My Sandstorm team i need some help.

Chileno4Live

Chileno4Live

Overview:
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In Depth:

The CB Tank:
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Tyranitar (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 56 HP/252 Atk/200 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Crunch
- Earthquake
- Pursuit
- Stone Edge
--- Tyranitar with Choice Band is just crazy. He can take a waterfall from gyarados assuming it didnt Dragon Dance. Then you can Stone Edge it 2 dead. Pursuit is for Azelf and Gengar which are common leads. Earthquake is obvious ofcourse to kill Steel Types. Crunch is for reliabe dark stab.

The CS Sweeper:
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Garchomp (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Fire Fang
- Outrage
--- Just a regular Scarchomp. Stone edge for gyarados which can screw this team. Fire Fang for Forretress and Skarmory and maybe bronzong. Outrage with Stab is crazy, does alot of damage even to the Steel types i just mentioned. Earthquake is for another great stab attack. I have this pokemon in my team for the bad Infernape and Magnezone. And also because it has Sand Veil.

The Special Sweeper:
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Empoleon (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Agility
- Grass Knot
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
--- This 1 saved my butt a few times. Play him in a pokemon who cant hurt Empoleon, then he would most likely switch and then use Agility. Hydro Pump is for stab, which hurts alot when it hits. I could use Surf instead but i prefer ATK power over Accuracy. Grass Knot is for water pokemon, which resists both ice and water. Life Orb is for the extra power.

The Special Wall:
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Bronzong @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/240 SDef/16 Atk
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Gyro Ball
- Explosion/Hypnosis
- Stealth Rock/Hypnosis
--- I just cant leave Bronzong its the best wall i can think of! I mean look, its resistance are so big, its just the best. I think everything explains when you look at the set. Im not sure for what to replace Hypnosis with, so i need help with that. If i use Hypnosis over Stealth Rock, it means that i have to use Gliscor as my SRer. If not, then i can teach Gliscor Knock Off.

The Psychical Wall:
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Gliscor (M) @ Yache Berry/Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 Atk
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock/Knock Off
- Stone Edge
- Roost
--- After ive sawn how big my Fight weakness is on this team, and i couldnt actually counter a Lucario who swept my whole team with Choice Specs after garchomp and mesprit died, i was trying to see which pokemon could fit. As conclusion i came with this: Gliscor. It gives me no problems with fight moves anymore and it actually works pretty good, as its the perfect counter for magnezone. It is always faster than Magnezone thats why! i'm not sure if i go with this moveset, as i already have a some sort of ''psychical wall'' named Mesprit. Stealth Rock or Knock Off im not sure, i need help with that.

The Bulky Special Sweeper:
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Mesprit @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/68 Def/92 SAtk/96 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Thunder Wave
--- This thing rockz, as it can switch to infernapes, gyarados ans chomps, all threatening my team, most notable infernape. Thunder Wave is for nice team support, i chose it over u-turn because i simply dont like u-turn. I also chose Mesprit for the reason he resists ground and fight.

Rates And Fixes please!
 
Forretress and Bronzong are both weak to fire, and Forretress is 4x weak. T-Tar is 4x weak to fighting and Empoleon is weak to fighting. Garchomp and Zapdos are weak to ice. One counter is Infernape. He can flare blitz Forry and Bronzong and CC T-Tar and Empoleon for a possible OHKO/2HKO. Your fire weakness could be cured by Heatran but he's weak to fighting. Magnezone absorbes ice moves, but he's also weak to fighting. Get something with Psychic for that. Otherwise that is a great team!

EDIT: You will only have a problem with Magnezone if it magnet rises. Try and switch Zapdos in on Gyarados' Taunt too. You can Roar away what comes in if the Gyarados switches. Also HP Ice is a good idea if you have it.
 
Thanks for the positive advice.

Yes i was considering Heatran but that gives me an extra ground weakness and a big 1. So i'm not for what to replace him. I love my empoleon he helped me alot. And i think hes alot better then Heatran in my opinion. Magnezone for the same reason the ground weakness. I also dont have HP ice on this Zapdos.

I have another Rash Zapdos with HP ice 70. Though im not sure if i would use him. Hes a more offensive Zapdos with the following moveset and EV spread:

HP ice, Thunderbolt, Roost, Light Screen.
Item: I dont know bout that yet lol.
EV spread: 252 Sp Atk 252 speed.

I could ditch Forretress and Zapdos for somethin else, but i need another Special Sweeper then. Someone help me!
 
