All out offensive

Bourbon

I've never been one to use offensive teams. If I don't have an answer for my opponent's sweeper, I freak out and make stupid mistakes. IPL challenged me to make a team with no recovery at all, not even leftovers, with six sweepers. Hopefully by laddering with this I'll be more comfortable in the high pressure situations of Platinum OU.

The strategy here is simple, but so far quite effective. I try and keep the Stealth Rocks away from turn one with Weavile. Weavile draws out Steel type Pokemon, whom Magnezone kills easily.

With all the Steels out of the way, my Dragons and Scizor can attempt to sweep. Alakazam revenge kills anything that gets out of hand.



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Weavile @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/6 SDef
- Fake Out
- Ice Shard
- Pursuit
- Brick Break

This is my lead. Helps take out Suicide leads with a combination of Fake Out and Pursuit. Ice Shard helps revenge Dragons, while Brick Break shuts down screens, and helps me revenge kill DDtar. I am considering Night Slash in one of these slots to help with those pesky Rotoms.


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Magnezone @ Choice Scarf
EVs: 52 Atk/204 Spd/252 SAtk
Rash nature
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Flash Cannon
- Explosion

Steel killer. With Hidden Power Fire, I can destroy Scizor and Forretress. With Thunderbolt, Skarmory and Lucario. Choiced Metagross can be revenge killed as well.

This thing is really awesome. Topping out at 310 Speed, I outrun a lot of important Pokemon and can take them out. Explosion has saved me quite a few times by taking out some really nasty sweepers.


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Kingdra @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/6 Def
Adamant nature
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Outrage
- Draco Meteor

Destroys everything. With Magnezone removing the Steel type Pokemon, nothing can get in it's way. Draco Meteor is for a solid hit without having to resort to Outrage. I might run Signal Beam for the 2HKO on Celebi though.



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Camerupt @ Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/252 SpA/6 Atk
Quiet nature
- Earthquake
- Lava Plume
- Stealth Rock
- Substitute

Camerupt is pretty much the anti-metagame Pokemon right now, it counters Zapdos, and Scizor and Heatran can't stand up to it either. Solid Rock makes even Super Effective hits survivable, provided they aren't Surf.

Substitute is so I can screw up my opponent switching in Heatran or a levitator, and Stealth Rocks punishes switches. I chose Lava Plume because of it's chance of burning, but so far it's only burned once. If you have a better moveset idea, that'd be great, because Gyarados is still annoying. I haven't been burning it very often.


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Alakazam @ Choice Scarf
EVs: 252 Spd/252 SAtk/6 SDef
Timid nature
- Psychic
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Shock Wave
- Signal Beam

Not much to say here. Alakazam outruns everything that could possibly attempt a sweep, and revenge kills them with the appropriate move. Psychic is for STAB and late game cleanup. Hidden Power Ice for dragons, Shock Wave for Gyarados. Signal Beam is for Psychics and Darks.

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Scizor @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Atk/6 Def/252 Spd
Adamant nature
- Swords Dance
- Pursuit
- Brick Break
- Bullet Punch

The late gamer. Again, with Magnezone removing all the Steel type Pokemon, most of Scizor's counters are gone. Swords Dance + Bullet Punch rips through pretty much everything, while Brick Break can nail a Heatran switch-in. Very potent, and helps me revenge kill stuff with Bullet Punch.




My only complaints is I don't really have Gyarados covered that well. That, and I don't have Stealth Rock somewhere.


Oh, and notice I have no Arkesis pictures... for the love of God they are getting annoying. Every RMT has em.
 
This team looks good, resistance wise. I'm not so sure about Weavile as a lead. Anything that's not Azelf / Aerodactyl you pretty much must switch out against.

A bulky Scizor spread: 232 HP / 12 Def / 8 Spe with Roost > Pursuit works very well with Magnezone. You can set up with ease on the likes of Starmie, or any "weak" attacker. With Steels gone you pretty much win.

You have nothing to take status like will-o-wisp and T-wave (besides Flygon). May want to try Restalkin Kingdra. Huge surprise against those who try to set up after they sleep you.

Focus Blast may help out on Zam, you can OHKO most Tyranitar and actually hit Steels. Charge Beam may be better than Shock Wave. If your foe has no resists (or Blissey) left, you could sweep with a +1 or +2 Charge Beam. But that's just opinion, you may prefer the accuracy.
 
you mention zone getting rid of steel types but you seem to forget heatran who would easily take out weavile and magnezone. I guess you can take it out with flygon and kingdra but than again, dragons running 300+ speed is all the rage right now so that might not be as easy as it seems. I personally would reconsider alakazam. He seems to be just thrown in there and is pretty much for sweeping anything you might have missed. A nice bulky water such as Suicune or Milotic would be a nice addition, able to take on dragons and heatran! or you could just fall back on using weavile to take out dragons and replace zam with scarf dugtrio to take out heatran. This would allow you to open up and sweep with scizor.

