an alternative option but it was honestly not that bad. s/o to Noglastica and zxgzxg for building help and spammer for testing in prior weeks.
e: i would seriously put Aegislash and Garchomp under a microscope
Since gourgs are eliminated I'll dump the teams I personally used here:
Week 1 - Smeargle webs ho (W)
:smeargle: :glaceon: :gholdengo: :kommo-o: :iron valiant: :tyranitar-mega:
made by me + help of gourgs
Week 3 - ExcaSkymin sand (W)
:tyranitar: :shaymin-sky: :excadrill: :tangrowth: :necrozma: :runerigus:
made by gourgs
Week 4 - Mesprit screens HO wp iron crown (L)
:raging bolt: :tapu bulu: :landorus-therian: :mesprit: :iron crown: :tyranitar-mega:
made by ihbst and improved by gourgs
Semifinals - SPEEDBLITZ (W)
:meowscarada: :slowking-galar: :rotom-wash: :ninjask: :aegislash: :great tusk:
made by ihbst mostly
Week 3 I genuienly panicked when Runo pulled the evil laser focus tech (which i could have encored)
I also wish that I could have used glaceon more but I think me using glaceon would have been too predictable.
Thanks go out to the gourgs and especially anaconja ihbst and mrfraud for the great support
Whereever ana heared that I could be a good glacemons slot be blessed
There are a lot of underappreciated mons in this tier and it was great to be able to play glacemons. Glaceon feels really good in this tier aegislash is annoying and rip dungeons looplet.
Here is also my beloved glaceon vstar good luck charm
hope i didnt forget anything....
Week 1 - Smeargle webs ho (W)
:smeargle: :glaceon: :gholdengo: :kommo-o: :iron valiant: :tyranitar-mega:
made by me + help of gourgs
Week 3 - ExcaSkymin sand (W)
:tyranitar: :shaymin-sky: :excadrill: :tangrowth: :necrozma: :runerigus:
made by gourgs
Week 4 - Mesprit screens HO wp iron crown (L)
:raging bolt: :tapu bulu: :landorus-therian: :mesprit: :iron crown: :tyranitar-mega:
made by ihbst and improved by gourgs
Semifinals - SPEEDBLITZ (W)
:meowscarada: :slowking-galar: :rotom-wash: :ninjask: :aegislash: :great tusk:
made by ihbst mostly
Week 3 I genuienly panicked when Runo pulled the evil laser focus tech (which i could have encored)
I also wish that I could have used glaceon more but I think me using glaceon would have been too predictable.
Thanks go out to the gourgs and especially anaconja ihbst and mrfraud for the great support
Whereever ana heared that I could be a good glacemons slot be blessed
There are a lot of underappreciated mons in this tier and it was great to be able to play glacemons. Glaceon feels really good in this tier aegislash is annoying and rip dungeons looplet.
Here is also my beloved glaceon vstar good luck charm
hope i didnt forget anything....
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:meowscarada::slowking-galar::ninjask::rotom-wash::aegislash-blade::great tusk: [WG] Felilou vs Jojen [GG] :glaceon::iron valiant::aegislash-blade::slowbro::zeraora::garchomp:
Well game 1 of semifinals. Both teams are very balance - balance offense like so it feels quite nice to see instead of screens. We see ninjask's first apperance in the PMPL and I have always seen it be used by some niche uses so it was nice to see velocity get used. We have a volt turn style team and a future sight beatdown team at a glance. I like how the teams defensive core is quite similar with aegi + ground + pivot + sp def wall.
This was such a cool ninjask showcase in game how velocity allows ninjask to act have a power level in addition to not caring about its own drops. T spikes being brought is something and did bring value.
:heatran::golisopod::tapu bulu::iron thorns::great tusk::lopunny-mega: [FF] qtfox vs HydreigonTheChild [TR] :garchomp-mega::tangrowth::gholdengo::great tusk::tapu lele::zapdos:
Had some ideas going into this week of wanting to use M chomp after seeing the scout and it was quite good, building around Z lele was also something i wanted to try esp how it does in nat dex and i feel its such a good nuclear bomb in the tier. Tang + Ground + Smth like zapdos/torn/mandi has always been a fun core to use in game.
And we have a surprise bring in iron thorns, balloon heatran, and Mega lop. In theory iron thorns should be able to setup vs great tusk as it stone walls it and setup a shift gear and it would sweep esp once tang eats some chip.
