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DPP Scizor (Update)*

Here are the extra sections I promised. They have now been proofread.

<h4>Ubers</h4>
[EVs]
<p>When using Choice Band Scizor in Ubers, it is advised to use an Adamant nature and an EV spread of either 200 HP / 56 Atk / 252 SpD or 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe. The bulkier EV spread allows Scizor to survive a boosted Thunder from Latias after taking Stealth Rock damage, while the more powerful EV spread sacrifices durability for the extra power to gain several KOs.</p>

<p>When using the Uber Trapper set, it is best to use an EV spread of 176 HP / 100 Atk / 232 SpD with an Adamant nature. The Attack EVs allow Scizor to always 2HKO Rayquaza with Bullet Punch after it takes Stealth Rock damage. The HP and Special Defense EVs allow Scizor to take the many Ice- and Dragon-type attacks of Ubers relatively well.</p>

<p>The Uber lead should use an EV spread of 248 HP / 10 Atk / 252 SpD. The heavy investment in HP and Special Defense allows Scizor to not only survive any Fire-type attack from Deoxys-S, but will also allow Scizor to become a useful switch-in to Ice- and Dragon-type attacks later, thanks to Roost.</p>

<p>Bulky Uber Scizor should always use a Careful nature, and it is recommended to use an EV spread of 244 HP / 22 Atk / 76 Def / 168 SpD. The HP and Defense investment allow Scizor to never be 2HKOed by a Choice Band Garchomp's Outrage after Stealth Rock, while the Special Defense investment allows Scizor to take powerful Special Attacks, such as a Choice Specs Palkia's Spacial Rend. If you need Scizor to almost always survive two Thunders from Latias after Stealth Rock damage, and two Choice Specs Draco Meteors from Modest Dialga, then use the EV spread of 248 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD with a Careful nature. This comes at a cost though; a Choice Band Garchomp will have a high chance of 2HKOing Scizor with Outrage after Stealth Rock damage.</p>

<h4>Ubers</h4>
[Other Options]
<p>Swords Dance Scizor is most certainly a viable option in Ubers, as it can surprise several of its common switch-ins. For example, Scizor can use Forretress, a common switch-in to Scizor in Ubers, as time to set up more Swords Dances. When using Swords Dance Scizor in Ubers, it is best to use and Adamant nature, Life Orb, and an EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed. While using max Speed on Scizor may seem like a waste of EVs in Ubers, it allows Scizor to outspeed several base 90 Ubers if they don't invest much of their EVs in Speed (Kyogre, Groudon, Dialga, and Giratina being important Pokémon that will occasionally be outsped). After one Swords Dance, Bullet Punch will have a 87% chance to OHKO Mewtwo after it takes Stealth Rock damage, Rayquaza and Latias will always be OHKOed after taking Stealth Rock damage, while Darkrai and Shaymin-S will be OHKOed regardless of whether or not Stealth Rock is on the field. A +2 X-Scissor will always OHKO a max HP Kyogre, while a Bold Kyogre with max HP and Defense will take a massive 71% - 84%. After one Swords Dance, X-Scissor will always 2HKO any Groudon, no matter what EV spread they are using. Bullet Punch will also have enough power to 2HKO Lugia after it takes Stealth Rock damage (dealing 46% - 55% to the standard 252 HP / 52 Def Bold Lugia), while X-scissor will always 2HKO Lugia, meaning that if Lugia lacks Reflect or Whirlwind, it has the possibility of losing to Scizor. Swords Dance Scizor even has the option of using Night Slash to 2HKO Giratina after one Swords Dance. Thanks to the Speed EVs, Scizor can outspeed Dialga that do not invest in Speed EVs, and then OHKO it with Superpower. The reason why this set is in other options is mainly because unlike Rayquaza and Lucario, Palkia and Kyogre that invest in Speed EVs can stop Scizor from sweeping due to their resistance to Bullet Punch (although both Kyogre and Palkia are 2HKOed by it after taking Stealth Rock damage) and ability to OHKO Scizor. When ever using Swords Dance Scizor, make sure that you not only have ways to handle Palkia and Kyogre, but to also have reasons to use it over Rayquaza and Lucario.</p>

