My first team

[Lein]

Before I post my team, I want to say that I am very new to competitive battling and I have never had a competitive battle before, so my team might be bad or I might of made some bad mistakes while planning it. Please tell me if I did anything stupid and just rate it in general. One last note, I don't like using super popular pokemon like salamance, garchomp, metagross, etc, so don't advise me to.

My team:

Roserade @Focus sash
Timid
252 SpA/ 252 Spe/ 4 HP
Natural Cure
-Sleep powder
-Toxic spikes
-Left storm
-HP fire

Roserade will be my lead pokemon. She'll put the opposing pokemon to sleep and start putting up toxic spikes. HP fire is for steel/poison pokemon who switch in to the toxic spikes, like rapid spin forrestress. Leaf storm is there just to have a STAB move to attack waters with, such as milotic.

Gliscor @Leftovers
Impish
252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 Atk
Hyper cutter
-Earthquake
-Ice fang
-Stealth rock
-Roost

Gliscor can switch into an earthquake from a dragon and ice fang it. It has stealth rock because I will be trying to force switches. Earthquake is a no-brainer, and roost is for healing. I will also use him as a general physical wall.

Ludicolo @Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 SpD
Swift swim
-HP fire
-Leech seed
-Protect
-Substitute

Ludicolo is going to STALL YOUR FACE OFF. While I have toxic spikes AND stealth rock around, our favorite little guy is going to be healing with leech seed/leftovers. Then he'll use protect and sub like there's no tommorow! And if you dare send out a poison/steel/rapid spin forretress, your gonna be hit by a nasty HP fire.

Milotic @Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/ 252 Def
Marvel scale
-Surf
-Ice beam
-Recover
-Confuse ray

Milotic will try and force switches with confuse ray and stay alive with recover. Confuse ray can also help when the opponent sends out an electric. Surf is a strong STAB move and ice beam is for coverage.

Togekiss @leftovers
Calm
252 HP/152 SpA/ 104 Spd
Serene grace
-Nasty plot
-Roost
-Air slash
-Aura sphere

Nasty plot, roost for health. Then sweep.

Jirachi @Leftovers
Timid
252 SpA/ 252 Spd/ 4 HP
Serene grace
-Wish
-Calm mind
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt

Thunderbolt over thunder even with 60% paralize, cause I have very bad luck. It'll use wish, then calm mind, then it'll start to sweep.

Anyway, please rate. I want to have a good team for my first battle.

 

[GB_Packers_Ftw]

Yes there is nothing wrong with having stealth rock and toxic spikes there is no such limit on that. Otherwise i wouldnt recomend having your only strategey as passing Np's to luke. Id rather see you run a SD set or even a choice set. Then just take off BP on togekiss and use thunderwave instead.

 

[rayquazamaster776]

Yes, you can have both SR and T-Spikes. Also, your team has some big weaknesses. You have: 3 Pokemon weak to Fire, 4 weak to Ice, 3 weak to Psychic, and 3 weak to Flying. I'm not much of a team rater, so I don't know what you should do about that, I'm just letting you and other raters know, as I think that could be a problem.

 

[Lein]

I'm not worried about flying types, i have 3 pokemon with ice attacks. I'm not scared of fire, cause roserade will put them to sleep and should get up the spikes fine. Breloom will die by almost anything, so i don't care about his weaknesses, he won't be really taking hits anyway.
Lucario's fire weakness doesn't bother me cause he'll onyl have to take one hit before i substitute and sweep.

And passing to luke isn't my only startegy. I lay down spikes and stealth rock and try to get them to switch with machamp and breloom.

As for the passing to luke, I would rather do what i'm doing now because I did some damage calculations and not much will kill my lucario but earthquake and a strong fire move, but be aware i'm baton passing from a togekiss, so I won't really see earthquake. And people and gonna stop using there specail fire moves on my togekiss after a couple of nasty plots i hope so my baton pass to luke should be safe. And if my lucario is faster then all my opponets pokemon with the salac, I will be able to sweep with lucario as long as I don't hit a blissey. (quadruple specail attack has got to kill them in one attack with a super effective move) So i'll send out togekiss late when blissey will be dead if they have one.

And I would like to have a SD lucario, but I kind of like my lucario special. If it was a faster pokemon, I would of concidered a choice set, but I don't think it's fast enough to pull it off.

And with a flinch/paralize togekiss might not work for me because I have REALLY bad luck when I try something like that. I'm already pushing it by trying to use sleep powder. Not to mention they can switch out into an electivire if they have one when I try and thunder wave them and that would be very bad.

Sorry about that rant, i'm just obsessed with baton pass and I always defend using it.

