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Scizor@Choice Band
Adamant Nature [+ Attack, -Sp.Atk]
Ev's: 252 Attack/ 252 Speed/ 6 Hp
Ability: Technician
~Bullet Punch
~U-Turn
~Super Power
~Pursuit
The main purpose of this pokemon is to make trick leads with scarfs useless and be able to scout them out. With Scizor having technician and as a lead, pursuit is a amazing opportunity to use. Get's Gengars and Azelfs two of the most popular trickers and can dish out a strong attack after. U-turn is great for scouting and does a great deal of damage to a big problem Cresselia and can pass out to something to finish it off. This lead is just amazing and I love it.
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Heatran@Choice Scarf
Modest Nature [+Sp.Atl,-Attack]
Ev's: 252 Speed/ 252 Special Attack/ 6 Attack
Ability: Flash Fire
~Fire Blast
~Earth Power
~Hidden Power [Ice]
~Explosion
This thing is here for an obvious reason. Takes hit's that Mamoswine and Scizor can't take and can also take other hits nicely. Not really much to explain about this thing because it is so standard everyone knows why it is here in the first place. Best Special Attacker in the game in my opinion :/. Oh yeah I forgot to add this is my DD mence counter once it Outrages already.

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Zapdos@Leftovers
Timid Nature [+Speed,-Attack]
Ev's: 252 Special Attack, 150 Speed, 100 Hp
Ability: Pressure
 ~Thunder Bolt
~Hidden Power [Grass]
~Heat Wave
~Roost
I made this Zapdos set myself. The speed Ev's allow it to outrun certain pokes who get stopped at 299 speed, The Hp Ev's allow Zapdos to take hit's nicely without having to switch out alot, and the special attack Ev's are there for obvious reasons. Roost allows me to recover Hp I lost which is always useful, Hp Grass is for Swampert which hurts my team and Heat Wave for things like Scizor and Bronzong. Seriously this thing has been caught sweeping whole teams in late game and I just love this thing.
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Mamoswine@Leftovers
Adamant Nature [+Attack,-Sp.Atk]
Ev's: 252 Attack/ 36 Hp/ 220 Speed
Ability: Snow Cloak
~Stealth Rock
~Ice Shard
~Earthquake
~Stone Edge
This thing is great. Here for switch in's to Ice Beams, and mainly Thunder Bolts. This thing can set up stealth rock and is can knock off low Hp pokemon or just flat out dominates Salamence and Flygon. This thing I have always love and have almost always used it in my teams. Coverage is great and can just do great.

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Salamence@Yache Berry
Adamant Nature [+Attack,-Sp.Atk]
Ev's: 252 Attack/ 252 Speed/ 6 Hp
Ability: Intimidate
~Dragon Dance
~Outrage
~Earth Quake
~Stone Edge
What can I really say about this thing, other than it works great. I tested out a choice scarf mence in place with this and it just was pathetic compared to this. Yache berry allows me to set up on things like Infernape, Swampert, Mamoswine, Heatran, and many more I could list. Honestly this thing is awesome and I can sweep teams with it, which is why I use it.

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Vaporeon@Leftovers
Bold Nature [+Defense,-Attack]
Ev's: 252 hp/ 220 Defense/ 36 Special Attack
Ability: Water Absorb
~Surf
~Hidden Power [Electric]
~Wish
~Protect
My only wall on this team. Heals up all the other sweeping pokemon after doing whatever needs to be done and can take any water attacks that fly at Mamo or Heatran. I picked this wall because of the sole purpose of Wish. The only flaw about this thing is that Mix-Nape can hurt it badly but my other pokemon can handle it very well and switching is key on this team.​


WELL RMT
 
if switching is key roar and stealth rock will kill you. And i aIso would switch stone edge with fire blast for forretress and scizor on mence
 
First off, please remove the yellow colour text. I have to highlight it with my cursor to read it.


Scizor is a horrible lead. Many common leads have an advantage against it - Azelf (usually carries Flamethrower), Infernape, Heatran, and most SR users in general get a free SR up, even Trick Scarfers like Metagross and Jirachi. If you want to swap Trick Scarfers, use an anti-lead Jirachi:
move1: Iron Head
move2: Trick
move3: Stealth Rock
move4: U-turn
item: Choice Scarf
nature: Jolly
evs: 80 HP / 252 Atk / 176 Spe
Iron Head has a 60% chance of stopping Azelf and Aerodactly from setting up SR, and messes up Tyranitar. Trickers wouldn't uuse Trick on Jirachi, as they'll suspect Jirachi is Scarfed. U-turn provides great team synergy and is great for scouting, as well as allowing a free hit on the enemy poke whilst avoiding a super-effective hit. This is even more handy when considering the enemy may have Focus Sash. Stealth Rock is obvious, and Jirachi is more bulky than Mamoswine.

