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hahahahahaha sure hip, we'll do it this way then.

firstly, i don't have two different forms of inspection, i actually have a very very weak inspection. let me explain to you how it works.

each night, i pm the hosts with a list of user, they just tell me 'some of these users were from this faction, some were from this faction'. nothing else, no numbers nothing. so its only useful if i get them ALL from the same faction.

the other power i had, is a one time use power which is used INSTEAD of the above. all it does is, give me the numbers left in the game, like numbers guy was.

right now, onto more interesting stuff, let me paraphrase your claim again:

I helped find raikage, then subsequently moi. one a mole from the begnion senate, the other one from the lopt sect (well not confirmed but his post on the mafia forums where he initially lynched himself sorta confirmed he wasn't village).

you, on the other hand, were one of the people who claimed village who we never trusted fully, which is why you weren't given much info. so the day we bust you, you suddenly come out of hiding saying "hey wait, im the villager here!"

plus, funny thing, people who actually had a decent role and were village don't quick to jump and go "PM ME IM VILLAGE PM ME IM VILLAGE". they wait a little to atleast see who all is claiming village, which is what i did.

additionally, if alice truly was the bad guy, i'm wondering why all these random aliases who were never voting or atleast not voting like the rest of the villagers suddenly decided to vote with you?

i mean, if im the one who is supposedly lopt sect, shouldn't all these random aliases come from my side?

here are a few conversations with you/moi from yesterday:

[18:05:40] <@thunda> [14:19] <@Shiv> so moi
[18:05:41] <@thunda> [14:19] <@Shiv> what are you really
[18:05:41] <@thunda> [14:19] <@Shiv> i know you aren't what you claimed
[18:05:43] <@thunda> [14:19] <@Shiv> :)
[18:05:43] <@thunda> [14:19] <@moi> I am telling the truth
[18:05:45] <@thunda> [14:19] <@thunda> yeah
[18:05:45] <@thunda> [14:19] <@thunda> paste your real role pm
[18:05:47] <@thunda> [14:19] <@moi> of what I claimed
[18:05:48] <@thunda> [14:19] <@thunda> now
[18:05:49] <@thunda> [14:19] <@Shiv> lol
[18:05:50] <@thunda> [14:19] <@thunda> or get lynched
[18:05:51] <@thunda> [14:19] <@Shiv> hahaha
[18:05:51] <@thunda> [14:19] <@Shiv> simple dude
[18:05:53] <@thunda> [14:20] <@moi> suit yourself
[18:05:54] <@thunda> [14:20] <@Shiv> i got back the numbers
[18:05:55] <@thunda> [14:20] <@Shiv> after taking the confirmed GM's
[18:05:55] <@thunda> [14:20] <@thunda> weve known since d3
[18:05:57] <@thunda> [14:20] <@Shiv> we had 3 extra claims
[18:05:58] <@thunda> [14:20] <@thunda> you are bad
[18:05:59] <@thunda> [14:20] <@thunda> weve been biding our time
[18:05:59] <@thunda> [14:20] <@Shiv> yours was one of them
[18:06:00] <@thunda> [14:20] <@thunda> the time is now
[18:06:03] <@thunda> [14:20] <@Shiv> if you wanna come out in the open, we could work together
[18:06:03] <@thunda> [14:20] <@thunda> yeah
[18:06:04] <@thunda> [14:20] <@thunda> and kill the begnion
[18:06:05] <@thunda> [14:20] <@thunda> reveal yourself now
[18:06:05] <@thunda> [14:20] <@thunda> and we kill the begnion
[18:06:07] <@thunda> [14:20] <@thunda> or die
[18:06:07] <@thunda> [14:20] <@thunda> to lynch
[18:06:08] <@thunda> [14:20] <@moi> rofl
[18:06:09] <@thunda> [14:21] <@moi> suit your own needs
[18:06:10] <@thunda> [14:21] <@Shiv> okay man
[18:06:11] <@thunda> [14:21] * Shiv sets mode: +b moi!*@*
[18:06:12] <@thunda> [14:21] * moi was kicked by Shiv (cya)

thats with moi, right after that he made that post saying "whatever if you knew you could've stopped ike's death."

