Jack-In-A -Box

DarkEther

It's my first day on the forums, so if I messed something up I'd like to appologize ahead of time. I'm a bit new to the competitive enviornment too, so if you decide to help me please don't roast me over being wrong.

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Name: Weavile (Knuckles)
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Jolly (-SAtk, +Spd)
EVs: 20 Hp/ 236 Atk/ 252 Spd
Item: Focus Sash
- Sword Dance
- Brick Break
- Night Slash
- Ice Shard

I like Weavile's moveset a lot. Those who fear Weavile pay for it with Sword Dance, it boosts Weavile's attack to pretty high levels and allows it to sweep well. I've added Ice Shard to avoid getting pounched by Sacrf'd opponents.

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Name: Empoleon (Boss)
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Modest (-Atk, +SAtk)
EVs: 160 Hp/ 106 Def/ 244 SAtk
Item: Leftovers
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
- Surf

With it's sturdy defenses, Empoleon makes a good choice for Stealth Rock. The second reason for it being my Stealth Rock user is because it can be misleading when an opponent trys to figure out it's moveset.


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Name: Drifblim (Spooky)
Ability: Unburden
Nature: Modest (-Atk, +SAtk)
EVs: 236 Hp/ 252 Sp. Atk/ 20 Spd
Item: Petaya Berry
- Substitute
- Thunder Bolt
- Baton Pass
- Explosion

Drifblim has been chosen because it can eat some pretty heavy attacks. Usually I set up Substitute after a reasonable hit to bring Drifblim down enough to use Petaya Berry and activate Unburden. With Substitute in place it can sweep with a boosted SAtk stat and doubled speed. Thunder Bolt covers Steel Pokemon who are resistant to both Explosion and Shadow Ball. If I catch a fat pink blob switching in, I'm using Explosion to put a dent in her.

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Name: Garchomp (Ripjaw)
Ability: Sand Veil
Nature: Jolly (-SAtk, +Spd)
EVs: 6Hp/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spd
Item: Yache Berry
- Sword Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Fire Fang

I make up for the EVs taken away from Garchomp's attack stat with Sword Dance + Yache Berry. The first instinct people have when they see Garchomp is to put up a Physical Wall or switch into something that can deal with it. I use Sword Dance to make use of the switch and begin to sweep. Fire Fang is for type coverage, and I've opted Dragon Claw over Outrage because I don't want to get locked into facing something like Metagross.


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Name: Dusknoir (Grim)
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Impish (-SAtk, +Def)
EVs: 252 Hp/ 146 Def/ 112 SDef
Item: Leftovers
- Will-o-wisp
- Night Shade
- Shadow Sneak
- Pain Split

Dusknoir has been given the usual moveset, I suppose. Fire Punch over Thunder/Ice Punch for Breloom and Heracross who may try to switch in to counter Will-o-wisp. Shadow Sneak ignores Dusknoir's abyssmal speed and makes use of it's decent attack stat.


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Snorlax (Sleepy)
Ability: Thick Fat
Nature: Careful (-SAtk, +SDef)
EVs: 252 Hp/ 6 Atk/ 252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
- Rest
- Curse
- Body Slam
- Pursuit

Body Slam paralyzes my opponents and usually pursuades the use of Aromatherapy or Heal Bell from an opponent's team supporter. Pursuit catches fleeing Pokemon who realize Snorlax isn't going down. Body Slam is for stab, pure annoyance, and paralysis as stated above.
 
the only thing i can see wrong (in my opinion) is why do u give driftlim so much sp.atc and sp. moves? make it support with that massive hp and invest in defenses. it has a great support movepool, so put that to use.
 
trojan-man said:
the only thing i can see wrong (in my opinion) is why do u give driftlim so much sp.atc and sp. moves? make it support with that massive hp and invest in defenses. it has a great support movepool, so put that to use.
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I think it's a little unexpected of Drifblim to be designed as a sweeper. I'm a numbers guy, and when I look at it's moveset I'm seeing two KOs for the price of one. I can have Drifblim try to sweep from behind a Sub, then explode when it becomes useless or clear it's not going to be of much use.
 