Speaking about that, Mamoswine is your main way of handling Salamance, and it is your SR user. ((By the way, he is NOT a good switch-in to Ice Beams with such bad SDef; Heatran is far better at that)). These two do no go hand in hand. I would remove SR, and just make Mamoswine a LO user with Superpower. I would then have the standard 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Def EV spread, to avoid being outspeed by other base 80s. Also, unlike your previous Mamoswine, this one can OHKO 252 HP Tyranitar and Metagross with Earthquake. None of your pokes can safely switch into Ttar, so when you are able to get a free switch into him (you would use prediction), it is important to be able to take him out immediately. LO > CB, for if you mispredict (especially in this case), you can still use a different attack. This is important for Mamoswine, as his main power attack doesn't hit many pokes, whilst Ice Shard has poor base power.

Change Vaporeon's EVs to 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Spe. Max Def. as it's base Def is horrible, and it's base HP is very high. The Speed will outrun most CB Metagrosses and Skarmories. 188 HP gives max. Leftovers recovery.
 
I can't see your Zapdos, change the colour. In fact, avoid colour in general.

Dragonite arguably does yache DD better than Salamence, so either switch it to Dragonite or just go with the Mixed Bomber, since Skarmbliss will wall this time for entirity.

You'll want a new lead. Metagross is pretty handy for that kind of thing, it usually always gets up Rocks, and if it doesn't, something is dead.

Metagross @ Occa Berry (for Azelf and Heatran leads)
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 200 HP/56 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature(+Spd, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Stealth Rock

suicide lead Metagross has to be one of the best leads I have ever used.

now that you've changed it to Metagross, get rid of Stealth Rock on Mamoswine and use Ice Shard instead.
 
To be honest I really don't think you'd be able to pull a sweep off with Salamence assuming he's there as a mid-late game sweeper. As Thorns said, Dragonite is the better option at holding Yache Berry simply because he possesses higher Special Defense than Salamence which enables him to have a greater chance at surviving the much dreaded Ice attack, whomever the attack may be coming from. Before I get into further detail on that, I really want to discuss your lead, basically I'm seconding darknessmalice in getting a new one; so many common leads shut Scizor down and I want to get you a lead that's going to actually get you somewhere without upsetting the teams synergy too much. As such I want you to go ahead and put Heatran in the lead position. Let's go ahead and give him a SR movespread:

Heatran @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spe / 252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
~ Fire Blast
~ Earth Power
~ Explosion
~ Stealth Rock

Alright so with this set you pretty much set up rocks right at the beginning of the match but you have to be aware of those faster leads that run Taunt such as Aerodactyl who will try to stop your initial plans to set up. If you get Taunted you'll either have to switch out due to the inability to cause any kind of harm with your attacks since Fire Blast isn't reliable against Aerodactyl, or stay in and become set up fodder and although most of the time won't be OHKO'd by Earthquake thanks to Shuca Berry, you will sustain heavy damage from it. The opponent won't assume you're holding Choice Scarf in this situation since you're leading; those mid game SubTrans are the ones who are best at faking Scarf imo.

On Zapdos I'm having a nitpick with the EV spread and let me explain why: you're making it to where Zapdos reaches 300 Speed which is only good for outrunning Adamant Salamence/Flygon, preventing you from being torn apart by an Outrage. That being said, I think running Hidden Power Ice over Hidden Power Grass would benefit you more in this particular situation since it takes advantage of that spread a bit more.

Ok on Mamoswine I'm not going to screw the spread up or anything but I do want to change it up. First off drop Leftovers and go for a Choice Band set instead. This way you can pack so much more of an extra punch and the only exception is against Bronzong who doesn't take hardly any damage from Mamoswine's normal range of moves, although Superpower does take off quite some damage. I'll explain a little more but let me get into the acutal moveset:

Mamoswine @ Choice Band
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
~ Earthquake
~ Ice Shard
~ Stone Edge
~ Superpower

This is a lot similar to the set you were originally running but without SR and with a CB thrown on him at an attempt to exploit his massive Attack. Earthquake is obviously for an extremely powerful STAB attack that will hurt the hell out of anything that doesn't resist it. Ice Shard is there for revenge killing as well as being your secondary option to Flying types; Ice Fang could be possibly used over Ice Shard if you prefer more power. I really think Stone Edge is your only reliable option against Flying Pokemon primarily Gyarados who you couldn't otherwise hurt and using Superpower should be scarcely used; mainly for those troublesome Bronzong as previously stated.