and with you:

[18:06:14] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:26:20] <Shiv> hi hip
[18:06:15] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:26:22] <Shiv> you here?
[18:06:17] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:26:35] <Hipmonlee> i waS JUST ABOUT to go
[18:06:18] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:26:41] <Hipmonlee> accidental caps
[18:06:19] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:26:52] <Shiv> do you have like 5 minutes
[18:06:20] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:26:53] <Shiv> for mafia
[18:06:21] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:27:29] <Hipmonlee> yeah I guess
[18:06:22] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:27:44] <Shiv> well thing is
[18:06:23] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:27:49] <Shiv> i know you arent greil mercenary
[18:06:23] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:27:51] <Shiv> so what are you
[18:06:25] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:27:51] <Shiv> lol
[18:06:26] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:28:11] <Hipmonlee> im a greil mercenary
[18:06:27] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:28:27] <Shiv> no you arent lol
[18:06:28] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:28:35] <Hipmonlee> yeah I am
[18:06:29] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:28:45] <Shiv> we got back some number stoday
[18:06:29] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:28:47] <Shiv> numbers*
[18:06:30] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:28:55] <Shiv> and after counting people who were surely clean
[18:06:32] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:28:59] <Shiv> you were left out
[18:06:33] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:29:00] <Hipmonlee> numbers?
[18:06:34] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:29:13] <Hipmonlee> your numbers are wrong then
[18:06:35] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:29:15] <Shiv> did you not read my role when i died
[18:06:36] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:29:19] <Shiv> nope, those aren't wrong
[18:06:38] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:29:59] <Hipmonlee> well then your counting of people who were surely clean are wrong then
[18:06:39] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:30:30] <Hipmonlee> what are your numbers
[18:06:41] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:31:20] <Shiv> no those people have been cleaned by me or an inspector
[18:06:44] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:31:49] <Hipmonlee> everyone but me?
[18:06:44] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:32:03] <Shiv> no there are one or two more
[18:06:45] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:32:08] <Hipmonlee> someone has misled you
[18:06:46] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:32:08] <Hipmonlee> if you believe I am not a gm
[18:06:47] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:32:21] <Shiv> see here is the thing lol
[18:06:48] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:32:40] <Shiv> a) you have not been active at all, which is very unlike you especially seeing how you played last game as a villager
[18:06:50] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:32:56] <Shiv> b) your role hasnt been proven AT all and is actually a good role to claim
[18:06:52] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:32:58] <Hipmonlee> yeah I have been busy
[18:06:53] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:33:11] <Hipmonlee> why not ask me to prove it then
[18:06:54] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:33:13] <Shiv> c) the numbers speak for themselves
[18:06:55] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:33:17] <Shiv> how can you prove it?
[18:06:55] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:33:17] <Hipmonlee> how could I have proven it at all
[18:06:57] <@thunda> [16:43] <@Shiv> [21:33:25] <Hipmonlee> hooker someone
[18:06:58] <@thunda> [16:44] <@Shiv> [21:33:29] <Hipmonlee> I'll unblock them
[18:06:59] <@thunda> [16:44] <@Shiv> [21:40:32] <Hipmonlee> goodnight

but anyway, you tried. i guess thats good enough!

to the village, if you don't want to read this post the result is, hip is bad, vote chip.

oh and about ike, it wasn't my decision. ike wasn't revived because a) we didn't have the ragnell anymore and b) his kills dont stack which means he can only kill people from factions that killed greil's the night before and till that point had been a very useless role. with my info, we were able to find out all the moles that were still there in our camp.
 
Yeah that is the conversation we had yesterday. I am confused why you are posting it?

I am a GM Shiv, I am pretty damn sure that you are not..

Also why is thunda quoting the conversation with me?

Have a nice day.
 
I am a GM Shiv, I am pretty damn sure that you are not..

Have a nice day.