 

[Sharpteeth]

Having said that, you're still pretty weak to Ice Shard Mamoswine. Roserade and Breloom are OHKOed by Ice Shard, Gliscor and Togekiss still take a lot. Lucario can be OHKOed on the switch by Earthquake, and Machamp resists neither Ice nor Ground. Machamp can be switched for either a bulky Water or a bulky Steel to add some Ice resistance (Starmie with Thunder Wave or Confuse Ray is good) and Breloom can be switched for a Ludicolo: instead of Sub-Seeding, you try to Seed-stall with Dive and Protect (you want them to switch, right?).

 

[Lein]

Right, ice shard mamoswine would kill me....
But why would an earthquake user be fighting togekiss? I dont' see that really happening.

Ludicolo would be a good idea and wouldn't die by ice shard. It'll have leech seed, substitute, protect, and dive to stall and try to force switching

I'll switch out machamp for a confuse ray milotic. I could have Surf, ice beam, recover, and confuse ray. That way I can stay alive and annoy.

I could switch roserade to a forretress.... milotic would solve my fire fears.

Although gliscor and togekiss might just have to take it. Every pokemon has weaknesses.

But maybe I could stop the baton pass idea and have a togekiss with aura sphere to attack mamoswine...

Although I want to keep gliscor to switch in to dragon earthquakes and ice fang them.

 

[Volren]

Right, ice shard mamoswine would kill me....
But why would an earthquake user be fighting togekiss? I dont' see that really happening.

A lot of pokemon who carry Earthquake for STAB or coverage (Tyranitar, Mamoswine, DDMence, Gyarados, Swampert etc.) usually also carry a Rock/Ice move to hit Flying types who avoid Earthquake, like Togekiss. Rock/Ground covers a lot of types pretty well.

 

[tennisace]

Changes in BOLD
Your team seems to lack something, so you may have to change some things around to get synergy. Also, if you don't want to use the "OU" of OU, then why is Lucario on there when he's well within the top 5?

Before I post my team, I want to say that I am very new to competitive battling and I have never had a competitive battle before, so my team might be bad or I might of made some bad mistakes while planning it. Please tell me if I did anything stupid and just rate it in general. One last note, I don't like using super popular pokemon like salamance, garchomp, metagross, etc, so don't advise me to.

My team:

Roserade @Focus sash
Timid
252 SpA/ 252 Spe/ 4 HP
Natural Cure
-Sleep powder
-Toxic spikes
-Grass knot/ Leaf Storm
-HP fire

Roserade will be my lead pokemon. She'll put the opposing pokemon to sleep and start putting up toxic spikes. HP fire is for steel/poison pokemon who switch in to the toxic spikes, like rapid spin forrestress. Grass knot is there just to have a STAB move to attack waters with, such as milotic.
Looks fine, but consider Leaf Storm over Grass Knot as a Hit and Run move.

Gliscor @Leftovers
Impish
252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 Atk
Hyper cutter
-Earthquake
-Ice fang
-Stealth rock
-Roost

Gliscor can switch into an earthquake from a dragon and ice fang it. It has stealth rock because I will be trying to force switches. (Someone please tell me if I can have toxic spikes and stealth rock at the same time.) Earthquake is a no-brainer, and roost is for healing. I will also use him as a general physical wall.
Good.

Machamp @Leftovers
Adamant
252 Atk/ 252 HP/ 4 Spd
No guard
-Dynamic punch
-Ice punch
-Rest
-Sleep talk

Machamps main purpose is to try and get people to switch when I have toxic spikes/stealth rock out by confusing them and doing good damage at the same time with dynamic punch. Ice punch is for type coverage, and I will rest while there busy switching/hurting themselfs in confusion.
Ok.

Breloom @Toxic orb
Adamant
252 Atk/ 212 Spe/ 44 HP
Poison heal
-Sustitute
-Leech seed
-Focus punch
-Spore

Breloom will switch in on a non-effective attack or when one of my pokemon die. I will then use spore, get a substitute up, and have some fun with leech seed and focus punch. Hopefully my leech seeding will make them switch into my toxic spikes/stealth rock. I'll also focus punch behind a substitute at times.
First thing: You lack a special attacker/ fast revenge killer. Second thing: Breloom only adds to weaknesses, and is quite redundant. With those two facts, you should replace him. You could replace him with either a Scarfed Gengar, or a Deoxys-e. Take your pick.

Togekiss @leftovers
Calm
252 HP/192 Def/ 64 Spd
Serene grace
-Nasty plot
-Air slash
-Baton pass
-Roost

I plan to pass nasty plot boosts to lucario. Air slash is for flinch hax and good damage, roost is to heal.