Hippowdon is great as he has Sand Stream. You can switch him in for Forry. Gliscor is also a great switch for forry, although Toxic Spikes and Sand Storm kills the opponent slowely. Dugtrio is a great attacker. He gets most revenge kills and isn't hurt by SS. Azelf and Gengar resist fighting and are great sweepers.
 
Please can you take a look at the rules before hastily posting your team? You must have individual descriptions for each Pokemon, each describing the strategies of a Pokemon and why you use that particular Pokemon in your team. As a result, I am asking you to read these rules, particulary the third rule, in order to organize your thread so it is acceptable. Here is the RMT rules thread: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19179

I will open your thread once you have sent me a private message showing me the descriptions you have wrote for each Pokemon.

Edit: Re-opened.
 
Alright i've just fixed the post so this thread is on again. Someone please help me i have an upcoming tournament and i want to use this team.

EDIT: I've considered Salamence in this team instead for Zapdos. With this as moveset:
Salamence @ Life Orb
Rash
252 Sp Atk / 126 ATK / 126 Speed
Intimidate
Dragon Dance
Brick Break
Flamethrower
Draco Meteor
-I think this thing can do well since its a bit mixed. I usually play it on pokes which cant hurt salamence much, and then i DD. Then i have around 376,(yes mines got bad Ivs in speed) and enough attack to assure brick break will kill blissey(I think). Flamethrower is there for skarmory and Zong. Draco Meteor is just crazy with the 140 base power and stab + Life Orb! Only life orb and SS hurts alot.

So should i do this in my team, or should i got with something else, please help me!!
 
I don't have much time, so I will just say a few things.

Change CBTar's spread to 252 HP/216 Sp Def/ 40 Atk, Careful Nature as with this spread it can take a LO Gengar's Focus Blast.

Magnezone can really screw you up so give Forretress a Shed Shell.

Vaporeon over Zapdos can be a nice addition seeing as it can handle Gyarados and MixApe plus provide some nice wish Support and take off a Stealth Rock weakness.

Mixmence is definetly not the way to go with this team, because Sandstorm, plus Stealth Rock, plus Life Orb Recoil is just suicide, so I would stick with Vappy.

I would keep on typing but I really have to go.
 
Thnx alot for Replying Vaporeon is a great idea. Currently im playtesting Celebi over Zapdos with a offensive SubSeeder set. Toxic Spikes + Stealth Rock + SandStorm + Celebi is pwnage lol. I should try to plsytest Vaporeon aswell since it can wishpass greatly.
 
sportfreak said:
Mixmence is definetly not the way to go with this team, because Sandstorm, plus Stealth Rock, plus Life Orb Recoil is just suicide, so I would stick with Vappy.
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That's the exact thing I was going to say. Celebi has lots of weaknesses including ice, so switching him for Zapdos isn't too great for type coverage. If you're planning on keeping T-Tar Zapdos is the way to go if a Machamp switches in or something with Cross Chop. People can switch when they're seeded too, but they would get hurt by toxic spikes. If you choose Celebi you should have a SRer.
 
Chileon said:
Hey there, im new here and this is my first post. I'm certainly no noob but im not a pro either. I consider myself average.

Here is my team ive made so far:
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My main problem is the lack of a good Special Sweeper with some immunities. I took Zapdos because he is bulky and he is resists Ground and he can take Fight moves. Gyarados and Infernape in particular spoils my fun aswell. Here is the team with the details:

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Tyranitar (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 56 HP/252 Atk/200 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Crunch
- Earthquake
- Pursuit
- Stone Edge
--- Tyranitar with Choice Band is just crazy. He can take a waterfall from gyarados assuming it didnt Dragon Dance. Then you can Stone Edge it 2 dead. Pursuit is for Azelf and Gengar which are common leads. Earthquake is obvious ofcourse to kill Steel Types. Crunch is for reliabe dark stab.

Very nice. CB Tyranitar can take down many threats, mainly Gengar. One Pokemon that I see walling you is Skarmory. Stone Edge doesn't do too much on that, even with STAB and Choice Band. Not that you can put much on here to deal with it, but whatever.

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Garchomp (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Fire Fang
- Outrage
--- Just a regular Scarchomp. Stone edge for gyarados which can screw this team. Fire Fang for Forretress and Skarmory and maybe bronzong. Outrage with Stab is crazy, does alot of damage even to the Steel types i just mentioned. Earthquake is for another great stab attack. I have this pokemon in my team for the bad Infernape and Magnezone. And also because it has Sand Veil.