Your voting for Alice is enough reason to cast doubt on your alliance with the GMs.

Let's assume Alice is infact Mafia

that's cool, let's lynch her

However, we have several confirmed suspicious people voting to lynch Alice - losing someone on purpose would not benefit the opposing mafia when they belive they can win a lynch.

Fpr example, Mrs Potts, who flat out admits to being mafia as seen here

Lynch Mrs. Potts

tbh day 4 would've so much easier guys you could've stopped the death of ike if you knew so much!

is voting for Alice. Yeah, that makes sense to me too.

I believe Hipmonlee's words are trying to throw the village into a confused state, allowing the mafia to score an easy lynch, thus weakening the village's greatest strength - numbers.

So this brings me to one conclusion

LYNCH CHIP
 
thunda is quoting that because I had shown him that conversation yesterday but do not keep logs. He quoted it so I could post here.

Plus, as Puggy said, everyone voting for Alice is either a confirmed mafia or a suspected one.

Its interesting that you ask people to believe you, who was only initially active and allied with moi and gp, both of whom didn't turn out GM over me, someone who's death proved they were GM and then was REVIVED by the village.

In any case, the village always has a BG does it not? And if my death pm was fake, there still hasn't been any other villager claiming a mayor role.

You fight a losing battle my friend!

Also, because I don't want people to not bother to read the thread and vote wrongly, villagers - vote chip.
 
Actually Puggy said they are suspected as being mafia because they are voting for Alice.. Nice try..

I dont know who Chip is, but I know you arent trustworthy and I know who Alice is.

Have a nice day.
 
Secondly, why was he so adamant he should be resurrected. At this point regardless of whatever info he may have had, reviving Ike into an alias unknown by Raikage was the villages best hope of victory.
I want to point out that this is bullshit, my role only works if a gm died last night, not only have I get it right if only one kil happens, but we only had limited members left who had to die. Info>Suicide killing
 
No actually it isnt. At this stage once we are outvoted we will lose. If you were hidden out there somewhere we had at least a glimmer of hope, at the moment, I just cant see the mafia letting us win this game.

The fact is that GMs will die every night from here on in.

Resurrecting Shiv was a ridiculous decision and I really have no idea why it was made.

Have a nice day.
 
moi is Mrs. Potts and is a proven mafia thanks to my own log as well as his own post on the anonymous forums.

i'm just saying that since 10 random aliases who haven't done much till now come out and help vote for alice, they should be mafia shouldn't they? :)

also, ike himself speaks out of the grave to support me while arguing against hip? whoa!! i wonder what that means!!

edit: cocks....i love them
 
Oh also it is pretty funny how all say that moi claimed bad with self voting, but all forget this guy:

Scar said:
You know, I think I'm a kind of superhero. A force for good. I will not rest until justice prevails.

I promise to kill the fifth (5th) user to vote against justice (if he withdraws his vote, I will kill the next one instead, so if I were you I wouldn't vote in 6th either). I invite the other mafia to kill whoever votes at some other arbitrary number. I also promise that any user voting for justice will be immune from my wrath for two nights. Feel free to believe it or not.

Note: quite obviously, justice is defined by what I think it is - I leave it as an exercise to the players to understand what I mean by justice
Note 2: aren't we running out of NPCs already?
Guess who he is voting (Alice) right now
Also I'm nor supporting you with this, nor arguing against hip.
I'm presenting facts that all should know, that are supporting Shiv and arguing against hip
 
oof! i was right!

but you guys didn't want to win this lynch anyway, i'm quite sure you had another purpose for this whole charade.

what it was, we'll know soon enough i guess.

Edit: Could Sanaki please PM me?
 
Due to various and numerous complications with the recent lynch that my judgment is apparently invalid on and that I would prefer Mekkah address, and also because I am not in a mental state fit to continue to run the game and just barely physically (really sick), I am pausing the game until he returns. I am sorry to all for the inconvenience. Don'[t you dare start shit either about my pausing the game because I was nearly fucking institutionalised last week and I am just barely stable as it is. Sorry, guys ^_^
 
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