Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Everything you are entering into the seedfinder. Everything. All of it. I need every bit of information. I am not going to ask again, so if the next post does not have everything I need you're going to be on your own.
 
No the 9th hour or 9:00 pm is converted to 21:00 pm for the RNG reporter, 10:00 pm would be 22:00 pm. A simple way to convert to military time is to just add 12:00 to the current hour. *Note* Doesn't apply to early morning hours i.e. 1:00 am-12:00 pm.


Edit: Could anyone give me some flawless spreads to enter into the DPPt Time Finder for method 1/J? Or could I possibly just enter the Iv spread from the text documents w/ the nature and still be able to find it?
 
Ok, I see it now, so you're sure that it's the 22nd hour at your neck of the woods, and you're entirely sure that you've synched your ds's clock with an external clock and then entered the exact time you hit "A" at the continue screen correctly?
 
I seem to be having a problem...

I'm trying to find my range during the calibration process but I just can't seem to get a small range (or even once the same second). My delay is within a pretty good range, but aren't you supposed to hit the same second (or close to it) every single time?

Here is the following seconds and delays along with the pokemon I caught:


Seconds;Delay

16;604 (Graveler)
30;598 (Pidgey)
02;606 (Illumise)
53;602 (Roselia)
 
Shelcario said:
Ok, I see it now, so you're sure that it's the 22nd hour at your neck of the woods, and you're entirely sure that you've synched your ds's clock with an external clock and then entered the exact time you hit "A" at the continue screen correctly?
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omg i found the problem im so stupid
 
mingot about a week ago I was breeding an alakazam with the spread of 31/31/31/24/31/31. Then, I went to do the coin trick to check if I got it right, but it was wrong. I had a really strong feeling that I got it right so I went and caught a lvl 50 people entered the Ivs I had the right delay and I hit my target time. So then I went to hatch my egg and it was the right spread. Do you know why the coin trick failed?

qcom said:
I seem to be having a problem...

I'm trying to find my range during the calibration process but I just can't seem to get a small range (or even once the same second). My delay is within a pretty good range, but aren't you supposed to hit the same second (or close to it) every single time?

Here is the following seconds and delays along with the pokemon I caught:


Seconds;Delay

16;604 (Graveler)
30;598 (Pidgey)
02;606 (Illumise)
53;602 (Roselia)
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What I do is find the most common delay and then enter that in the time finder and just keep sring until I hit it.
Edit: for the seconds use an external clock to count the seconds because the repoter never shows the true seconds.
 
One more thing that's confusing me... Is the time that you put into the RNG Reporter the time that it was exactly when you soft resetted which comes right before you rapidly press 'a'? Also, why doesn't it have a seconds input field?
 
To get a consistent seconds reading you want to rapidly tap "A" as fast as you can up until the continue screen then as soon as you hit continue enter that time into the RNG reporter. Also qcom, you might want to get a little more results from the calibration phase of the RNG abuse process before coming to any conclusions based on your delay range and consistent seconds reading instead of basing it off of 5 results which isn't large enough to calculate the delay range and consistent seconds you're getting.
 
rocko510 said:
mingot about a week ago I was breeding an alakazam with the spread of 31/31/31/24/31/31. Then, I went to do the coin trick to check if I got it right, but it was wrong. I had a really strong feeling that I got it right so I went and caught a lvl 50 people entered the Ivs I had the right delay and I hit my target time. So then I went to hatch my egg and it was the right spread. Do you know why the coin trick failed?
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Maybe you were on the happiness checker application? Other than that the coin flips will match, unless you perform them on a route with weather.

qcom said:
One more thing that's confusing me... Is the time that you put into the RNG Reporter the time that it was exactly when you soft resetted which comes right before you rapidly press 'a'? Also, why doesn't it have a seconds input field?
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You don't enter the time that you reset.

You enter the time that you hit continue.

Seconds are not entered for two reasons:

1. It is hard enough for people to correctly input the date/minutes/hours. If I made people enter the seconds instead of the 10 posts a day of people who have incorrectly put in the informatation that is requested, it would be 100.

2. It's a tool to determine what your seconds will be when you reset at :00 seconds, which is important for capturing perfect Pokemon and IV breeding.

qcom said:
I seem to be having a problem...

I'm trying to find my range during the calibration process but I just can't seem to get a small range (or even once the same second). My delay is within a pretty good range, but aren't you supposed to hit the same second (or close to it) every single time?

Here is the following seconds and delays along with the pokemon I caught:


Seconds;Delay

16;604 (Graveler)
30;598 (Pidgey)
02;606 (Illumise)
53;602 (Roselia)
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You are either not resetting when your DS is at :00 seconds or you are not correctly updating the minute section in the seed finder.
 
All right! So, I put the time in when I hit continue. Not when I soft reset my DS. And you want me to start the DS when a new minute begins.

Got it! (I think! :D)


Thanks a lot for helping Shelcario and mingot (although I might have more questions), I can only imagine how hard it must be to help so many people with probably the same questions over and over...

Thanks again!!
 
Well if you're like me and have a lot of patience to get a good, solid idea I've recorded over 59 results so I don't know, I'd say 20-30 should be good.
 
I don't completely understand the part of hatching to make the frame 12 (by switching from "caught x" pages.

Im gonna explain what Im doing step by step.

Enter DPPt Time Finder
Tab DPPt Egg IVs
2009|8|x|x|x|14 sec
6/6 = min/max frame
590/610 = min/max delay
31/30/30/31/31/31

seed of
2009|8|11
19:04:14
Flip: T, H, H, H, H, H, T, T, H, H
31/30/B/B/B/31

On my DS:
change time to 19:03 when my clock hits a new minute.
open Pokemon Platinum.
wait till external clock hits new minute, SR.
Rapidly tap A (which leaves me at 19:04:14)
Opening Page has "Caugh Fearow"
press a, flipping to a page w/o anything
press b, going back to Fearow (1)
press a, back to page w/o anything
press b, going back to Fearow (2)
press a, back to page w/o anything
press b, going back to Fearow (3)
flip coin to see if match, but first hit is always heads.
 
Yes that's the one you want to choose always when you have two initial seeds.

Edit: I think you just have bad luck, I could never get the frame right for eggs either.
 
qcom said:
How many times should I do in order to find out a good range for both seconds and delay?
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5, maybe 10 tops.

You should be able to get seconds consistent and have a good range of common delays after that.

Eroom said:
flip coin to see if match, but first hit is always heads.
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You are missing your seed. Use the adjacent finder or go capture a Pokemon and use the initial seed finder to figure out what it actually is.
 
Wild Eep said:
Messing around with the starters (in my case, Piplup), I've found they are Method 1, and I've been able to get frame 1 spreads on them.

There are NPCs on the route (most notably the rival), which can both mess you up and advance the RNG to your goal frame.
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This got sort of buried back on page 333. Manipulating your starter can be particularly tricky since you don't have the Journal yet.
 
Wild Eep said:
This got sort of buried back on page 333. Manipulating your starter can be particularly tricky since you don't have the Journal yet.
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If it's harder than IV breeding will there be any advantage at all? It's cool, I like information for informations sake, just wondering if there are any practical advantages.
 
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