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overlord

lucario@ focus band modest
evs-252sp.attack/speed, 6hp
inner focus
dark pulse
dragon pulse
aura sphere
vacuum wave

lucario is my special sweeper. dark pulse for Azelf, Uxie, and other annoying psychics. dragon pulse for dragons. aura sphere for STAB. vacuum wave for weavile and revenge kills. Also should i go with focus sash or focus band on lucario? sash holds the risk of being nullified by stealth rock and spikes, but band doesn't always work. speaking of which how often does focus band activate?

Metagross@lum berry
Adamant
evs-252hp, 240attack, 18 def
clear body
meteor mash
earthquake
brick break???
bullet punch

Metagross is my tank. he can take an earthquake from garchomp and then, if his luck holds out, meteor mash and bullet punch on the next turn for a K.O. brick break is questionable. i may go with Zen headbut for better coverage but idk. earthquake is for other steel types.

togekiss@lefties or lum berry
Modest
evs-252 hp, 100 spd, 152 sp.def
serene grace
air slash
nasty plot
flamethrower
aura sphere

another special sweeper. air slash is very annoying to others because of the 60% flinch rate. aura sphere for rhyperiors and other rock types. flamethrower for skarmory. Nasty plot for the welcome stat boost.

Umbreon@leftovers
Calm/careful
evs- 252 hp, 159sp.def ,89 def
toxic
meanlook
protect
wish

my fantastic toxistaller. wish and protect for immediate healing. i elected not to use baton pass because most of my pokes are sturdy enough to take a hit.

Aerodactyl@choice band/scarf
adamant
evs-252 attack, speed
ice fang
earthquake
rockslide
aerial ace

aerial ace for heracross. ice fang for dragons. earthquake for other rock types. rockslide for flyers. phenomenal speed with choice band could ko many many pokes. However, a choice scarfed garchomp can outrun me so i was thinking of switching to the scarf for extra speed.



Breloom@toxic orb
Jolly
evs-252 attack/speed 6 hp
mach punch
spore
seed bomb
focus punch



breloom is beastly and i love it. mach punch is for speedy ice types(weavile) spore is for 100% sleep accuracy. seed bomb for bulky waters and focus punch after spore for major damage. i went with jolly because my goal is to put the foe to sleep and go from there, but i will usually have to hit first because breloom is so fragile. mach punch and focus punch is redundant i know but it seems neccesary for revenge kills.

Thank you for your time. please help. i know about my ice type weakness but all of the pokes on my team with ice type weakness can trump ice types (i.e. aerodactyl-rockslide, breloom-mach punch, togekiss- aura sphere):happybrain:
 
umm if you dont have something nice to say dont say anything at all. idk what you have against that guy but thats u guys problems
 
oh by the way togekiss kills mamo and walrein with aura sphere and breloom does the same with focus punch. maybe that guy wuz riht...
 
Uhm..I fail? I wasn't being rude, but if that is what I come off as, then I am truely sorry.

Yah, I have no idea what that guys problem is Overlord =(

If you think about it, Mamoswine can use Ice Shard and that really hurts your Togekiss, you might be able to revenge it though. Another thing is that Hail teas could be a slight problem for you. Hmm, let me see if we can fix that...

Your Togekiss has Flamethrower, but i'm not too sure if that's reliable enough due to Ice shard.

Who is your lead? Once I know that I can help a little bit better.


Oh, and I think that you need to put
to mkake your trainer card appear. I am not 100% sure though.
 
thanks for the clarification darkartisan. a i see wut u mean. if worst comes to worst i could switch to metagross and meteor mash then bullet punch for the K.O. my gross can take an earthquake from mamoswine i think... it can take one from garchomp. Ollie i dont really undesrtand u. i understand that they are weak against ice but they have attacks that can destroy ice types.
 
overlord said:
does any1 know how to make that darn trainer card show up?
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darkartisan said:
Oh, and I think that you need to put
to mkake your trainer card appear. I am not 100% sure though.
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You need a badge to make images appear in sigs.

Sorry I can't be more help with the actual team! :S

EDIT: Meta can't really switch in on Mamo as it won't take two Earthquakes at all and CB EQ's going to do a really large number.
 
overlord said:
thanks for the clarification darkartisan. a i see wut u mean. if worst comes to worst i could switch to metagross and meteor mash then bullet punch for the K.O. my gross can take an earthquake from mamoswine i think... it can take one from garchomp. Ollie i dont really undesrtand u. i understand that they are weak against ice but they have attacks that can destroy ice types.
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I believe what he means is that a team with a weakness to one type isn't too beneficial at all. You could throw a Bronzong or Weezing on your team to help take hits from ice pokemon. Metagross and Lucario are wrecked by earthquake, so that's something that you should consider. Snorlax can take special hits quite well, and with the ability thick fat he halves ice and fire damage.

