I didn't see that thread either.
However, I do see that my name isn't on the list of eligible voters (despite having made lower voting requirements). I guess that means that my paragraphs were not accepted?
=(
Now, off the top of my head I can think of two reasons as to why this may be:
a) I admitted to not using latios for most of the test, and only relatively little towards the end.
b) I mentioned some things that may have seemed a little to much like theorymon as to my criterion for voting.
I'd like an explanation as to why my paragraphs failed, so that I can improve next time.
For those interested, these were my paragraphs:
EDIT:
I'm not deeply disturbed at all by the fact I can't vote, as I didn't feel strongly either way (and now I don't have to think about anything either), and my vote wouldn't matter anyway. I just would like to no for future reference (maybe I should have read the "how to be a responsible suspect voter" thread more thoroughly?).
However, I do see that my name isn't on the list of eligible voters (despite having made lower voting requirements). I guess that means that my paragraphs were not accepted?
=(
Now, off the top of my head I can think of two reasons as to why this may be:
a) I admitted to not using latios for most of the test, and only relatively little towards the end.
b) I mentioned some things that may have seemed a little to much like theorymon as to my criterion for voting.
I'd like an explanation as to why my paragraphs failed, so that I can improve next time.
For those interested, these were my paragraphs:
1) Characterize your involvement in the test. Did you play consistently throughout the month, or did you gain all your experience at the end of the test? Did you use the suspect avidly yourself or concentrate on observing it in battle?
I did play fairly consistently from the start a little over two weeks before the tests end. At that time I quit playing with my rating account, as my team (which was my standard ladder team; it lacked lati@s) had to be retired due to failing to meet my expectations. My plan was to build a new team fairly quickly and begin playing again with my rating account, however, that did not occur, as I lacked the time to build a new team.
I did, however, use my testing account instead to play for the remainder of suspect. While my time spent playing decreased, it should be noted that I had played enough beforehand so that my standard deviation was still under 60 despite having not played in some time with my main account.
With my testing account I used the old team (to more limited success), and eventually I through together (as in, it is sub-par as I didn't put to much thought into it, I admit; otherwise I would have used my rating account) another team which did contain latios.
It should be noted I often watched games (particularly ReyScarface, who I regularly discussed some issues with), as well as of course noting the use of latios by my opponents, and how I dealt with it. My experience actually using it would then be somewhat limited, unfortunately.
However, I only ever made one modification to my standard team (metagross/ snorlax/ flygon/ magnezone/ gyarados/ mixmence, so it wasn't “triple dragon/triple steel”, although it was somewhat close) was giving my metagross a lum berry for a little while due to the fact that someone using a smeargle lead was on. Therefore, I could get an idea of how this standard ladder team faired.
I also had an old steel-less team, but I do not believe I played more then just a couple of games with it. I do not remember it fairing particularly poorly, interestingly enough (it did have cbtar and scarfmence as two checks, however).
I hope my limited experience actually using latios isn't an issue. I did have a lot of experience using standard ladder teams, and therefore I have a good idea of how these teams fair in the different metagame influenced by the inflated usage of latias.
2) Describe the criteria you will be using to cast your vote. For you, what aspects of a pokemon should be judged when determining its tiering between OU and Uber?
The criteria I will use will be largely based off of the definition provided for the offensive characteristic.
“
Offensive Characteristic
A Pokémon is uber if, in common battle conditions, it is capable of sweeping through a significant portion of teams in the metagame with little effort.”
Looking at the others briefly first:
Support:
It does not consistently make it substantially easier for other pokemon to sweep. For a comparison:
Uxie can pull off the duel screen/memento with much better defenses and only 15 less base speed, and it is UU.
Defensive:
It is simply inferior defensively to latias, which passed. 80/80/110, while sturdy, isn't exactly a wall that can stall out most of the metagame. Fairly common weaknesses add to this.
Now back to offensive.
“if, in common battle conditions, it is capable of sweeping through a significant portion of teams in the metagame with little effort”
I will here be assuming that “little effort” is a calm mind or dragon dance + life orb at most, although also heavily consider the commonly used specs set.
Looking at X-acts thread to get an idea of most teams (in standard, rather then suspect, ladder):
Scizor Salamence Heatran Gyarados Metagross (2 out of these 5 Pokemon are in a typical team)
Scizor is an excellent latios check. I don't have to discuss that here; it makes an excellent revenge killer with pursuit/priority and resists latios's stab. Salamence, without setup, looses to the faster latios. Scarftran can provide a check for (non-DD) latios. Week to surf, so it wouldn't be a counter. Gyradados, without set up, looses to latios. Metagross can come in on latio's dragon attacks, and hit extremely hard in return. Infernape Tyranitar Blissey Latias Swampert Gengar (3 out of these 11 Pokemon are in a typical team) Infernape is countered by latios very effectively. Often forced to switch to physical sets. Tyranitar is always 2HKOed by specs surf and draco meteor. If it can come in safely, however, it will eliminate latios. Blissey can loose to the uncommon calm mind/recover/refresh/dragon pulse set. Otherwise blissey will of course do what she does best. Latias is a suspect. Shouldn't be considered. Swampert (standard) is OHKOed 92% of the time by specs draco meteor when taking stealth rock into account. Would fair better against other sets, but it generally looses. Gengar: Often runs scarf. This complicates matters, but allows gengar to be a check. Latios has better defenses (although is week to gengar's stab) and has equal base speed. Other then latios, this would be half of a typical team. Five of these 10 pokemon could be swept by latios. Only three can switch in. This may be compared with other top threats. Salamence is something none of these most used can counter (although they may be able to come in on predicted attacks, and many are checks). I'm not quite sure yet how I will approach this, as I'm still actually unsure of how I will vote. I'm planning on looking further at the usage statistics, and trying to find out what sort of portions of teams can be swept (and whether it is a significant portion) by latios compared to OU's top threats. I would also like to take note of differences in the latios test ladder compared to the standard ladder usage statistics.
EDIT:
I'm not deeply disturbed at all by the fact I can't vote, as I didn't feel strongly either way (and now I don't have to think about anything either), and my vote wouldn't matter anyway. I just would like to no for future reference (maybe I should have read the "how to be a responsible suspect voter" thread more thoroughly?).