RMT by scuba stevee

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Every1XplodeNOW

This is my first RMT here at smogon so....yeah! I would like comments and they are much appreciated, but I like constructed criticism and not "this team sucks" or "this team is great". Please explain why you think it sucks or you think it's great.

Sorry for being all formal, so I will start now. This team is extremely offense orientated so there really is no need for toxic-s and spikes. I'm not trying to be arrogant here but I really can't think of pokemon that is extremely threating to this team. I bet there is, so I need the great smogon peeps to find it.

Edits are in Bold

Mesprit @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/164 Def/92 SAtk
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Stealth Rock
- Trick

Thinks to rofltocos(sean) from pe2k for this set.(Don't know if it is standard but I saw it and thought it was sexy)This will out run all none scarf pokemon including all base 130. I really love this sense it is rarely seen.
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Magnezone @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Explosion
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Thunderbolt

My steel counter. Love to switch this on scizor to revenge kill that thing with hp fire. T-bolt and flash cannon are for stab and explosion is finish off something that my other pokemon can't.
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Machamp (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dynamicpunch
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Stone Edge

This and latias are the core of the team. It counter pokes suck as t-tar who would other wise give this team trouble. Payback are for ghost. Also absorbs status from gengar, bliss, etc. Changed payback for SE for mainly flyers and zapdos.
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Latias (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse
- Thunderbolt
- Draco Meteor
- Surf

This is the basic CM set for latias.This probably needs extreme updating. I'm think draco meteor over dragon pulse for power and t-bolt over thunder for better acc. and to deal with dos. If someone has something better please post! Super updated to a more offensive set. I think having a second tricker could prove fatal to my opp. if I can play it right. Sending CSpecs to the likes of bliss or snorlax to cause headaches for my opp.
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Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Extremespeed
- Crunch

Suggested by Limitless. This comes as my late game sweeper to finish off everything that lati and mence couldn't. Crunch is for cressy and dusknoir. Used to be a Tentacruel.
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Salamence (M) @ Life orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Hp
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Fang
- Dragon Dance

This and latias makes one great combination. I've only had this and latias down against 4 pokes and win the match. I have consider switching hydro pump for draco meteor sense I don't really seen gliscor, hippodawn, and such in the late game sense my other pokemon finished them off. The main reason why this set works so well is keep out of sight until late and let come in and sweep.Imo, this is one of the best late game sweepers in the game right now.Ok this seems right. Strict offense set now.



In conclusion, I want to put point out something if you haven't notice. Besides machamp, this whole team is not affected by toxic pikes and resists stealth rocks pretty well.
Thanks for taking a look, if you need a better explination for something I can try to give it. I'm not that great at explaining things.
 
For starters, Latias shouldn't be running Thunder. At least go for ThunderBolt.

In the big picture, I don't think you should be running 3 choice scarfs (albiet one is to be tricked away). I might consider changing Salamence from a Choice Scarfer to a Life Orb DD sweeper. Since you'd like him to act as your late game sweeper, a set where you're not limited to one attack per switch in would help.

Speaking of which, Very few of your pokemon can switch in and counter a DDMence Magnezone might be able to take an outrage, but After a DD He'lll be slower and likely 2KOed if weakened.

Can give a full rate now... more later.
 
Ok will replace thunder with thunderbolt on latias.

Well I really like choice scarf on salamence since he outruns enemy mences, choice scarf flygon, such. I can try it and see what happens.
Tentacruel might be able to switch in on a draco meteor.

EDIT: I did some calculations and according to them, a draco meteor won't OHKO tentacruel even after a DD. Max evs too.
 
The main problem I see here Scuba, is that you are completely decimated by the likes of any Dragon Dancers that attempt a sweep. Albeit you have Salamence to revenge kill, your only move to stop Gyarados or Salamence would be Outrage. That is an alarming figure when you look at how many steels are out there. After they possibly setup, or kill you, their dragon can easily come back in the latter part of the matches and make it a quick game. That will thus be what I will try to remedy throughout this rate.

Without changing a great amount of Pokemon, the easiest and most obvious move would be to have your Latias change items with Salamence (Salamence can recieve Life Orb). With that exchange, you will be able to outspeed opposing dragon dancers, and possibly get a free kill, when they assume you just made a sacraficial move. In regards to Salamence, barring priority, he can really just tear open the opponent's team.

