First RMT On Smogon, OU

[xZerox]

This is my first RMT on Smogon, and this team I've tried on Wi-Fi, and it's done relatively well for me. However, I still feel like there's something lacking, or something just doesn't feel right about this team.

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Sassy ( -Spe, + SpD)
EVs: 252 HP / 86 Atk / 80 Def / 92 SpD
~Gyro Ball
~Reflect
~Earthquake
~Stealth Rock

This guy has always been my lead, because he always gets a Stealth Rock which takes off enough HP for my offense to score 1-2 hit KOs. I chose to forego Hypnosis, because I plan to use this team in Platinum as well, and the fact that the accuracy of Hypnosis has been set back to 60 is a real turn off for me. So, I chose Reflect for the sake of team support, not to mention that I also have another team member ready for a Light Screen too.

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
EVs: 156 HP / 108 Atk / 100 Def / 144 Spe
~Dragon Dance
~Waterfall
~Stone Edge
~Taunt

The BulkyGyarados set, which I chose because the Standard Offensive set is more suited for late game, which is what I'm saving Gengar and Flygon for. Personally I think I would like to use this Gyarados after either Bronzong or Latias are beaten, since his mix of defense and offense in my opinion make a good transition to the later game.

Scizor @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, - SpA)
EVs: 32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spe
~Swords Dance
~Bullet Punch
~Brick Break
~Roost

Not much to say here, he's my main Physical Sweeper meant to get rid of some of Gengar's counters and some damage of his own. I chose Roost over Quick Attack for longevity. Gengar Counters that Scizor can take care of are Tyranitar, Weavile, and variations of Blissey lacking Flamethrower.I chose BB over Superpower, because I don't want any screeners to set up, which could hamper Gengar and Flygon late game.

Latias@ Light Clay
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid (+Spe, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 218 Def / 28 Spe
~HP Fire
~Light Screen
~Wish
~Dragon Pulse

Light Screen Special wall that replaces Zapdos, and also Pseudo-Passes wish. Still carries a Fire Move to take care of Steel/Grass types. HP Fire replaced Reflect due to the fact that Bronzong already has it. Wish for the purpose of Pseudo-Passing recovery. Sure, he may give my team a second Ice weakness, but I'm confident that with a Light Screen up it can take the Ice Beams/HP Ices. I chose the EVs, since I wanted my Latias to have higher Def.

Gengar @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid (+Spe, -Atk)
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
~Shadow Ball
~Thunderbolt
~HP Ice
~Trick

SpecsGar set, and basically the star of this team, and my absolute favorite Pokemon in the world. I never liked Focus Blast's low accuracy, as very often it missed. So, I chose to put HP ice for the sake of better type coverage. Depending on the situation, It's either this guy or Flygon last as a revenge killer.

Flygon @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
Nature:Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
EVs: 80 HP / 252 Atk / 176 Spe
~Earthquake
~Outrage
~Stone Edge
~U-Turn

New Revenge Kill replacing Porygon-Z, thanks to the input of animengai. Gengar pretty much has BoltBeam covered, so this set also gives me more coverage. Also, he may have more weaknesses than PZ, but that is outweighed by Flygon's great typing. Earthquake gets rid of Heatran and Steels much like PZ's old HP fighting was supposed to. I chose Stone Edge because a lot of my team is Gyarados-weak, and SE is good for revenge killing it.

 

[Overcast2020]

You went right by the books with this team didnt you? This is a very good team and there isn't much that can be said.

I would consider using Life Orb over wacan berry on Gyararos. Wacan is an extremely situation move. And even when it is used I find that it rarely pays off as most pokes using electitric attacks, defensive Gyarados can't do shit aggainst even after an extra DD.

These next few things aren't problems with your team but things to try that might or might not help:

1) try superpower on scizor. Extra power is nice.

2) try a few more SAtk evs on zapdos from defense.

3) try earthquake or bounce over stone edge on gyarados.

4) try explosion over one of you moves for bronzong for a last resort.

Otherwise I can't give much more advice without completely rearranging the team. Cmon other eaters prove me wrong. (8 out of 10)

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[animenagai]

Cmon other eaters prove me wrong. (8 out of 10)

Sure.

1. No electric resist, meaning that you'll have massive troubles with jolteon. Pretty sure Zapdos is 2HKO'd by a specs'd Jolt with t-bolt after SR.

2. Pretty Rotom weak. It at least ties with all your pokes.

3. You're pretty gyara weak yourself. Zapdos is OHKO'd with DD and stone edge. The special sweepers get hit hard on the switch by waterfall and have no way of healing that damage off.

