Rate my new fully offensive team for platinum

Arkangelchaos

This i the current team im using after deo-s's ban. Its been working out pretty well. Its oriented in being at the offense all the time. Here it is:

Team at a Glance
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Azelf@ Focus Sash
Psychic
Fire Blast
Explosion
Stealth rock
Naive-atk6, spatk252,spe252 28ivs in spdef

A pretty solid lead sets up rock which is IMO the best move in the game. Psychic for gengar leads and its is a reliable stab move. Fire blast for zong and steels that resist psychic. Explosion when im done setting up the rocks and to start the offensive tempo of the team. Changed swampert for azelf.
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Salamence@ Life Orb
Outrage
EQ
Fire Blast
Dragon Dance
Adamant-Evs-atk232,satk24,speed252

This thing is beast it can come in on a lot of pokes and start raping. Outrage +DD is unstoppable once i weaken or kill its counters. Fire blast with the given Evs to kill the rare skarm. It also is a good scizor counter kinda.
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Jirachi@ Leftovers
Body Slam
U Turn
Wish
Zen Headbutt
Impish- hp240, atk56, def76, spe136

Replaced scizor with jira to pass wishes to weakened team members and to take care of kingdra by para haxing him with body slam then zen headbutting him to death and if hes plaralyzed the rest of the team can take care of it anyway. U turn to scout and give one of my pokes a free switch in ocasionally. He also paralyses stuff making it easier for the team to sweep like it likes to do.

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Starmie@ Choice Scarf
Trick
Surf
Thunderbolt
Ice beam
Modest-Evs-hp6,satk252,speed252

Its been working great, Tricks those blisseys and vaporeons which are common switch ins to it, outspeeds skymin and Kos with icebeam as well as mences and dragonites. Kills heatrans if theyre not at full health. Thunderbolt for bulky waters and gyara.
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Skymin@ Life Orb
Seed Flare
Air slash
Earth power
Substitute
Timid-evs-def6,satk252,spe252

This thing is another beast when i can set a sub it literallly rips holes in the opposing teams taking out pokes with ease. Seed flare is for stab and to you know hax people. Air slash is great and annoying although when it misses it usually means bye skymin. earth power for those ever present heatrans.
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Infernape@ Life orb
Flamethrower
CC
HP [Ice]
Grass Knot
naive-atk24,satk232,spe252

So another life orber? yes my team is oriented in offense i used to use stall teams but i learned that the changes in this gen meant no stalling so i changed. Its pretty standard no nasty plot because i dont feel the need to have it this thing is frail and i never get to have a nasty plot up. So i opted to use hp ice instead to kill dragons. flamethrower for stab, cc for another stab and grass knot for bulky waters except vapo.

This team has been working out well. Its very hard to stop once i get momentum. Problem pokes that i can think of right now include gengar and scizor if mence or ape are down. So what do u smogonites think? Any help will be greatly appreciated and i might RMT ur team if u live a link if ur RMT was constructive.
 
If you are going to use a skymin use the skymin sprite and not the normal shaymin sprite to avoid confusing people.

Also, use surf on starmie. Not much reason for hydro pump, the missing won't make up for the extra damage really. And it would really suck if you missed at a crucial point.
 
For Salamence I would suggest changing to dragon claw as once you are confused salamence needs to switch out with really kills his sweeping abilitys and lets the other player get a free switch or free set up
 
Outrage is mence's new toy. Besides if u only use it late game it is incredibly good. If u use it early on u r just stupid lol. Dragon claw is the past.
 
You could also add Hp Fire to Skymin instead of Sub to take care of Scizor also the whole trick Starmie thing is nice people don't expect it in the mid game. Most trickers are leads not the spinners.
 
Well, on your Swampert, his careful nature is +Sp.Def - Sp.Atk, so, I would change Surf to Waterfall, and Ice Beam to Ice Punch, or roar. That's just my opinion, but it's all up to you. Other than that, your team looks good.
 
If you're opting for a Rapid Spinner, which despite being an offensive team, wouldn't be a bad idea. BulkyStar does it nicely, so you won't have to make a Poke change, should you decide you want a spinner.

If sticking with TrickStar, I'd say pre-Trick Pump would be good just to hit stuff harder, but post-Trick Surf serves a more useful purpose. It's a better feeler if you say, come in a Gyara Waterfall and threaten to KO with T-Bolt, as Hydro Pump's inaccuracy is a bit of a downer, however it dents things quite nicely.

Also, be warry of ScarfMin. It does a nice number to this team, scaring away your 'Pert if it's a lead, and depending on the HP, can outpace and take a good number of this team out with decent prediction. However, once you've gotten the HP down, it'll ease your prediction a bit.

Also, consider Roost on Scizor. You've gotten Celebi taken care of nicely via 'Ape, and Cress is 2HKO'd after a DD via Outrage with Mence, and aside from being a reliable STAB in those aspects, X-Scissor really serves no other purpose. Roost'll help take care of the residual damage that is entailed with Life Orb usage, and you'll still be able to hit hard with BP.

Other than that, looks alright.
 
I checked your whole team and it's pretty solid except for a poke named Kingdra that thing can put a huge dent throughout your entire team with ease. Once Swampert is injured and starmie then Kingdra can run wild over your team so a possible bulky star could be a good thought even though trick is awesome I guess you'll just have to expieriment and go from there.
 
