Here's to a Bad OU Team!!! (Not really...RMT)

Okay so I don't really know how to explain this team. I had a previous OU team that was doing okay but not as well as I thought it could, so I added in a few pokemon and got to this. Keep in mind that I am open to any sort of constructive criticism, meaning no negative, pointless comments. Oh and make sure everybody who rates knows these two things...
1. Mamoswine lead is a keeper (unless I find the other lead that is suggested is obviously better for my team).
2. I want to stick in Magnezone somewhere. Steels do a bit of walling on my team and I hate it >.>. I could use help with where to put it.
I can see now that I have a bit of a problem with the variety of types on my team; 3 Water-types, 2 Steel-types. Maybe I can put Magnezone over Kingdra because it isn't that effective for my team. Then, I need a different pokemon to answer my Steel-type problem. I could use some help with that as well.

Well, without further ado, here is my OU team!

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The Lead

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Mamoswine
Ability: Snow Cloak
Adamant @ Focus Sash
6 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
-Stealth Rock
-Ice Shard
-Endeavor
-Earthquake


A beastly starter if used correctly. With all the Steel-type leads out there, Mamoswine is both a blessing and a curse. On one hand, Earthquake OHKOs Jirachi leads and leaves Metagross Leads with roughly 10-20%, making them easy to take down. The speed EVs outruns most Steel-type leads (not Jirachi), Swampert leads, and...well there aren't really any others that I have seen.

I have the option to set up some rocks or attack and I usually end up doing the latter of the two. Depending on the lead, I almost always EQ for massive damage, but I always Endeavor on faster pokemon like Jirachi, then Ice Shard to sweep away the last few HPs. I honestly think this is a great lead and I have used it to great success in the past.


The Mixed Monsters

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Infernape
Ability: Blaze
Naive @ Life Orb
64 Attack/252 SpAttack/192 Speed
-Vacuum Wave
-HP-Ice
-Fire Blast
-Close Combat


Ahh Mixape...my favorite pokemon on this team because it solves the gay Skarmbliss tactics used by so many Stall teams. Close Combat can OHKO a Bold 252 HP/252 Def Blissey with SR damage (nobody runs it...but it is still pretty cool). Fire Blast on Skarmory is pretty self explanatory. I have had a huge problem with Skarmbliss in the past so the EVs should stay where they are. Vacuum Wave is a lovely STAB Priority move. HP-Ice is for OHKOing Salamence, Dragonite, Gliscor, and 2HKO Zapdos, so it is pretty useful. This Infernape also has a nasty habit of sweeping entire teams. This pokemon should probably stay the way it is, if that isn't a problem.

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Kingdra
Ability: Sniper
Hasty @ Life Orb
226 Attack/52 SpAttack/232 Speed
-Draco Meteor
-Hydro Pump
-Waterfall
-Outrage


Very few pokemon resist the Water and Dragon combination, but too bad this is one of my weakest pokemon. I love the typing for Kingdra because it makes for great switch-ins on Fire-type and Water-type attacks (which aren't all that uncommon). Don't get me wrong, this Kingdra has done wonders for me, it just hasn't done as much as I had hoped it would. However, one time I got a crit from Draco Meteor on a Blissey and it OHKOd O_O. This thing is amazing sometimes, for example, I can OHKO any Dragon-type, Fire-type, Water-type, and Rock-type that is thrown at this beast. If anybody has any suggestions on how I could better this Kingdra, I will gladly accept them because I'd rather keep it but I think it would be a good candidate to switch out for Magnezone.


The Physical Freaks
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Ability: Clear Body
Impish @ Leftovers
112 HP/252 Attack/12 Defense/132 Speed
-Rock Polish
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion


This was suggested to me by another person in a different RMT some months back. It used to work fine but with the rising usage of those damned Bulky Waters and recent abundance of Steel-types, this Metagross's only use is to try to take out one pokemon with explosion. It really is the same old Rock Polish Metagross that isn't seen as much anymore. I always get walled by a Bronzong or Skarmory with this guy, but really any pokemon with enough SpAttack or Defense can take this gross down. I was thinking that maybe Magnezone could go here, but then I still have a Steel problem and a Water problem. If Kingdra gets covered by Magnezone, then what should replace this guy?

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Gyarados
Ability: Intimidate
Adamant @ Leftovers
152 HP/108 Attack/100 Defense/144 Speed
-Taunt
-Dragon Dance
-Waterfall
-Stone Edge


This is a Bulky Gyarados that has been modified to be able to outspeed other Bulky Gyaradoses (because you never know what could happen). Ever since I put this pokemon into my team, Gyarados has become my second favorite pokemon EVER. Taunt destroys OU pokemon. Period. Mid-game, nobody expects a Taunt to come there way when all they want to do is setup, status, haze, or phaze. It is a great addition because I always had trouble with Stall teams before, but now Blissey, Skarmory, Bronzong, and Tentacruel can f*cking eat it.