Having Tentacruel on a team that is primarily offensive seems kind of odd to me. If your sole reason for putting it on there was to counter ape, then we need to change it immediately. While still maintaining an offensive edge, you can still counter him. It's just a matter of playing intelligently and without the basis of luck (unless you've won the lotto of course). Of course, however, Latias will do a decent job at walling Infernape, forcing the switch, and applying an enormous amount of residual damage. Therefore, I'd like to suggest Swords Dance Lucario. Since ape will be getting low on health, fast, it will make sweeping him and hopefully others much easier. It may also apply in helping you set up a Swords Dance, with them trying to save their ape. As it stands, you had no priority to begin with, which worried me on an offensive team.

Overall decent team, just needed a little guidance back towards the light of offense.

Hope I helped!
 
Thanks limitless, this will help out a lot.

Well if I give CS to lati it will need to drop roost and calm mind. And sense you and couple people have suggested, I will put life orb on mence.

Yeah I love tentacreul and I always try to figure out a way to work him on a team. But yeah, he doesn't work so I'll try out lucario.

Thanks for the help limitlessB)

EDIT:Updated.
 
Explain to me why you say at the end "Besides machamp, this whole team is not affected by toxic pikes and resists stealth rocks pretty well." When you have Tentacruel as a spinner ? And as ^^ Limitless says, on a generally offensive team ? I also agree with the SD Luke suggestion.
 
You kind of misunderstood some of my advice.

Give Latias a Choice Scarf. Choice Specs will give you a boat load of power, but as for reasons I've already stated, you'll just get swept by any dragon dancer. Also, think about Thunderbolt over Trick. It would give you coverage over Gyarados, that you really don't have.

Make Salamence a dragon dancer. Take out Draco Meteor. You want a complete offensive beast. With that in mind, I'd change the nature to Adamant. In addition to that, I'd highly consider Fire Fang over Fire Blast, more useful in my opinion.

If I catch anything else, I'll be sure to let you know.
 
WH1T3N1N7A said:
Explain to me why you say at the end "Besides machamp, this whole team is not affected by toxic pikes and resists stealth rocks pretty well." When you have Tentacruel as a spinner ? And as ^^ Limitless says, on a generally offensive team ? I also agree with the SD Luke suggestion.
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What I meant was that all my team except for machamp is not affect by toxic spikes and most of the team take SR pretty well.(except for salamence)
Limitless said:
You kind of misunderstood some of my advice.

Give Latias a Choice Scarf. Choice Specs will give you a boat load of power, but as for reasons I've already stated, you'll just get swept by any dragon dancer. Also, think about Thunderbolt over Trick. It would give you coverage over Gyarados, that you really don't have.

Make Salamence a dragon dancer. Take out Draco Meteor. You want a complete offensive beast. With that in mind, I'd change the nature to Adamant. In addition to that, I'd highly consider Fire Fang over Fire Blast, more useful in my opinion.

If I catch anything else, I'll be sure to let you know.
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I was trying to figure out if I should put thunderbolt or trick on latias so I just put trick on it. Yeah I thought you said choice specs my bad.

Ok that sounds a whole lot better. How does the evs look on it?
 
Scuba Stevee said:
What I meant was that all my team except for machamp is not affect by toxic spikes and most of the team take SR pretty well.(except for salamence)

I was trying to figure out if I should put thunderbolt or trick on latias so I just put trick on it. Yeah I thought you said choice specs my bad.

Ok that sounds a whole lot better. How does the evs look on it?
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Well seeing as how you want to beat other scarfed Latias' and maximizing your power is a must, I'd say the set Ev's and nature look good.
 
can't do a full rate, because I have so much trouble reading these. there arn't any pics.
Okay make sure Salamence's nature is Adamant or, to a lesser extent, jolly.
 
@limitless: Alright thanks.
WH1T3N1N7A said:
I know what you are saying, hence my question why are you using Tentacruel as a rapid spinner ?
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Well I always try to fit him in a team some way because I like it. But yeah it didn't fit so I took him out.
joshe said:
can't do a full rate, because I have so much trouble reading these. there arn't any pics.
Okay make sure Salamence's nature is Adamant or, to a lesser extent, jolly.
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Oh sorry, I haven't had anytime to put some end. I'll try to. Oh yeah I forgot to change it, thanks.
 
You should try running trick on latias too because you might need to cripple some sp defensive walls such as blissey incase your physical sweepers are gone.
 
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