New OU Team Major Update

Drewberry09

Well since my first team was bad i have had another go at it and hopefully this is better i would like people to comment on this to see if i am getting better or worse at this lol.

Any help appreciated

And now for the team

Changes in bold thanks to GoldChocobo for the majority of help with my team =]

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Azelf @ Light Clay
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Jolly the only one i have
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Speed, 6 Defence
~ U-Turn
~ Explosion
~ Reflect
~ Stealth Rock

My lead to the team swampert became useless and a one trick pony with me after i stealth rocked there never seemed to be anything else. The move set is bad on this and could use with some tweaking i couldn't think of anything but this sets up stealth rock and protection well and then u-turns off after it's done it's job but i'm still not sold on it.


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Ambipom @ Leftovers
Ability: Technician
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Spe, 6 SpA
~ Baton Pass
~ Nasty Plot
~ Swift
~ Taunt / Thunderbolt

People said i need support so this is my attempt what you think ? This is my second supporter to the team just to give my team a boost in special attacks which 3 of my pokemon this pokemon is a team player and not many people expect to see it so won't know how to deal with it and as it's the fastest nasty plot baton passer it supports my team nicely.

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Porygon 2 @ Leftovers
Ability: Bold
Nature: Trace
EVs: 6 Attack, 252 HP, 216 SpDef, 40 SpA
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunderbolt
~ toxic
~ Recover

Another Sweeper my anwser to garydos and salamance as suggested. With it's good defences it is quite a wall aswell being able to take huge hits of salamance and survive is a testament to it in itself


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Togekiss @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
~ Air Slash
~ Aura Sphere
~ Thunder Wave
~ Roost

Sweeper. A hell of an annoying pokemon if it works and still good if not
A personal favourite. here to take down the grass types really and good at it's job i have also changed this to make it even more annoying while taking choice scarf does make it slower it will still annoy you to the point of crying air slash and thunder wave really help this to stick around and with leftovers helps it keep healthy if it does get hit as it's defences aren't too horrible.


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Gengar @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Sp.Attack, 6 Def
~ Hypnosis
~ Shadow Ball
~ Thunderbolt
~ Focus Blast

The revenge killer to take out major threats in the game this was to replace frosslass as it was much too fragile and abit slower than i need so i changed it for the boss ghost. =]


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Gliscor @ Life Orb
Ability: Hyper Cutter
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 182Hp 112Atk 216Spe
~ U-Turn
~ Roost
~ Earthquake
~ Knock Off

Protection love the U-turn as well comes in to do a job then u-turns out at the sign of trouble (ice) annoying to get past if your out of ice. this is another Defence pokemon that is anoying to take down and when it's job is done or runs into trouble it can U-Turn off and open my team up again gives me options.


So thats my team please don't hate on it just give me suggestions on how to improve it. If you think it needs differen't pokemon suggest away. Just one rule maximum OU pokemon 5 just a rule i have with myself.
Thankyou
 
I have a question : Why do you use Roar to a Baton Pass Vaporeon? I suggest you give it some attack like Surf or Acid Armor. :D
 
@pollei: roar can help against...skarmory for example. but, really, having an attack on it would be nice so taunt won't stop it completely
uh...edit: for gliscor, it looks more like a support set, which calls for leftovers instead of life orb. Froslass, with specs, destiny bond won't work that well. trick would be a lot better (I remember that it has trick...)
 
luungoc2005 said:
@pollei: roar can help against...skarmory for example. but, really, having an attack on it would be nice so taunt won't stop it completely
uh...edit: for gliscor, it looks more like a support set, which calls for leftovers instead of life orb. Froslass, with specs, destiny bond won't work that well. trick would be a lot better (I remember that it has trick...)
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While it is also support Gliscor i need it to pack a punch and if i set up wish it will be ok and when it gets in trouble it U-Turns out of there.

As for frosslass i don't like trick in theory it's nice but frosslass can't afford a turn and if someone is a problem i destiny bond as it's usually faster.

Also with Vaporeon it works with Azelf so i'm happy to take a risk with it
 
Sorry but I don't think this team is the best.

Azelf isn't the bulkiest pokemon. While you SR on the first turn, your opponent can attack you, KOing you without that Focus Sash. If you want a Duel Screener, I suggest using Azelf's cousin.

Uxie@Light Clay
Impish Levitate
252 Hp, 180 Def, 76 Spd
~Reflect
~Light Screen
~Memento/U-turn
~Stealth Rock

Uxie is bulky enough to survive without a Sash. Under a Reflect and Light Screen, its incredibly hard to take out. This will get you Duel Screens reliably. And SR.
Problem with Uxie is the no real offense. So you can use memento to cause a switch. Or you can use U-turn to bring out another pokemon.
I don't think Duel Screens is best for the lead role, but I guess you can try it.