<p>Baton Pass is a very viable move for Uber Scizor, because it allows Swords Dance Scizor to take advantage of Forretress switch-ins, and attempt to pass the Swords Dance to powerful physical attackers such as Groudon, Rayquaza, and Garchomp. Occa Berry is a very viable option in Ubers when paired with Kyogre's eternal rain, because this will let Scizor survive even Fire Blasts from Dialga and Palkia!</p>

<h4>Ubers</h4>
[Opinion]
<p>Despite being an OU Pokémon, it is almost as if Scizor was designed for Uber play. Scizor is a superb scout for offensive teams with U-turn, which it gets STAB on. Scizor's STAB U-turns do a massive amount of damage to the many Psychic-type Pokémon in Ubers as well. Bullet Punch is a powerful priority move thanks to it being a STAB move boosted by Technician, meaning that Scizor is easily able to destroy Deoxys-A, and is also able to pick off weakened Pokémon such as Darkrai and Rayquaza. Scizor is one of the few viable users of Pursuit in Ubers, allowing Scizor to trap and kill Pokémon such as Mewtwo and Latias. To sweeten the deal, Scizor even pairs up well with Tickle Wobbuffet, allowing the duo to smash Blissey and Lugia to pieces. Scizor's excellent Bug / Steel-typing allows it to take on the powerful Ice-type and Dragon-type attacks that are common in Ubers. Scizor even has access to Roost to take advantage of these great resistances. Overall, Scizor's amazing typing and wonderful movepool make it a force to be reckoned with in Ubers.</p>
 
Theorymon asked me to proofread this to the best of my ability, so...

Theorymon said:
Here are the extra sections I promised.

<h4>Ubers</h4>
[EVs]
<p>When using Choice Band Scizor in Ubers, it is advised to use an Adamant nature and an EV spread of either 200 HP / 56 Atk / 252 SpD or 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe. The bulkier EV spread allows Scizor to survive a boosted Thunder from Latias after taking Stealth Rock damage, while the more powerful EV spread sacrifices durability for the extra power to gain several KOs.</p>

<p>When using the Uber Trapper set, it is best to use an EV spread of 176 HP / 100 Atk / 232 SpD with an Adamant nature. The Attack EVs allow Scizor to always 2HKO Rayquaza with Bullet Punch after it takes Stealth Rock damage. The HP and Special Defense EVs allow Scizor to take the many Ice- and Dragon-type attacks of Ubers relatively well.</p>

<p>The Uber lead should use an EV spread of 248 HP / 10 Atk / 252 SpD. The heavy investment in HP and Special Defense allows Scizor to not only survive any Fire-type attack from Deoxys-S, but will also allow Scizor to become a useful switch-in to Ice- and Dragon-type attacks later, thanks to Roost.</p>

<p>Bulky Uber Scizor should always use a Careful nature, and it is recommended to use an EV spread of 244 HP / 22 Atk / 76 Def / 168 SpD. The HP and Defense investment allow Scizor to never be 2HKOed by a Choice Band Garchomp's Outrage after Stealth Rock, while the Special Defense investment allows Scizor to take powerful Special Attacks, such as a Choice Specs Palkia's Spacial Rend. If you need Scizor to almost always survive two Thunders from Latias after Stealth Rock damage, and two Choice Specs Draco Meteors from Modest Dialga, then use the EV spread of 248 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD with a Careful nature. This comes at a cost though; a Choice Band Garchomp will have a high chance of 2HKOing Scizor with Outrage after Stealth Rock damage.</p>