The Cleanup Sweeper

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Empoleon
Ability: Torrent
Modest @ Life Orb
6 HP/252 SpAttack/252 Speed
-Agility
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-HP-Electric


The star of the show! Empoleon is a beast once it solves its Speed problem. With Life Orb, this guy gets around 420 SpAttack and after an Agility it has a Speed stat of 438! Once Blissey is out of the way, my Empoleon can sweep entire teams before even breaking a sweat. Don't even get me started on how cool Torrent is. Some of you may be looking at this and saying, "Why doesn't he just SubPetaya?" Well, I use my Empoleon for cleaning up the rest of my foe's team once they have been damaged. That is why I am running HP-Electric; Bulky Waters give me a problem as Grass Knot doesn't hit as hard as you would think. I don't think I would replace Empoleon with anybody else just because it does such a good job at late game sweeping.​

Thanks for reading and please RMT!!!
 
Ironically, I see an Offensive Gyara weakness here; many Gyara-utilizing teams hold paralyzers for support. With a DD it OHKOs Mamo, 'Nape, Metagross, Empoleon and Gyarados if it runs Stone Edge. Kingdra really can't do anything back.
 
Ironically, I see an Offensive Gyara weakness here; many Gyara-utilizing teams hold paralyzers for support. With a DD it OHKOs Mamo, 'Nape, Metagross, Empoleon and Gyarados if it runs Stone Edge. Kingdra really can't do anything back.

Uhh...no. No Gyarados can OHKO my Metagross with a DD, meaning that I can explode in its face. Empoleon resists everything but EQ, and when it survives that (if*...but it probably will) I can HP-Electric for a OHKO.
 
Uhh...no. No Gyarados can OHKO my Metagross with a DD, meaning that I can explode in its face. Empoleon resists everything but EQ, and when it survives that (if*...but it probably will) I can HP-Electric for a OHKO.
Mm not quite, empoleon can be OHKO'd by a timid life orb jolteon thunderbolt.
 
When did Jolteon come into this? I'm not an idiot; if Jolteon comes in on a water pokemon I'm smart enough to move to Mamoswine.
 
This team has avearage synergy. But it is completely swept by LO Adamant Gyarados. It KO's every single pokemon in your team with SR on. It deals
Damage: 81.79% - 96.22% To Kingdra with Stone Edge. A KO after SR.
Now you say metagross can take care of it. Well, it is not true. As Gyarados
Gyarados deals Damage: 109.73% - 129.18% with EQ. Everthing else in your team gets KO.
You also say Empoleon can survive its slaught. Well Gyarados deals a minimum of 164.08% Damage to Empoleon
with EQ. Kingdra seems slow for me. I suggest Raplacing it with a revenge killer. Since Salamence with Dragon Claw instead of Outrage
gives this team problems. I suggest replacing it with ScarfLatias.


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Latias (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
It pairs up with Empoleon giving it perfect synergy. Revenge kills Gyarados with a DD, as well as Salamence's with a DD. You could run a more bulky set with 64 HP evs and 192 Speed Evs with a Timid nature. Still Outspeeds Salamence, but loses to other ScarfGengar and ScarfLatias to gain more survivability.

Overall Nice team.
 
ahaha that was a surprising calc with my Metagross. The Latias sounds like a good idea I'll test it out. Thanks a lot Pandex =D. It looks a bit weak though, does a Modest nature sound like a possibility or does it completely wreck the set?
 
When did Jolteon come into this? I'm not an idiot; if Jolteon comes in on a water pokemon I'm smart enough to move to Mamoswine.
Never called you an idiot but a smart trainer predicts a switch and would run his shadow ball which considering a LO jolt and his hi SpATK with mamoswines neutrality can 1-2HKO it.
Also, is empoleon running HP electric your only vap counter or did I miss one?
 
Well, Empoleon runs HP-Electric to do away with all of the bulky waters (not including Swampert) but Gyarados can Taunt it leaving Wishstall Vaporeons with Surf and Ice Beam, but if it carries HP-Electric Gyarados isn't going to counter so well.
 
Well, Empoleon runs HP-Electric to do away with all of the bulky waters (not including Swampert) but Gyarados can Taunt it leaving Wishstall Vaporeons with Surf and Ice Beam, but if it carries HP-Electric Gyarados isn't going to counter so well.
Oo I missed the taunt on gyrados, very nice, uhm shoddy vaporeons generally would carry it, my vaporeon doesn't because I run shoddy teams to test for wi-fi(I run a toxic stall vaporeon) so yeah that could very easily hold it, but use that gyrados taunt to your advantage and switch to one to counter an electric or go with a move to OHKO one because i've seen that happen SO commonly. ^-^
 
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