Vaporeon should have at least one move. Give it Surf over Roar.

Sadly, I think Dusknoir is outclassed by Rotom-H. One with Overheat, Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, and Will o the wisp simply serves as a mixed wall better than Dusknoir.
But if you wanna use Dusknoir, give him pain split over Thunderpunch for some sort of recovery.

Your Togekiss doesn't look right. If you wanna make him a sweeper, you need Nasty Plot on there somewhere. I suggest you replace Thunderwave with Nasty Plot to do some real damage. And give him the standard 252 Hp, 152 Sp. Atk, 104 Spd Ev spread. And Leftovers.

Sadly, Gengar can do exactly what your Frosslass does but better. It has the same speed, and a lot more Punch.
One with Shadow Ball, Hp Ice, Thunderbolt, and Destinybond/Explosion would replace your frosslass. Sadly Frosslass won't revenge kill much, so feel free to give a choice scarf to Gengar.

Gliscor is extremely bulky, so don't go wasting its Hp with Life Orb. If you wanna turn him into an attacker, give him Swords Dance over U-turn and Stone Edge over Brick Break.

That main problem I have with this team is the lack of any real attack power. A Stall team would rip this apart. I really think you need a Stat upper. You have a duel screener, but no one to fully use it and set up.

If you follow my suggestions then you'll have NP Kiss and SD Glisc. Those are already pretty Bulky and don't really need Support form Screens.

I see a pretty big Scizor weakness. I suggest using a NP mixape.

Infernape@Life Orb
Naive, Blaze
64 Atk, 252 Sp. Atk, 192 Spd
~ Nasty Plot
~ Fire Blast
~ Close Combat
~ Grass Knot

Infernape's fraitility is solved by Duel Screens, allowing it to set up. Fire counters Scizor, and BPs wont ko with Screens. Close combat for coverage and Grass knot to hit Swamperts. I think you should replace this over Togekiss since both can NP and this offers more coverage.

Hope I helped.
 
Hyunwoo95 said:
Sorry but I don't think this team is the best.

Azelf isn't the bulkiest pokemon. While you SR on the first turn, your opponent can attack you, KOing you without that Focus Sash. If you want a Duel Screener, I suggest using Azelf's cousin.

Uxie@Light Clay
Impish Levitate
252 Hp, 180 Def, 76 Spd
~Reflect
~Light Screen
~Memento/U-turn
~Stealth Rock

Uxie is bulky enough to survive without a Sash. Under a Reflect and Light Screen, its incredibly hard to take out. This will get you Duel Screens reliably. And SR.
Problem with Uxie is the no real offense. So you can use memento to cause a switch. Or you can use U-turn to bring out another pokemon.
I don't think Duel Screens is best for the lead role, but I guess you can try it.

Vaporeon should have at least one move. Give it Surf over Roar.

Sadly, I think Dusknoir is outclassed by Rotom-H. One with Overheat, Thunderbolt, Shadow Ball, and Will o the wisp simply serves as a mixed wall better than Dusknoir.
But if you wanna use Dusknoir, give him pain split over Thunderpunch for some sort of recovery.

Your Togekiss doesn't look right. If you wanna make him a sweeper, you need Nasty Plot on there somewhere. I suggest you replace Thunderwave with Nasty Plot to do some real damage. And give him the standard 252 Hp, 152 Sp. Atk, 104 Spd Ev spread. And Leftovers.

Sadly, Gengar can do exactly what your Frosslass does but better. It has the same speed, and a lot more Punch.
One with Shadow Ball, Hp Ice, Thunderbolt, and Destinybond/Explosion would replace your frosslass. Sadly Frosslass won't revenge kill much, so feel free to give a choice scarf to Gengar.

Gliscor is extremely bulky, so don't go wasting its Hp with Life Orb. If you wanna turn him into an attacker, give him Swords Dance over U-turn and Stone Edge over Brick Break.

That main problem I have with this team is the lack of any real attack power. A Stall team would rip this apart. I really think you need a Stat upper. You have a duel screener, but no one to fully use it and set up.

If you follow my suggestions then you'll have NP Kiss and SD Glisc. Those are already pretty Bulky and don't really need Support form Screens.

I see a pretty big Scizor weakness. I suggest using a NP mixape.