Getting back to the Salamence issue I want you to drop Yache Berry and slap on a Leftovers instead. Like I said earlier, if you were using Dragonite in that spot then Yache Berry is a fine option. Otherwise, it's not so helpful for an offensive Salamence; giving Mence a specially bulky spread could remedy this fragility problem if you really want to use Yache Berry.

Lastly for Vaporeon I see it being royally screwed over by a few Pokemon due to the fact that you lack Ice Beam; Celebi for instance, who takes little harm from Surf / HP Electric and can SubSeed easily in that situation; Salamence, who can DD and attempt to sweep without having to fear being OHKO'd by an Ice Beam; and Flygon, although he can't take many Surfs before being KO'd, if he's holding Choice Band then he will wreak havoc with Outrage. For that I want you to drop Protect and run Ice Beam. Protect isn't absolutely necessary on Vaporeon but a lot of people feel the need to use it to aid Wish, similar to WishBliss. Vapoeon isn't as weak as Blissey so Wish is fine alone. I myself run Surf / Ice Beam / Hidden Power Electric / Wish with a bulky EV spread and it works great for me.

I hope this helps and good luck. ^_^
 
^^^ You're kidding. I think he beats...Aerodactyl and Tyranitar quite well But guess what? Jirachi does it better and Metagross does it just as well!

Then you have Azelf, Infernape, and Heatran. They fire attack your ass. So you have to switch out and let something else take the hit (however small it might be). Then they still get their rocks up and can possibly do something else. So yeah. Scizor is a fail lead.

In terms of Jirachi vs. Metagross, I'm going to say Metagross, and move CB Scizor over Mamoswine. CB Scizor still deals with shit like Salamence and Flygon very well, but gives you some extra leverage over a lot more other pokemon. Not to mention Mamoswine now sucks since Scizor is constantly kicking his ass. And many users of T Bolt have Ice Beam, which does hurt Mamoswine's pretty poor defensive stats hard.

Probably make Scizor bulky so he can still take special attacks:
200 HP/252 Atk/56 SpD, Adamant.
 
chenman333 said:
^^^ You're kidding. I think he beats...Aerodactyl and Tyranitar quite well But guess what? Jirachi does it better and Metagross does it just as well!

Then you have Azelf, Infernape, and Heatran. They fire attack your ass. So you have to switch out and let something else take the hit (however small it might be). Then they still get their rocks up and can possibly do something else. So yeah. Scizor is a fail lead.

In terms of Jirachi vs. Metagross, I'm going to say Metagross, and move CB Scizor over Mamoswine. CB Scizor still deals with shit like Salamence and Flygon very well, but gives you some extra leverage over a lot more other pokemon. Not to mention Mamoswine now sucks since Scizor is constantly kicking his ass. And many users of T Bolt have Ice Beam, which does hurt Mamoswine's pretty poor defensive stats hard.

Probably make Scizor bulky so he can still take special attacks:
200 HP/252 Atk/56 SpD, Adamant.
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How does Scizor deal with Salamence and Flygon? They always carry fire attacks and can survive a bullet punch.

And I respectfully disagree with Scizor as a "fail lead".
 
chenman333 said:
^^^ You're kidding. I think he beats...Aerodactyl and Tyranitar quite well But guess what? Jirachi does it better and Metagross does it just as well!

Then you have Azelf, Infernape, and Heatran. They fire attack your ass. So you have to switch out and let something else take the hit (however small it might be). Then they still get their rocks up and can possibly do something else. So yeah. Scizor is a fail lead.

In terms of Jirachi vs. Metagross, I'm going to say Metagross, and move CB Scizor over Mamoswine. CB Scizor still deals with shit like Salamence and Flygon very well, but gives you some extra leverage over a lot more other pokemon. Not to mention Mamoswine now sucks since Scizor is constantly kicking his ass. And many users of T Bolt have Ice Beam, which does hurt Mamoswine's pretty poor defensive stats hard.

Probably make Scizor bulky so he can still take special attacks:
200 HP/252 Atk/56 SpD, Adamant.
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Oh yeah, and check this out:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48541
 
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