Now with going into semi finals there is a lot more trends going into BO and balance compared to HO stuff going on with sand / screens before this. It feels better but survey will come out after finals to gauge results so watch out for that and potential targets for balance could be there as well (it would be fun if you could share what mons u feel should be targetted)
Well game 1 of semifinals. Both teams are very balance - balance offense like so it feels quite nice to see instead of screens. We see ninjask's first apperance in the PMPL and I have always seen it be used by some niche uses so it was nice to see velocity get used. We have a volt turn style team and a future sight beatdown team at a glance. I like how the teams defensive core is quite similar with aegi + ground + pivot + sp def wall.
This was such a cool ninjask showcase in game how velocity allows ninjask to act have a power level in addition to not caring about its own drops. T spikes being brought is something and did bring value.
:heatran::golisopod::tapu bulu::iron thorns::great tusk::lopunny-mega: [FF] qtfox vs HydreigonTheChild [TR] :garchomp-mega::tangrowth::gholdengo::great tusk::tapu lele::zapdos:
Had some ideas going into this week of wanting to use M chomp after seeing the scout and it was quite good, building around Z lele was also something i wanted to try esp how it does in nat dex and i feel its such a good nuclear bomb in the tier. Tang + Ground + Smth like zapdos/torn/mandi has always been a fun core to use in game.
And we have a surprise bring in iron thorns, balloon heatran, and Mega lop. In theory iron thorns should be able to setup vs great tusk as it stone walls it and setup a shift gear and it would sweep esp once tang eats some chip.
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| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Great Tusk | 3 | 75.00% | 66.67% |
| 2 | Aegislash | 2 | 50.00% | 50.00% |
| 3 | Garchomp | 2 | 50.00% | 50.00% |
| 4 | Glaceon | 1 | 25.00% | 0.00% |
| 5 | Iron Valiant | 1 | 25.00% | 0.00% |
| 6 | Slowbro | 1 | 25.00% | 0.00% |
| 7 | Zeraora | 1 | 25.00% | 0.00% |
| 8 | Meowscarada | 1 | 25.00% | 100.00% |
| 9 | Ninjask | 1 | 25.00% | 100.00% |
| 10 | Rotom-Wash | 1 | 25.00% | 100.00% |
| 11 | Slowking-Galar | 1 | 25.00% | 100.00% |
| 12 | Gholdengo | 1 | 25.00% | 100.00% |
| 13 | Tangrowth | 1 | 25.00% | 100.00% |
| 14 | Tapu Lele | 1 | 25.00% | 100.00% |
| 15 | Zapdos | 1 | 25.00% | 100.00% |
| 16 | Golisopod | 1 | 25.00% | 0.00% |
| 17 | Heatran | 1 | 25.00% | 0.00% |
| 18 | Iron Thorns | 1 | 25.00% | 0.00% |
| 19 | Lopunny | 1 | 25.00% | 0.00% |
| 20 | Tapu Bulu | 1 | 25.00% | 0.00% |
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| Rank | Pokemon | Use | Usage % | Win % |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1 | Landorus-Therian | 10 | 29.41% | 50.00% |
| 2 | Great Tusk | 9 | 26.47% | 44.44% |
| 3 | Zapdos | 9 | 26.47% | 55.56% |
| 4 | Garchomp | 8 | 23.53% | 37.50% |
| 5 | Tyranitar | 8 | 23.53% | 62.50% |
| 6 | Aegislash | 7 | 20.59% | 71.43% |
| 7 | Golisopod | 7 | 20.59% | 42.86% |
| 8 | Slowking-Galar | 6 | 17.65% | 16.67% |
| 9 | Gholdengo | 6 | 17.65% | 33.33% |
| 10 | Tangrowth | 6 | 17.65% | 83.33% |
| 11 | Tapu Bulu | 5 | 14.71% | 20.00% |
| 12 | Diancie | 5 | 14.71% | 80.00% |
| 13 | Zamazenta | 5 | 14.71% | 20.00% |
| 14 | Tapu Fini | 5 | 14.71% | 80.00% |
| 15 | Heatran | 4 | 11.76% | 25.00% |
| 16 | Lopunny | 4 | 11.76% | 25.00% |
| 17 | Raging Bolt | 4 | 11.76% | 25.00% |
| 18 | Glaceon | 3 | 8.82% | 33.33% |
| 19 | Iron Valiant | 3 | 8.82% | 66.67% |
| 20 | Tapu Lele | 3 | 8.82% | 66.67% |
| 21 | Volcanion | 3 | 8.82% | 33.33% |
| 22 | Excadrill | 3 | 8.82% | 100.00% |
| 23 | Deoxys-Speed | 3 | 8.82% | 33.33% |
| 24 | Meowscarada | 2 | 5.88% | 100.00% |
| 25 | Zeraora | 2 | 5.88% | 0.00% |