ps: surf / recover / ice beam / hp electric milotic can also take out gyarados meaning nothing should be getting in your way for scizor sweep except zapdos maybe.

pss: if you opt for dugtrio, you could use sr as a filler move for once you revenge kill heatran. this lets you damage zapdos as well because ... well without sr, suicide teams usually arent doing the best they can. stone edge / eq / sr / sucker punch is a pretty nice moveset (you will never use aerial ace ... ever)
 
Yeah, scarf duggy sounds pretty cool actually. I'll do that, over alakazam

but if I get rid of Alakazam how do I deal with gyarados :/ it's pretty sad that alakazam is my gyarados check but it's better than nothing.
 
although i personally love pursuit scizor, you could look into quick attack over pursuit, allowing you to deal some decent damage to gyarados. The way i see it happening, is that you sr with dugtrio, gyarados comes in and takes 25%. most likely it will hold life orb meaning you will probably have to sac weavile but you can just ice shard it and then kill it off with scizor bullet punch. dont forget dugtrio with stone edge either (scarftrio outpaces 1dd offensive gyarados easily).

there is another alternative that is infuriatingly risky and that is using focus sash on dugtrio. If you feel that you could keep stealth rock off the field then do it. But if you arent sure than avoid this suggestion like the plague. scarf duggy could ohko heatran though and survive the fire blast with the sash, then stone edge a gyara switch-in.
 
skiddle said:
Yeah, scarf duggy sounds pretty cool actually. I'll do that, over alakazam

but if I get rid of Alakazam how do I deal with gyarados :/ it's pretty sad that alakazam is my gyarados check but it's better than nothing.
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Don't get rid of Zam. Since Weavile is a lead, I'm guessing he'll be dead: so all Mence needs is a Dragon Dance and it will kill your whole team.

EQ Magnezone
Dragon Claw / Outrage Flygon and Kingdra
Fire Fang / Fire Blast Sicizor

Scarftrio only manages Damage: 63.25% - 74.40% with Stone Edge, that's a 0 HP Mence, and that's if you outspeed. The only way you can deal is if you still have Zone left and force it to Outrage then revenge kill with ScarfZone. Or use Trio, then Bullet Punch. Either way you must sacrifice a Pokemon or more likely two. If you keep Alakazam, it can come in on a DD or after Mence finishes your (weakened) Pokemon who's already in play.
 
Yeah, I'll have to find another way to get Stealth Rock on the field... Alakazam is too vital to my success.
 
just because it is his lead doesnt mean that he is planning on sacrificing it every time. offensive teams are only successful if they play off resistances which is what he is doing. He isnt going to let his dragon revenge killer die turn 1-3 because it happens to be the lead on an offensive team. I really don't see how mence seems like a bigger threat than heatran to this team, especially with 2-3 revenge killers / priority users.

edit: although im absolutely positive that you should put duggy over zam, if you want to keep zam because he has worked well for you, than the best I could do is advise to look for a replacement to flygon and that replacement would be a Stealth Rock / U-Turn / Fire Blast / Close Combat Infernape. more of a lead pokemon but at least it gets down sr, uturns, and can attack big when needed.
 
How about some other Ground type, because I would sorely miss my Thunderwave immunity.

Whoa. Brain wave. How about Camerupt!? It can set up Stealth Rock, and can take on Zapdos as well. It isn't afraid to switch into Blissey because it shrugs off Flamethrower, Ice Beam and Thunderbolt, and it can switch into Heatran's Fire Blast on occasion if need be.
 
Well, there is no harm at all in trying it so I would try it out and see how it works for you. I could see camerupt setting up pretty good in this team, being able to take on rotom and zapdos as well as taking out heatran.
 
Eh, Camerupt is a mixed bag. I'm running EQ, SR, Sub, and Lava Plume, and it seems Lava Plume never burns anything and Gyarados and Salamence get in for free :/

Sometimes it destroys the entire team, other times, it gets me raped.
 
What if you used Yawn over Substitute on Camerupt? On the occasions where Sub actually can be set up, you can just as well Yawn, forcing a switch. Neither Salamence nor Gyarados (apart from the RestTalkers) wants to fall asleep, and while they switch out, you are free to put up Stealth Rocks that punish them the next time they enter the field.
It also works as pseudo-phazing on for instance Kingdra coming in thinking it get some free setup.
 
I really like this team, particularly Camerupt. GJ. I used him on an old OU team with a lot of success. I, though, ran:

Camerupt @ Leftovers
Modest / Solid Rock
... forgot the evs, sorry (it was a weird spread)
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Stealth Rock
- Yawn

I find the extra power of Fire Blast more useful on Camerupt should you be using Camerupt often against something like Celebi / Rotom-h.

As you mentioned, he is an incredible anti-metagame Pokemon.
 
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