The Unrespected fella, a suspect RMT

Hello fellow Smogoners! My name is Gir!, and recently I joined the suspect ladder trying to get a vote. With some help from a friend who I wont mention, but who knows who he is, I made a team that has given me mixed results. For some reason, I cant make it past the 1200, so please, help me improve my team.
Changes in bold

The Lead
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Mamoswine@ Focus Sash
Jolly
4 Hp/252 Attk/252 Spd
-Stealth Rock
-Endeavor
-Ice Shard
-Earthquake

Good, old LeadSwine. This is a guy Tab suggested instead of Weavile, he is able to be a really threatening force if you dont know how to kill him. Fairly standard moveset, but hey, if aint broke, dont fix it. Stealth Rock on the first turn, then attack or switch accordingly. Very useful against most suspect leads and the strongest Ice Shard in the game

@Azelf-Stealth Rock, Ice Shard or Endeavor depending of what it does, Ice Shard for the kill
@Metagross: Stealth Rock, EQ,EQ or Ice shard if he is weak enough
@Tyranitar:SR, EQ, Ice Shard
@Mamoswine:SR,EQ, Ice Shard
@ Aerodactyl:SR, Ice Shard twice(not sure if its a 2hko)
@Skymin: Ice Shard(twice if needed)


The Revenge Killer
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Latios@ Choice Scarf
Timid
6 Hp/252 SpA/252 Spd
-Draco Meteor
-Trick
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
The male twin of the Latis brothers. This guy is just an awesome revenge killer, Draco Meteor hurts even Blissey (granted, not a huge damage, but enough to make her Wish or Softboil) and helps me get rid of all those pesky Dragons, specially Garchomp if he just killed one of my guys. Originally, I had GK over trick, but a choice Scarf destroys stall and gives me more freedom to attack

The Suspect flubber

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Blissey@ Leftovers
Bold
Natural Cure
4 Hp/252 SpA/ 252 Def
-Calm Mind
-Thunderbolt
-Flamethrower
-Softboiled
The suspect ladder is a place filled with special attackers, and most of them have the power to hurt even the pink version of the Great Wall of China, however, Calm Mind stops thats. Usually, I go straight for the flamethrower to scout the switch in(mainly Garchomp) and, with some luck, get a burn.

The Stall Breaker
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Garchomp@Choice Band
Jolly
252 Attack/ 252 Spd/6Hp
-Outrage
-Fire Fang
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge

Hey guys! Missed me? Thats right, CB Chomp, probably the hardest Garchomp version to counter, with a huge attack and perfect coverage, this guy is just a beast. Outspeeding any and all base 100 Pokemons and anything slower, and the ability to survive a +2 LO Lucario ES make this land shark a living machine of destruction

The Steel Bird
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Skarmory@ Leftovers
Careful
252 Hp/6 Attk/252 SpDef
Keen Eye
-Spikes
-Roost
-Whirlwind
-Brave Bird


Specially defensive Skarmory is just win. His defense is already huge, so even with no EV investment, he will receive physical hits really well. Spikes is for Stall Teams who require a lot of switching, and Whirlwind is to phaze. Once again, a change Tab suggested, I always wanted to use this thing and thanks to him I now have a reason to
The Janitor
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Lucario@Life Orb
Adamant
252 Attk/252 Spd/4 def
-Sword Dance
-Close Combat
-Crunch
-Extremespeed
Lucario, the Pokemon who, thanks to theorymon, is a key member of both, OU and Uber teams. After a SD, this guy runs rampant through anything(and I mean, ANYTHING), even Sakrmory, the almighty Metal Bird falls in pains against the power of the master of Aura
 
I'm not exactly sure why you think that Bronzong will help counter Scizor, that's not possible. I understand you think Bronzong is a badass Pokemon for being bulky as hell, but it is not and does not handle Scizor. Something that can replace Bronzong and handle Scizor would be Rotom-H. I don't have anymore to say about this team, I just wanted to get that Bronzong and Scizor thing straight.
 
I'm not exactly sure why you think that Bronzong will help counter Scizor, that's not possible. I understand you think Bronzong is a badass Pokemon for being bulky as hell, but it is not and does not handle Scizor. Something that can replace Bronzong and handle Scizor would be Rotom-H. I don't have anymore to say about this team, I just wanted to get that Bronzong and Scizor thing straight.
Well, I didnt mean it was a counter, more like a Scizor annoyer, but he is by no means a counter, thank you for claryfing that
 
There's a few pretty big problems here.

First of all, as Venom pointed out, you don't have anything that can take a CB U-turn, which is going to 2-3HKO even Bronzong, so you're going to find it extremely difficult to survive for long. Seeing as you already have a Blissey, why not simply use specially defensive Skarmory instead of Bronzong, which lets you counter the same threats, while being able to take U-turns, set up spikes and Roost off damage.
Seeing as losing Bronzong means you don't have Stealth Rock, you should probably have a look at changing your lead. Jolly Mamoswine with either Life Orb or Focus Sash and a moveset of Ice Shard/Earthquake/Stealth Rock and either Stone Edge if you're using Life Orb, or Endeavor if you're using Focus Sash achieves the main goals of that Weavile just as well, and has the added benefit of setting up SR and being more useful later on.

The other main problem is that you can't beat stall - your only real hope of taking down stall is to predict a Gyarados switch in with Infernape fairly early on to 2HKO with Stone Edge.
A pretty quick fix for this would be to give Latios Trick over Grass Knot - Grass Knot isn't going to be hitting all that much, and if you predict well, Trick can make stall collapse a lot quicker than normal.
If you're willing to deviate from the current team a bit more, a CB Garchomp would work well in place of Infernape, as it's both more effective against the majority of teams, and incredibly effective against stall, which it 2HKOs every member of with a bit of prediction. Garchomp also has the added benefit of lasting a lot longer than Infernape does.

The one thing that I'd be concerned about which can't be fixed without drastic changes is how Blissey invites physical attackers to come in. This is particularly problematic as you don't really have a reliable pokemon to take physical hits - if you use Skarmory this would be remedied to an extent, although giving Lucario an easy way to get a Swords Dance is a really bad idea on a team like this. If you run Garchomp, you can survive a +2 LO Extremespeed at 90% or so, but that's far from being idea, and if you keep using MixApe, you should try out Mach Punch for a way of revenge killing Lucario.
Speaking of Infernape, you should use Overheat over Flamethrower. The additional power is really important when you're using minimal Special Attack EVs, and the downside of Overheat is pretty unimportant in this case.

I hope this helped, and good luck
 
Thanks for the tips Tab, I tried out the Specially defensive Skarmory, and the things just plainly rocks. Any other suggestions on how to improve my team? Anyone?
 
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