| 26 | Samurott-Hisui | 2 | 5.88% | 50.00% |
| 27 | Stakataka | 2 | 5.88% | 100.00% |
| 28 | Floette-Eternal | 2 | 5.88% | 0.00% |
| 29 | Greninja | 2 | 5.88% | 50.00% |
| 30 | Necrozma | 2 | 5.88% | 100.00% |
| 31 | Escavalier | 2 | 5.88% | 50.00% |
| 32 | Runerigus | 2 | 5.88% | 100.00% |
| 33 | Skarmory | 2 | 5.88% | 50.00% |
| 34 | Tapu Koko | 2 | 5.88% | 50.00% |
| 35 | Melmetal | 2 | 5.88% | 100.00% |
| 36 | Mesprit | 2 | 5.88% | 50.00% |
| 37 | Terapagos | 2 | 5.88% | 0.00% |
| 38 | Celesteela | 2 | 5.88% | 50.00% |
| 39 | Mandibuzz | 2 | 5.88% | 100.00% |
| 40 | Ferrothorn | 2 | 5.88% | 50.00% |
| 41 | Ninjask | 1 | 2.94% | 100.00% |
| 42 | Rotom-Wash | 1 | 2.94% | 100.00% |
| 43 | Slowbro | 1 | 2.94% | 0.00% |
| 44 | Iron Thorns | 1 | 2.94% | 0.00% |
| 45 | Corviknight | 1 | 2.94% | 0.00% |
| 46 | Victini | 1 | 2.94% | 100.00% |
| 47 | Gliscor | 1 | 2.94% | 0.00% |
| 48 | Urshifu | 1 | 2.94% | 0.00% |
| 49 | Genesect | 1 | 2.94% | 0.00% |
| 50 | Goodra | 1 | 2.94% | 0.00% |
| 51 | Guzzlord | 1 | 2.94% | 0.00% |
| 52 | Medicham | 1 | 2.94% | 0.00% |
| 53 | Banette | 1 | 2.94% | 100.00% |
| 54 | Enamorus-Therian | 1 | 2.94% | 100.00% |
| 55 | Ursaluna | 1 | 2.94% | 100.00% |
| 56 | Sylveon | 1 | 2.94% | 100.00% |
| 57 | Absol | 1 | 2.94% | 100.00% |
| 58 | Magearna | 1 | 2.94% | 100.00% |
| 59 | Tornadus-Therian | 1 | 2.94% | 100.00% |Now with going into semi finals there is a lot more trends going into BO and balance compared to HO stuff going on with sand / screens before this. It feels better but survey will come out after finals to gauge results so watch out for that and potential targets for balance could be there as well (it would be fun if you could share what mons u feel should be targetted)
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I have a survey that i wanted to send to you people who played glacemons, tested, or followed it throughout pmpl
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I have a survey that i wanted to send to you people who played glacemons, tested, or followed it throughout pmpl
LOOR
Spammernoob
presi
solrock the great
Felilou
qtfox
mrfraud
If you know any others it would also be nice if you answer
Moves
Items
Dungeon's Looplet
Now has a 5 turn perish counter.
Speeding Ticket
the move fails and the attacker is forced to switch out -> the move fails and the attacker is forced to switch to a random ally.
Abilities
Stance Change
heals 1/8 max HP before King's Shield -> heals 1/16 max HP on successful uses of King's Shield
Adjustments
Garchomp
-Levitate
+Sand Force
Tapu Fini
+Natural Cure
Items
Dungeon's Looplet
Now has a 5 turn perish counter.
Speeding Ticket
the move fails and the attacker is forced to switch out -> the move fails and the attacker is forced to switch to a random ally.
Abilities
Stance Change
heals 1/8 max HP before King's Shield -> heals 1/16 max HP on successful uses of King's Shield
Adjustments
Garchomp
-Levitate
+Sand Force
Tapu Fini
+Natural Cure
Well.. balance changes are a bit late but I wanted to seperate them into 2 things. First the nerfs / stuff i said I would do post pmpl. Stance Change, Garchomp, Dungeon's Looplet are all targets of nerfs this patch as they were the major stands out. Dungeon Looplet is getting a perish counter to limit how well bulky setup sweepers can sit in a match and setup. I think 5 turns is fine as something like reflect / light screen feel so short without light clay so i felt it was a good number to choose. Garchomp choosing levitate will make it easier esp when it has many immunities / to many advantages esp when it chooses items like snowball to give itself 3 immunities. Aegislash healing nerf is to make it so it so it has some part of it remaining but now it will not heal like 20% health on one use, in addition just for clicking it on switch out and gaining ~40% health.