If you really feel that strong about keeping BP on there, go for it.

Lucario @salac berry
Modest
252 SpA/ 252 Spe/ 4 HP
Steadfast
-Sustitute
-Aura sphere
-Shadow ball
-HP Ice

Lucario will take the nasty plot boosts from togekiss, substitute till the salac activates, and procreed to sweep the enemy's team. Simple as that.
The type coverage on this is again, really redundant. Consider a bulky tank in it's place that's not weak to ice, like a Bronzong. That would really help your Mamoswine weakness.


Okay, thats my team. I just need to know if I can have toxic spikes and stealth rock at the same time. If I can't I need to give gliscor a diffrent support move like knock off.
Anyway, please rate. I want to have a good team for my first battle.

As for that Milotic, don't. Confuse Ray isn't that good, and you would be better off with Hypnosis. Same with Foretress. Also, just because you have super effective moves on types you are weak against, doesn't mean you counter them.

 

[Venom]

At first glance, Mamoswine would take this team on with ease. You have nothing that counters Mamoswine, Machamp looks like the only thing that would "stop" it, but it won't like taking STAB Earthquakes. Skarmory, Bronzong, Cresselia all stop Mamoswine, Bronzong is what I would recommend though. It would help you out as a lead, but Rosarade does a good job too, setting up Toxic Spikes early game. In this case, you could always lead with the one you like the best. Bronzong would go for Breelom, you have 3 Fighting types, Breelom being the most useless. Machamp + Lucario should be able to do the job.

Heatran causes problems too, as you have no solid special absorber, or something that takes shit from it, fire moves in general. Modest ScarfTran will just be devastating, if played correctly, destroy your whole team. tbh, I don't like the idea if Baton Passing to Lucario, Lucario alone with Choice Specs is good, I don't see the need for it, and Togekiss in general. You could replace it for a Vaporeon or Gyarados, preferably Vaporeon for more MixApe and Gyarados coverage. Starmie would work too, being a reliable MixApe counter, knows BoltBeam, Rapid Spins, and an handle Gyarados somewhat. All of these options would go for Togekiss, and make your Lucario either Sword Dance or SpecsLuke.

Make Bronzong a little bit SpDef oriented, to handle Gengars better. 252 HP / 128 SpDef / 128 Atk @ Sassy / Careful should be good

 

[Lein]

Kay, I updated. Not sure what to do bout roserade though. I was thinking I could lead with gliscor, set up stealth rock, and put in a forrestress later, but I still don't know.

 

[Venom]

Why would you do that if you can have a Bronzong as a lead that can sleep set the rocks up and save you from making those drastic changes in your team

 

[Lein]

And guys, could you read the whole topic before posting? I'm fixing my mamoswine weakness, and I didn't know lucario was so popular. I might add a bronzong to replace lucario and try a nasty plot sweeper togekiss...
I'll change grass knot to leaf storm though.

 

[Lein]

Why would you do that if you can have a Bronzong as a lead that can sleep set the rocks up and save you from making those drastic changes in your team

I'm keeping roserade. I might change gliscor to bronzong but I like gliscor.

 

[Lein]

And guys, my milotic can beat a heatran.

 

[Venom]

Either you didn't understand my post, or you need to read harder. But I'm gonna say no more, it will be considered spam

 

[Lein]

And venom, I don't want to use a bronzong. Sure, It's a great lead, but everyone uses it and i'm trying to use the more underused OU pokemon. That why i might ditch lucario.

Also, if I ditched roserade, then I will need someone else to toxic spikes.

 

[Lein]

Okay guys, I think my team is shaping out nicely. Milotic can wall and kill heatran, ludicolo is great for stalling....
But I want lucario out. Should machamp come back in? He could dynamic punch a mamoswine.

 

[forbidden]

A Timid Calm Minding Jirachi with Wish or Impish defensive Jirachi would do this team some good. It provides you with a semi decent dragon counter and Wish Support as well as Reflect(Impish). Its weaknesses are already covered by Milotic and Gliscor anyways.

You should stick Toxic over Confuse Ray on Milotic because Confuse Ray isn't that reliable and Toxic will shut down switch-ins such as Zapdos and other water types. Also Substitute on Ludi over Dive, Ludi hates status and Leech Seed will cause switchs anyways.

 

[Lein]

I would have toxic on milotic, but don't forget roserade has toxic spikes.
And I'll put sub on ludicolo. Thanks for the idea.

And jirachi is a great idea. Thanks so much.

 

[Lein]

Okay, I think my team is finished. I think I have most things covered. Is there anything else I have to deal with? Thanks for all the help, everyone.