You could use the Curselax, who can be a sweeper if used correctly, or you can go with my preronal favorite, the resTalker.

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Sassy Nature
Evs: 244 Hp/ 28 Def/ 236 Spd
RestSleep Talk
Body Slam(gets STAB and works well with Paralyzation)
Fire blast/ Earthquake/ Crunch

This set helps take special hits, and honestly I do think that you need a wall
or two
 
but if all goes to plan i wouldnt send in gross right after lucario got wrecked, id send in togekiss, or maybe breloom. thank u so much for ur suggestion i will definately consider it.
 
overlord said:
Ollie i dont really undesrtand u. i understand that they are weak against ice but they have attacks that can destroy ice types.
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and I don't understand you overlord.

Are you saying that a CB Ice Shard is not important to consider?
CB adamant ice shard from mamoswine:
61.23% - 72.19% (togekiss)

62.04% - 72.84% (breloom)

oh and BTW, it take into consideration max Def/HP,which is almost never used.

Oh and for your breloom, it does 100.77% - 118.77%.
 
i wouldnt switch meta into an earthquake. i would either sacrifice my poke that is in the field or switch to someone who resists equake. i also luv the fact that lucario can dark pulse azelf while it does sumthing and then ko it second turn with vacuum wave and it cant do crap. *yay*
 
i know but i am faster than swine so look at this scenario. mamoswine switches in on breloom. breloom uses mach punch. mamo kos breloom wit ice shard. i send in metagross i ko it with meteor mash/bullet punch. or lucario vacuum wave.
 
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overlord said:
lucario@ Choice Specs modest
evs-252sp.attack/speed, 6hp
Steadfast
dark pulse
dragon pulse/Hp Ice
aura sphere
vacuum wave

lucario is my special sweeper. dark pulse for Azelf, Uxie, and other annoying psychics. dragon pulse for dragons. aura sphere for STAB. vacuum wave for weavile and revenge kills. Also should i go with focus sash or focus band on lucario? sash holds the risk of being nullified by stealth rock and spikes, but band doesn't always work. speaking of which how often does focus band activate?

If this is for Shoddy, I would recommend Hp Ice to hit the Dragons for more damage, which is why you would use Dragon Pulse in the first place. Specs for more power, and Focus Band has only a 10% chance to work. Also, Lucario's not that great a lead to begin with, I would suggest changing it for Aerodactyl. More on Aero later however.
Metagross@Choice Band
Adamant
EVs: 252 Hp, 244 Attack, 12 Def
clear body
meteor mash
earthquake
Explosion/Thunderpunch
bullet punch

Metagross is my tank. he can take an earthquake from garchomp and then, if his luck holds out, meteor mash and bullet punch on the next turn for a K.O. brick break is questionable. i may go with Zen headbut for better coverage but idk. earthquake is for other steel types.

CB Gross is an amazing late game clean-up, or mid-game sponge. You have a choice of Explosion or Thunderpunch in the third slot, but I would recommend Thunderpunch for Gyarados, because you don't have much else to deal with it. However, You could also do Explosion over Bullet Punch if you feel comfortable with how your team deals with Gengar and Aerodactyl.

togekiss@lefties
Calm
evs-252 hp, 252 sp.def, 4 SpA or Speed
serene grace
Air Slash
Wish
Encore
Aura Sphere

another special sweeper. air slash is very annoying to others because of the 60% flinch rate. aura sphere for rhyperiors and other rock types. flamethrower for skarmory. Nasty plot for the welcome stat boost.

This is actually better as a special tank/annoyer. Encore screws up soooo many pokemon who try to set up on you. Wish is so you can get rid of Umbreon, Air Slash and Aura Sphere for coverage.