All tapu's had 3 abilities so just gave one to it that is much weaker than comatose esp to one that was a common setup sweeper and will still cause status to stop it in addition to the looplet nerf. Speeding ticket is so ass esp when it basically gives ur opp an eject button instead of a red card which just allows them to reposition.
A balance patch may be done to buff the truly bad stuff in the future.
While I prob wont do a tier list update esp after balance changes I am prob gonna put where stuff might happen esp after the PMPL trends. Well Stuff like :pecharunt::ogerpon-wellspring::umbreon::shaymin::tauros-paldea-combat: + other forms ofc the sample size is small but more so i feel that they def dont do much and i feel esp after some trends arent doing well
Some trends upwards I feel are :zarude::tangrowth::garchomp-mega::cramorant::excadrill: are stuff that I feel had a much better showing in comparison.
[TR] :cramorant::slowking-galar::skarmory::garchomp-mega::zeraora::azelf: HydreigonTheChild vs Jojen :manectric-mega::aegislash-blade::aerodactyl::iron valiant::tangrowth::great tusk: [GG]
Surprising team by jojen, bringing a base aero into finals was certainly something you would not expect esp with so much on the line but it did well. I think the main stars of this were mega manectric and how it basically was nuking my phys. def slowking-galar into the ground, while zeraora getting burnt sucked it prob wouldnt have changed how much work it wouldve done in this match.
Going into the finals I had SD Garchomp-M was a pokemon I had a lot of fun testing with, it can really setup and run away especially against teams that rely on stuff such as gliscor, golisopod, and was generally something I had a lot of fun screwing around with. Cramorant was another Pokemon that was amazing to test with especially with the fact of its ability to be very annoying with the water fire lash.
Base aero coming in and spamming stone edge was quite something, it put in a lot of work for something you would not expect, maybe in different circumstances it would just get PP stalled but stone edge has that quirk of being god or just whiffing. It was fun to prep in tour, i had a lot of fun loading funny teams
W1: https://pokepast.es/0f52d870e384bd16
W2: https://pokepast.es/d4e315fffe303705
W3: https://pokepast.es/d2448be22e9e016d
W4: https://pokepast.es/27e484ed5589d5fd
W5: https://pokepast.es/9d81457707a7f49f
Semifinals: https://pokepast.es/256ae4b5c844eea6
Finals: https://pokepast.es/e57fd530e091839a
Some trends upwards I feel are :zarude::tangrowth::garchomp-mega::cramorant::excadrill: are stuff that I feel had a much better showing in comparison.
Prob gonna check what samples are affected by the changes but idt many will be significantly changed. Was also thinking of hosting some maybe tours in the future but i will more so check if i have time for that
[TR] :cramorant::slowking-galar::skarmory::garchomp-mega::zeraora::azelf: HydreigonTheChild vs Jojen :manectric-mega::aegislash-blade::aerodactyl::iron valiant::tangrowth::great tusk: [GG]
Surprising team by jojen, bringing a base aero into finals was certainly something you would not expect esp with so much on the line but it did well. I think the main stars of this were mega manectric and how it basically was nuking my phys. def slowking-galar into the ground, while zeraora getting burnt sucked it prob wouldnt have changed how much work it wouldve done in this match.
Going into the finals I had SD Garchomp-M was a pokemon I had a lot of fun testing with, it can really setup and run away especially against teams that rely on stuff such as gliscor, golisopod, and was generally something I had a lot of fun screwing around with. Cramorant was another Pokemon that was amazing to test with especially with the fact of its ability to be very annoying with the water fire lash.
Base aero coming in and spamming stone edge was quite something, it put in a lot of work for something you would not expect, maybe in different circumstances it would just get PP stalled but stone edge has that quirk of being god or just whiffing. It was fun to prep in tour, i had a lot of fun loading funny teams
W1: https://pokepast.es/0f52d870e384bd16
W2: https://pokepast.es/d4e315fffe303705
W3: https://pokepast.es/d2448be22e9e016d
W4: https://pokepast.es/27e484ed5589d5fd
W5: https://pokepast.es/9d81457707a7f49f
Semifinals: https://pokepast.es/256ae4b5c844eea6
Finals: https://pokepast.es/e57fd530e091839a
Hi yall! Been getting into this bc the tier seems extremely fun and all the new options tickle my teambuilding brain in just the right way. Was wondering how lando t and golisopod work though, i know theyre top tiers but with how absurd some of the mons here are (looking at you regigigas) i was wondering what sort of secret sauce they were packing other than the obvious u turn shenanigans
(Also if yalld like i can send some of my untested teams so yall can see how on crack i am :sob:)
(Also if yalld like i can send some of my untested teams so yall can see how on crack i am :sob:)