Infernape@Life Orb
Naive, Blaze
64 Atk, 252 Sp. Atk, 192 Spd
~ Nasty Plot
~ Fire Blast
~ Close Combat
~ Grass Knot

Infernape's fraitility is solved by Duel Screens, allowing it to set up. Fire counters Scizor, and BPs wont ko with Screens. Close combat for coverage and Grass knot to hit Swamperts. I think you should replace this over Togekiss since both can NP and this offers more coverage.

Hope I helped.
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Hyunwoo is in theory correct but I don't even understand why you have a dual screen azelf lead? Generally Dual Screen should be set up something much more bulkier and actually in late game as some leads carry taunt screwing your opening strategy. Use the general SR lead off and get another dual screener later in your team I recommend Cresselia

Link for Azelf Set. http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/azelf

Disagree heavily with your togekiss comment T-Wave combined with Air Slash gives a massive flinch/para rate.

Scizor weakness....WTF r u on about. He has a Vaporeon and Gliscor both resistant to BP Scizor's most known move Gliscor takes about 25% from a CB U-Turn and like 15 from BP he is not Scizor weak. SD scizor maybe but Dusk carries Fire Punch easy Kill.
 
He said Togekiss was a sweeper, so I thought Nasty Plot would help him achive that.

Vaporeon had no attack moves so evetually Scizor would kill it. and at a glance 5 outta 6 would die from him, gliscor being the exception. I considerd that a threat. But I forogt Dusknoir had fire punch so I guess scizor was handled. Just ignore my last scizor statement.
 
Thankyou to both for the help my team is updated now with a new poekom and some tweaks here and there.

Azelf has been put down to just refelct and does it's job very well with the speed and HP given to her as it can u-turn out of there and it only sets up 2 things then it goes but a bonus if it doesn't which ends up using explosion anyway.

Gliscor needs to have that as thats whats it's best at and with aqua ring about it doesn't feel it as much.

Togekiss acts as both as it can sweep because it won't let the player do anything at all sometimes i am happy with it and it has no need for nasty plot.

I have given an attack to vaporeon so it's not left deserted.

And Frosslass does more than fine at revenge killing.

so what do people think to the new well kinda looking side.
 
Okay first off. I don't know why your giving vaporeon baton pass and substitute. You don't even have sweepers or anything on your team that will boost stats..

If your planing on leaving that in get gliscor to have life orb/ leftovers and let it have swords dance.. Make your team more useful for building up stats. That's what's basically your team.

Anyways good luck
 
skizoo said:
Okay first off. I don't know why your giving vaporeon baton pass and substitute. You don't even have sweepers or anything on your team that will boost stats..

If your planing on leaving that in get gliscor to have life orb/ leftovers and let it have swords dance.. Make your team more useful for building up stats. That's what's basically your team.

Anyways good luck
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Well i gues i could do that any idea what to change substitute for then ?

What do people think to ambipon instead of vaporeon as a nasty plot baton passer only thing is a woon't get the health boost each move.
 
I would just use a standard Wish Vaporeon.

Vaporeon@Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SpA
Nature: Bold
-Wish
-Protect
-Surf
-Hidden Power Electric

Hidden Power Electric is a 2HKO on Gyarados while he can't usually manage more than 50% to Vaporeon and Wish can replenish any damage you take.

So, if you change your current set to this one and give Frosslass a choice scarf to revenge kill Salamence you can replace Porygon2. I'm not really sure what you could use in his place, though because I can't see what you're trying to do with this team, it just look like you picked 6 different pokemon at random.
 
Atheist Cult said:
I would just use a standard Wish Vaporeon.

Vaporeon@Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SpA
Nature: Bold
-Wish
-Protect
-Surf
-Hidden Power Electric

Hidden Power Electric is a 2HKO on Gyarados while he can't usually manage more than 50% to Vaporeon and Wish can replenish any damage you take.

So, if you change your current set to this one and give Frosslass a choice scarf to revenge kill Salamence you can replace Porygon2. I'm not really sure what you could use in his place, though because I can't see what you're trying to do with this team, it just look like you picked 6 different pokemon at random.
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How is it at random at all it's pokemon i like yeah but the set up is still the same.

Azelf Lead and support.

Vaporeon Support.

Togekiss, Sweeper with paraflinch can pick off a team when switched in.

Porygon 2, Acts as revenge and a wall plus anwsers to major OU threats.

Frosslass sweeper can take a team at some points but acts as revenge as well with porygon 2 to take down threats.

Gliscor Wall great defence aswell as counters for Scizor and Lucario.

Hows that random it is a basis of any team just because i haven't gone with the most popular or even best pokemon in the jobs doesn't mean it's random i'd just like some different pokemon in my team.

Though i am gonna change my Vaporeon to an Ambipom just so the support can boost my special attackers which is 3 of my pokemon.
 
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