Umbreon@leftovers
Calm/careful
evs- 252 hp, 159sp.def ,89 def
toxic
meanlook
protect
wish

my fantastic toxistaller. wish and protect for immediate healing. i elected not to use baton pass because most of my pokes are sturdy enough to take a hit.
This really doesn't do much except add to your fighting weakness. Those defenses may look nice now, but when it's your last pokemon, you won't like it very much, as it can't do anything really.
Swap it out for a physical wall. I suggest a Mixpert in it's place. Swampert is quite underrated as a wall, and would work well with your team.
Swampert@Leftovers
Relaxed
240 hp/216 def/56 spA
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Surf
Roar

 Aerodactyl@Focus Sash
Jolly
evs-4 Hp, 252 attack, speed
Taunt
Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Rock Slide

aerial ace for heracross. ice fang for dragons. earthquake for other rock types. rockslide for flyers. phenomenal speed with choice band could ko many many pokes. However, a choice scarfed garchomp can outrun me so i was thinking of switching to the scarf for extra speed.
This should be your lead. This sets up rocks fast, and taunts other set-up leads who try to mess with you. Borrowed from Husk.


Breloom@toxic orb
Adamant
evs-44 hp/252 att/216 speed
mach punch/Stone Edge
spore
seed bomb
focus punch

breloom is beastly and i love it. mach punch is for speedy ice types(weavile) spore is for 100% sleep accuracy. seed bomb for bulky waters and focus punch after spore for major damage. i went with jolly because my goal is to put the foe to sleep and go from there, but i will usually have to hit first because breloom is so fragile. mach punch and focus punch is redundant i know but it seems neccesary for revenge kills.

Looks good, fixed the evs and nature. You could also run Stone Edge over Mach Punch for flyers if you wish.

Thank you for your time. please help. i know about my ice type weakness but all of the pokes on my team with ice type weakness can trump ice types (i.e. aerodactyl-rockslide, breloom-mach punch, togekiss- aura sphere):happybrain:
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Hmm... said:
:chaos:

STOP RATING TEAMS YOU FUCKING FAIL!
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Please, don't flame.
 
overlord said:
i know but i am faster than swine so look at this scenario. mamoswine switches in on breloom. breloom uses mach punch. mamo kos breloom wit ice shard. i send in metagross i ko it with meteor mash/bullet punch. or lucario vacuum wave.
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Okay, after I killed Breloom, I would switch in to something safer, that counters your Metagross.

Oh and please for the love of God, stop double posting!!
 
uhm...Going to what Olie said, listen to him Overlord. Ice shard is a priority move that means that it attacks first unless you use a priority move and outspeed him. I'm not too sure if you are new to battling or not, but sacrificing as agame plan isn't a good way to play imo.

everything Tennisace said is also very true. Mixpert would actually be good, I was thinking lax, but I think mixpert would be much more beneficial to your team.
 
regarding tennascice:

lucario s good because it kills legendary lake leads and gengar. it also works fine with bronzong. i will keep sash though.

breloom is better jolly because if it takes a hit before it spores then its kinda screwed. i mean all of its attacks have really high base damage anyway and breloom already has great attack i dont need adamant.

i am hesitant to put aero as my lead because i really hate late game heracross sweeps.

thnx for the togekiss suggestion

thnx for swampert
 
Normally, Lax would be fine. However, in this case, it adds a fighting weak and special sponge to an already fighting weak team who has a normal-type special sponge.
 
Substitute > Mach Punch on Breloom, mach punch is a great move on him but the focus punching set absolutely needs substitute to function properly.

Replace Lucario's focus band with choice specs, and make him timid. If you lead with him you need to fix that, no lucario set is really that amazing of a lead.

Thunderpunch in your unknown metagross moveslot, otherwise gyarados completely walls him and will get a free dd boost from the forced switch.

I suggest trying replacing protect with Baton Pass on Umbreon, passing mean look to counters really makes life a lot easier.

Aerodactyl should probably go in the lead slot if he's not there already. Don't scarf aerodactyl, Garchomp pulls the scarf off better. Band is generally the better choice unless you're trying to make it a deoxys - s revenge killer, but Scarfgar does that much better and metagross pretty much has deoxys covered on this team.

Leftovers are probably the better choice on Kiss.

If you want a mammo counter I'd suggest taking out Aerodactyl or Breloom before anything else, Bronzong is the best choice imo, as it can play a strong support role, act as a lead, resists/is immune to every attack swine carries and best of all, threatens a KO with a super effective Gyro Ball. Watch out for Magnezone though, the magnet rise sets will kill any zong.
 
ok so for clarification.

mixpert over umbreon- would this clear up the whole mamoswine problem?
and mach punch is also a priority move(idk how much damage it would do to mamoswine though)

im sorry for all the double posts i just keep thinking of stuff.
and im not really that new to battling. i just havent battled in like a year because we changed our security setting on wifi to WPA which isn't compatable with the DS. If any1 has a solution to this problem PLEASE tell me about it.

p.s. my parents wont let me change the security to WEP so thats out.

also thanks for the mamo advice
 
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