Again, I like it. I would consider putting Fire Blast on there for Skarmory and Bronzong, but other than that, it looks fine.
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Empoleon (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Agility
- Grass Knot
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
--- This 1 saved my butt a few times. Play him in a pokemon who cant hurt Empoleon, then he would most likely switch and then use Agility. Hydro Pump is for stab, which hurts alot when it hits. I could use Surf instead but i prefer ATK power over Accuracy. Grass Knot is for water pokemon, which resists both ice and water. Life Orb is for the extra power.

You just gained a whole lot more respect from me. Empoleon is probably one of my favorite Pokemon, and this set works very well. This is probably one of the better SandStorm Special Sweepers. I have nothing to say about this, unless you do want to change Hydro Pump to Surf.

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Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Light Screen
- Roost
- Roar
--- This Zapdos can take some hits, especially from infernape. HP ice wont hurt this thing, ive tried it out for some time. Hes the obvious choice because he resists both Ground and Fight, which hurts my time quite alot. Roar is for the mentioned Gyarados. Light Screen for some extra defense.


Standard Zapdos.
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Forretress (M) @ Macho Brace
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Explosion
- Gyro Ball
- Toxic Spikes
- Rapid Spin
---I only choose Forretress for Rapid Spin and for his resistance to ice. Gyro Ball and Macho Brace hurts alot of pokemon. Toxic Spikes and Sandstorm kills slowly, Rapid Spin is to remove spikes and Stealth Rock, so that Zapdos wont get hurt by it. Explosion is there when you've done your job.

Good.
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Bronzong @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/252 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
--- Bronzong is just the best Special Wall after blissey in my opinion. With levitate, it only have 1 weakness: Fire. Which almost my whole team resists. Stealth Rock to set up, Gyro Ball for cyhomp and salamence. And EQ for Lucario. Explosion is there when you're almost dead.

Here's where I don't get something. You have Forretress who can amazingly set up Stealth Rock, Toxic Spikes, Spikes, etc, and yet you bring in Bronzong. Bronzong isn't doing much for your team, so I would consider taking that out for a special sweeper. Maybe Heatran?

Heatran @ Life Orb/Choice Scarf/Choice Specs
Ability: Flash Fire
Nature: Modest
EV Spread: 252 SpAtk/252 Spd/6 HP
Moves:
Fire Blast
Earth Power
HP Ice
Explosion

This would be a great special sweeper for your team, and it would work better than Bronzong. You could also draw a few fire type attacks your way when you have Forretress out.

I hope you can help me. :)
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All around, a very nice team. I see no major flaws in it, other than the Bronzong. Consider Heatran. I hope I helped. Final Destiny FTW. :P
 
Oh yes. The Swampert factor ;p Definatly take Bronzong out for him. He resists fire and takes Ice Beam VERY WELL. He has SR and you have Forry as your Exploder. If you also put Celebi in, put in Swampert because he's only weak to grass and takes minimum damage to Celebi's weaknesses. Be sure to make him bulky :\

Final Destiny FTW :P
 
Thnx for the comments i appreciate it alot. I'm playtesting Celebi for a while now and she does a great job in my team, mainly to counter Gyarados. I'm using this set:

Celebi @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Spd
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover/Protect
--- I've used her in a battle, and because of this set i 6-0'd my opponent only with stalling. Toxic Spikes, Stealth Rock, Sandstream, and Leech Seed does a good amount of damage. Even better when badly poisoned. I used Protect back then but now Recover. I still could go with Protect.

I've used this thing instead of Zapdos, which wasnt really good in my team. And i also could use a Swampert in my team instead of Bronzong, with this moveset:

Swampert @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 Atk
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
- Stealth Rock
- Avalanche
--- I got this for type coverage since with Bronzong my Fire Weakness was 2 big and i couldnt go with Heatran because of the Groun dand Fight weakness. So a good friend told me to go with Swampert. This is the only Swampert set i have now, so i have 2 do with it.

any other suggestions or do you think this replacements wouldnt do good, i need help!
 
Bump this thing X_X. I need some help, i've had a Sandstorm team before with this pokes: Ttar, Empoleon, Garchomp, Swampert, Skarmory, Bronzong. Was that better?
 
Go for leftovers on Skarm. He can most likely survive a T-Bolt from Magnezone, then Whirlwind him and Roost back your health.
Otherwise, I see nothing wrong with the team. It's amazing from my point of veiw and it has great type coverage. Test it on Shoddy and tell me the results o.o
 
I know you're thinking about Slowbro, but that gives you an Electric weakness and more loss to Magnezone (If Garchomp is dead). That's where Gliscor comes in...... But Gliscor gets 2HKOd by HP Ice and if he magnet rises, Aerial Ace or Ice Fang isn't going to hurt him.
 
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