Who would I Boton Pass the Sub to, to make it most effective? I'm starting to think about giving Drifblim Calm Mind and passing that to Empoleon, but I'm still not sure.
 
I would go with yache berry on Garchomp as it is not easy to swords dance with all the ice sharders and ice beamers running around.
 
Slowbro Master said:
I like this team a lot however watch out for machamp, as it basically sweeps this team between dynamic punch and ice punch I mean, this is just if Dusknoir is dead but I guess your pretty safe.

Can you RMT too hehe
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Hopefully I'll outspeed it and kill it earlier on, but I see what you mean. If I encounter any problems in the future, I'll be sure to add a counter measure.

Sure I'll rate/fix your team, too.
 
Name: Empoleon (Boss)
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Modest (-Atk, +SAtk)
EVs: 160 Hp/ 106 Def/ 244 SAtk
Item: Choice Specs
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
- Surf

Really? I don't like the idea. Your opponent gets a free switch or a turn to set-up. Really anything is better than Stealth Rock, maybe Hydro Pump you might need the extra "umph" or Hidden power Ground against Magnezone, Thats really all could think of Empleon has a pretty small SAtk move pool.

You also have a HUGE Lucario problem. You can say gg when you see one late game, wich will be often. Taking out Dusknoir for a Gliscor would fix this problem Drifblim has the same immunities as Dusknoir so you wont be missing it much, and it can free your Empoleon from Stealth Rock too. Use the first set seen here. Adding Gliscor also helps your semi Scarfhera problem.
 
You do have a fighting weakness and I think a mixed Lucario will cause problems. Gliscor or Skarmory ( although I like the former) will be good and can remove stealth rock from Empoleon.

I think you should add def evs on drif and maybe BP over Explosion(maybe) to pass a spatk boost to empoleon.
On a second thought keep Explosion or something like W-o-W or T-Wave.

How a bout leading with weavile??
 
Asma said:
Name: Empoleon (Boss)
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Modest (-Atk, +SAtk)
EVs: 160 Hp/ 106 Def/ 244 SAtk
Item: Choice Specs
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
- Surf

Really? I don't like the idea. Your opponent gets a free switch or a turn to set-up. Really anything is better than Stealth Rock, maybe Hydro Pump you might need the extra "umph" or Hidden power Ground against Magnezone, Thats really all could think of Empleon has a pretty small SAtk move pool.

You also have a HUGE Lucario problem. You can say gg when you see one late game, wich will be often. Taking out Dusknoir for a Gliscor would fix this problem Drifblim has the same immunities as Dusknoir so you wont be missing it much, and it can free your Empoleon from Stealth Rock too. Use the first set seen here. Adding Gliscor also helps your semi Scarfhera problem.
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The idea of Stealth Rocks and Choice Specs. either works perfectly, or puts me at an immediate disadvantage. As a result, I've removed Choice Specs, replacing them with Wise Glasses.

It might just be me, and I think it is, but the Lucario's that I've been coming into contact with are SD'ing, Choice Banded, Extreme Speed, sweepers. If I do have problems with them later on, I'll seriously consider replacing Dusknoir.
 
MetalGarX said:
You do have a fighting weakness and I think a mixed Lucario will cause problems. Gliscor or Skarmory ( although I like the former) will be good and can remove stealth rock from Empoleon.

I think you should add def evs on drif and maybe BP over Explosion(maybe) to pass a spatk boost to empoleon.
On a second thought keep Explosion or something like W-o-W or T-Wave.

How a bout leading with weavile??
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I've been leading with Weavile for the past week and it's a little better than Empoleon, so I'm definately going to take your advice.

Thanks.
 
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