<h4>Ubers</h4>
[Other Options]
<p>Swords Dance Scizor is most certainly a viable option in Ubers, as it can surprise several of its common switch-ins. For example, Scizor can use Forretress, a common switch-in to Scizor in Ubers, as time to set up more Swords Dances. When using Swords Dance Scizor in Ubers, it is best to use and Adamant nature, Life Orb, and an EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed. While using max Speed on Scizor may seem like a waste of EVs in Ubers, it allows Scizor to outspeed several base 90 Ubers if they don't invest much of their EVs in Speed (Kyogre, Groudon, Dialga, and Giratina being important Pokémon that will occasionally be outsped). After one Swords Dance, Bullet Punch will have a 87% chance to OHKO Mewtwo after it takes Stealth Rock damage, Rayquaza and Latias will always be OHKOed after taking Stealth Rock damage, while Darkrai and Shaymin-S will be OHKOed regardless of whether or not Stealth Rock is on the field. A +2 X-Scissor will always (you didn't write anything here) a max HP Kyogre, while a Bold Kyogre with max HP and Defense will take a massive 71% - 84%. After one Swords Dance, X-Scissor will always 2HKO any Groudon, no matter what EV spread they are using. Bullet Punch will also have enough power to 2HKO Lugia after it takes Stealth Rock damage (dealing 46% - 55% to the standard 252 HP / 52 Def Bold Lugia), while X-scissor will always 2HKO Lugia, meaning that if Lugia lacks Reflect or Whirlwind, it has the possibility of losing to Scizor. Swords Dance Scizor even has the option of using Night Slash to 2HKO Giratina after one Swords Dance. Thanks to the Speed EVs, Scizor can outspeed Dialga that do not invest in Speed EVs, and then OHKO it with Superpower. The reason why this set is in other options is mainly because unlike Rayquaza and Lucario, Palkia and Kyogre that invest in Speed EVs can stop Scizor from sweeping due to their resistance to Bullet Punch (although both Kyogre and Palkia are 2HKOed by it after taking Stealth Rock damage) and ability to OHKO Scizor. When ever using Swords Dance Scizor, make sure that you not only have ways to handle Palkia and Kyogre, but to also have reasons to use it over Rayquaza and Lucario.</p>

<p>Baton Pass is a very viable move for Uber Scizor, because (removed "many") it allows Swords Dance Scizor to take advantage of Forretress switch-ins, and attempt to pass the Swords Dance to powerful physical attackers such as Groudon, Rayquaza, and Garchomp. Occa Berry is a very viable option in Ubers when paired with Kyogre's eternal rain, because this will let Scizor survive even Fire Blasts from Dialga and Palkia!</p>

<h4>Ubers</h4>
[Opinion]
<p>Despite being an OU Pokémon, it is almost as if Scizor was designed for Uber play. Scizor is a superb scout for offensive teams with U-turn, which it gets STAB on. Scizor's STAB U-turns do a massive amount of damage to the many Psychic-type Pokémon in Ubers as well. Bullet Punch is a powerful priority move thanks to it being a STAB move boosted by Technician, meaning that Scizor is easily able to destroy Deoxys-A, and is also able to pick off weakened Pokémon such as Darkrai and Rayquaza. Scizor is one of the few viable users of Pursuit in Ubers, allowing Scizor to trap and kill Pokémon such as Mewtwo and Latias. To sweeten the deal, Scizor even pairs up well with Tickle Wobbuffet, allowing the duo to smash Blissey and Lugia to pieces. Scizor's excellent Bug / Steel-typing allows it to take on the powerful Ice-type and Dragon-type attacks that are common in Ubers. Scizor even has access to Roost to take advantage of these great resistances. Overall, Scizor's amazing typing and wonderful movepool make it a force to be reckoned with in Ubers.</p>
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From a quick glance, I didn't find too many errors. You left out a few commas, and either added in or left out an extra word or two. Overall, not bad.
 
Thanks Flashstorm1!

Tab, I think you should remove the Uber mentions of Scizor from the EVs and Other Options section, they are covered (or in the case of the bulky trapper spread, changed) well enough in the sections I wrote.
 
I'm sick and tired of the standard Scizor. So I tried this...

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http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/scizor
[SET]
name: bulky
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Bullet Punch
move 3: Brick Break
move 4: Roost
item: Leftovers/Life Orb
nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 HP/ 80 Atk/ 4 Spe/ 176 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This set is meant to let Scizor last a little longer while still countering a few of its own counters. This set is the best your gonna get for bulky Mid/Late game sweeping. After just one Swords Dance Scizor has enough power to beat it's usual counters while still having enough defenses to survive powerful hits from it's own counters. Not only can this Scizor beat the common Choice Scarf Magnezone after a Swords Dance, it can still OHKO Salamence after Swords Dance and Stealth Rock with Bullet Punch. A common counter, Heatran, has to watch out for a quick 2HKO with Brick Break on the switch in and can 2HKO any form of Blissey before a Swords Dance. Superpower is not recommended on this set as after just 1 Superpower it lowers Scizors Overall Bulkiness.</p>