4. I hate how zapdos and gyara have to do everything on this team. They're gonna be the most common switch ins with stuff like heatran and scizor running the show and yet they're both SR weak. Won't last long.

I feel that you can replace PZ for scarfgon. PZ really does not do much in terms of offense or defense because of its typing. Much rather have a reliable revenge killer and champion of all 'intermediate pokemon' on this team.

 

[xZerox]

Sure.

1. No electric resist, meaning that you'll have massive troubles with jolteon. Pretty sure Zapdos is 2HKO'd by a specs'd Jolt with t-bolt after SR.
Would you agree with me that I should have gone with something like a Light Screen Latias? It resists electric, yet it still provides the Screen Support I want to use. Sure, it may be weak to Ice moves, but at least it has the SpD against the HP Ice/Ice Beamers.

2. Pretty Rotom weak. It at least ties with all your pokes.
You stumped me on that...I wish I could cover every threat.


3. You're pretty gyara weak yourself. Zapdos is OHKO'd with DD and stone edge. The special sweepers get hit hard on the switch by waterfall and have no way of healing that damage off.
Hmn, with Flygon does that mean I can revenge kill it with Stone Edge?


4. I hate how zapdos and gyara have to do everything on this team. They're gonna be the most common switch ins with stuff like heatran and scizor running the show and yet they're both SR weak. Won't last long.
I really will take this into concept, but for some reason I feel like leaning towards Flygon + Latias on my team. EQ Heatran on the revenge kill or switch in on a fire/ground move seems nice. Latias IMO does a better job at Defending Specials than Zapdos, and resists electric/SR, and I think I can use it against Scizor if I had HP Fire and Reflect Set up...maybe.

I feel that you can replace PZ for scarfgon. PZ really does not do much in terms of offense or defense because of its typing. Much rather have a reliable revenge killer and champion of all 'intermediate pokemon' on this team.
In that case, I will replace PZ with Scarfgon. Does the Draco Meteor variation seem good enough? I'm leaning towards so. Besids, it still seems to cover a wider array of types, since IMO, Gengar has the pseudo-BoltBeam coverage.

You went right by the books with this team didnt you? This is a very good team and there isn't much that can be said.

I would consider using Life Orb over wacan berry on Gyararos. Wacan is an extremely situation move. And even when it is used I find that it rarely pays off as most pokes using electitric attacks, defensive Gyarados can't do shit aggainst even after an extra DD.

These next few things aren't problems with your team but things to try that might or might not help:

1) try superpower on scizor. Extra power is nice.
Will try, seems to make sense if it only takes down -1 from Attack/Def. Besides, if Bronzong gets a Reflect in I don't know how much that would help against a neutral physical.


2) try a few more SAtk evs on zapdos from defense.
3) try earthquake or bounce over stone edge on gyarados.

4) try explosion over one of you moves for bronzong for a last resort.

Otherwise I can't give much more advice without completely rearranging the team. Cmon other eaters prove me wrong. (8 out of 10)

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[animenagai]

Yep, you can revenge kill gyara with flygon (or just switch it in on the DD or stone edge/EQ). It needs to be adamant for you to kill it with stone edge though. If you're running jolly (which there are good reasons to) you'll have to go with thunderpunch, as restricted as it is. It's up to you really, just go with one or another and not try and incorparate both.

Wait, why are you running timid? That's a -Atk nature, which is just silly. If you're keeping that set, run something like +speed -def (whatever that nature is).

Note: either way you'll need SR down to OHKO gyara, so just have that in mind.

 

[xZerox]

Sorry, I really forgot to change Flygon's nature. I really wanted Adamant all along. Does replacing Zapdos with Latias seem like a good idea in terms of defense?

 

[animenagai]

Sorry, I really forgot to change Flygon's nature. I really wanted Adamant all along. Does replacing Zapdos with Latias seem like a good idea in terms of defense?

I have mixed feelings. Now you're weak to scizor (good luck switching in on scizor with latias).

 

[xZerox]

I have mixed feelings. Now you're weak to scizor (good luck switching in on scizor with latias).

At least I don't have a big problem with Stealth Rock, and I still resist electricity. Doesn't it also mention in Scizor's DP Analysis that Gyarados first of all Intimidates Scizor, not to mention that Gyarados's typing allows resistance to moves like Bullet Punch, X-Scissor, etc, giving a turn to DD. However I can see why you want me to watch out, as Stealth Rock can screw me up.