I suggest running Yache berry over life orb on Mence if your planning on keeping outrage.
That way, it can at least take cb ice shard from something like weavile coming in to revenge kill it, or taking an ice move while setting up dd.
 
Arkangelchaos said:
Kingdra's hard to stop anyway with any team lol. Who do u think i could use to stop that thing?
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Empoleon is Kingdra's BEST answer at the moment, resisting both STAB Watefall and Outrage. From there, if it came in on locked Outrage, it can layer rocks, Toxic Kingdra, or smack back at it with something. However, Empoleon looks like it'd be pretty difficult to stick on here.

Skarm, Forry, and Registeel make for excellent Outrage switch ins, and can even take a + 1 DD Waterfall with enough left over to get layers down, and etc, Skarm being the most notable here as he can take an Outrage or 2, and phaze Kingdra out. Scizor could come in on Outrage also, but doesn't really have much to hit it with back. After a DD Kingdra will outpace you, so you can't even stall out with Roost effectively enough.
 
DimSum said:
Empoleon is Kingdra's BEST answer at the moment, resisting both STAB Watefall and Outrage. From there, if it came in on locked Outrage, it can layer rocks, Toxic Kingdra, or smack back at it with something. However, Empoleon looks like it'd be pretty difficult to stick on here.

Skarm, Forry, and Registeel make for excellent Outrage switch ins, and can even take a + 1 DD Waterfall with enough left over to get layers down, and etc, Skarm being the most notable here as he can take an Outrage or 2, and phaze Kingdra out. Scizor could come in on Outrage also, but doesn't really have much to hit it with back. After a DD Kingdra will outpace you, so you can't even stall out with Roost effectively enough.
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Using empoleon just to counter a pokemon isnt a good idea. Ive always thought empoleon is a bad choice in any team. If i were to use skarm who do u suggest i could replace? Im not liking the swampert lead lol it is the only pokemon that isnt offensive oriented but I still need those rocks. I think i might go with sashzelf. Infernape, mence and skymin hav been working great together. Trickstar has helped me a lot too against those pesky vaporeons and gyaras...I really dont know what to take out...
 
I certainly think that bulky star would be a good idea. I run it and its very good at what it does. Its up to you, you'd be best served dropping ice beam i tihnk for rapid spin and trick would become recover. Never hurts to have a fallback pokemon on an offensiveteam anyways
 
The format is annoying but I will try my best to make this team better =).

Azelf lead is fine but I would consider Taunt just to keep Bronzong from setting up SR which really limits a Salamence's sweeping potential. Especially with the newly acquired Bullet punch on scizor.

I would like to see a ScarfTran over Jirachi.

1) It doesn't take much from +1 Outrage.

2) Revenge Killer

3) A way to successfully switch in on Azelf which is very lethal.

4) It takes Ice Beams and Fire Attacks coming at Salamence and Skymin and they can take Fighting, Ground and Water Attacks.

Consider a Spinning Starmie since 2 SR weaks isn't good on a team that is switching around a lot.

Leftovers or Expert Belt>LO on an offensive team it isn't all about raw power and strength. That's only part of it. You need to be able to take hits also and with Stealth Rock and LO wearing down your entire team quickly you just aren't going to succeed against some of the more skilled players, not saying I'm one of them.

Ape is fine as is.

Hope I helped
 
Good team, just consider that even if you really love full offensive teams, you must have a transition pokemon somewhere so that you can get away from counters, otherwise if your pokes meet their match you have to keep switching in, but obviously you want to preserve your pokes.

Bronzong comes to mind, but I guess Jirachi could work too, thanks to all the new outrage users and Scizor with BP.

Also, if you are using Jirachi as your transition player, you might want to drop some speed for HP or Def, because as a transition poke, it won't really be needing to outrun anything anyway.
 
Even fully offensive teams need something to help set them up. I suggest a statuser to take full control of the situation at hand. Maybe a parahax set pokemon, something bulky but also strong. Needs to be fast. Jolteon perheaps?
 
darkartisan said:
Even fully offensive teams need something to help set them up. I suggest a statuser to take full control of the situation at hand. Maybe a parahax set pokemon, something bulky but also strong. Needs to be fast. Jolteon perheaps?
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Jolteon isnt bulky lol. Anyways, ive been raped hard by stealth rocks lately. But i dunno normally when they have SR in their team which 95% of teams in shoddy do they also have a spin blocker like rotom-h or rotom-w so i wouldnt be able to rapid spin anyway. The most troublesome pokemon ive faced lately is ttar he just rapes my pokemons so fast specially a DD one. I stopped some ttars cold thanks to jira's body slam though and then CCd with infernape when he killed jira. Jira's body slam is too good to take out of this team. Shaymin-s rapes but im considering leftovers so that i dont have so many recoil pokemon on my team which is by far my biggest problem with this team. Thank u all for ur RMTs and im so glad i havent let this thread die lol i always let other RMTS die.
 
One suggestion. For Skymin, HP Ice could be swapped over Substitute. Zapdos give you many problems so HP Ice would be nice. I think you can 2HKO it with Life Orb. Substitute is good, but HP Ice is another alternative.
 
Not sure if this has already been stated but, Iron Head is better choice on Jirachi also having STAB but 60% Flinch rate rather than 40, everything else seems to be covered by other raters.
 
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