<p>Not only can Scizor possibly OHKO Salamence after Stealth Rock and Swords Dance it can also withstand a Magnezones Hidden Power Fire and OHKO right back with Brick Break. While there are a few alternative moves ehre the recommended set is the one you want to go with. It provides great coverage while still keeping the power it needs to gain some very important OHKO-2HKOs. Do not try adding X-Scissor, Pursuit, or Night Slash to this set as every move on here is important. Roost is needed for obvious HP recovery. Brick Break is needed for Steels while Bullet Punch is standard.</p>

<p>The Evs given may seem a bit overwhelming but they really aren't. The Evs generate enough Speed to tie with Standard Vaporeon and go slower then standard Choice Band Scizor. The HP and Special Defense evs give it enough durability to survive a Modest Magnezones Hidden Power Fire and the Attack lets it OHKO magnezone after a Swords Dance. The HP evs also let you switch into Stealth Rock 8 times and survive. Non boosted Brick Breaks also have a high chance of 2HKOing common Heatran set switch ins but they must be weary of heavily defensive sets. An alternative spread could be 252 Atk/176 SpD/4 Spe/ 80 HP which allows you to have the chance of 2HKOing Skarmory after Stealth Rock and Swords Dance. Superpower may be used over brick Break but is not recommended as the Defense drop hinders it's bulkiness greatly.This Scizor set benefits more long lastingly then the other Scizor sets as the given evs allow for longer living and thus a better sweep</p>


<p>On the offensive side Heatran is the best counter you can get. Magnezone can work to a point but must watch out if it gets a Swords Dance in. Salamence can work as well as the usual Flamethrower can OHKO but they must rememeber that there is stil a chance for Scizor to OHKO them with Bullet Punch if SR is in play. Gyarados is also one of the better counters you'll find as it resists both attacks, has Intimidate and can set up on it.
Defensivly Zapdos is the best coutner you can find. Resists both attacks and has a high chance of OHKOing with Heat Wave. Bulky ghost types such as Rotom-A and Dusknoir work wonders. Dusknoir can Will-O-Wisp and Fire Punch him to death while Rotom-A laughs and resists both attacks with ease. </p>

Hows this.

Sorry for double post but yes I copied this from my analyis page because I was told to move it here.
 
Thanks for the suggestion, but if you look at the OP, I've already added a 'Bulky Swords Dance' set, which is more or less identical to the set you posted.
 
Tab said:
Thanks for the suggestion, but if you look at the OP, I've already added a 'Bulky Swords Dance' set, which is more or less identical to the set you posted.
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While that may be true the ev spreads are much different and serve different purposes.
 
Either way, it doesn't deserve a new set. I'll run some calcs to compare the two spreads later tonight, and edit your spread in if necesarry.
 
I've had a look at it, and so far I'm leaning towards not including it. If it's OK with Stellar to delay this for 5 days or so, I'd like to speak to LR about it when he gets back, seeing as the bulky SD set is mostly based off his experience.
 
I don't get why you'd want to run that set unless you REALLY hate Magnezone with a Scarf. Also, it's not written that well.
 
Not only does it survive a Magnezones HP Fire it also allows you a longer sweep making many special attackers not do much damage
 
It would be really nice if we could get specific, relevant damage calculations. We aren't going to get anywhere if both sides continue this "no mine is better" foray.
 
"Scizor does have a chance against Tyranitar leads as well. Tyranitar will be unable to OHKO Scizor with Flamethrower without a significant EV investment in Special Attack, and will only have a 28% chance of OHKOing Scizor with Fire Punch when using 116 Attack EVs and a neutral nature. Scizor in return, will always outspeed and 2HKO Tyranitar leads with either Brick Break or X-Scissor. Be warned though, because if the Tyranitar is using a +Attack nature, it will have a much higher chance of OHKOing Scizor with Fire Punch. If you do not want to risk this, Groudon can be switched in to scare off Tyranitar."

Forgive me for my prodding, but shouldn't Scizor be able to hit Tyrannitar hard enough with Bullet Punch unless lead Tyrannitars carry Babiri Berry?
 
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