"WTF is that plant thing how can I battle a poke I don't know, I can't even look it up" That is a quote from R.O.B. from when I battled him with my new team, I actually lol'ed when he said it, sorry bout grammer, I had to cut it short to fit it in. Anyway My new team is based arround curse cradilly, a forgotten yet amazing pokemon in the sand, who got a new toy, in HGSS and I was shocked to see how few people knew what it was, even less know about suction cups, and most people use special attacks against it.
OK, Team building, I'll keep it short:
- Smeargle, he started the whole thing off, with the belly passer set
- Cradilly, orrginally to take wirlwinds so that smeargle didn't waste his set up and is now my favourite poke.
- Lead Hippowdon to bring the sand, so that cradilly could work effectively
- CB Scizor, Need I say more
- Scarf Latias, for the lati scizor revenge kill combo
- Lucario, for late game sweeping and reciveing the belly drum
- Slowbro, replaced smeargle as I needed a bulky water and a figthing type counter, most notably machamp, and slowbro also handles mence, gyrados and kingdra and others and he also has thunderwave an underatted move that cripple walls and sweepers, while surf keeps off the ground types.
- Gyrados for slowbro, as he has a better typing and more useful ability for my team, I apoligise if slowbro is still mentioned in places.
- Empoelon because she has useful resistances and here weaknesses are well covered, while providing a great late game sweeper in the sand
Lets start with:
Lead Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
Ability: Sandstream
Ev's: 252 Hp, 168 Def, 88 sp.def
Moves:
- Stealth rock
- Roar / toxic
- Earthquake
- Slack off
Hippowdon is a great lead because he is very capable of comming in latter on as he has a instant recovery, anothing thing I like about him is base 112 attack, combined with the best stab move, with no drawbacks, 100 base power and suppereffective against five types. Then stealth rocks hits most EQ resistors hard and therfore roar can hurt them by making them take rock damadge again. Toxic is mentioned as with the threat of roar and EQ, most switch ins will likely not sub up, and will likely not be imune to poisen, this combined with sandstorm does make hippowdon one of the best toxic stallers in the game. Relaxed is more useful because it powers down gyro ball, it makes me slower than nearly all lead abomasnow and it can be important to get sand up first to ruin its sub seeding stratagy and get an early advanatage on hail teams whcih are quite threatening.
To show you how powerful hippo is can I 2hko kingdra (252 atk, 252 spd) while kingdra can only 3hko me with waterfall, jolteon can only 3hko me with hp grass, while I ohko with EQ.
Next my second physical wall, the rest talker.
Gyrados @ Leftovers
Impish
Intimidate
252 Hp, 252 def, 4 spd
- Waterfall
- Stone edge
- Rest
- Sleeptalk
Intimidate stops many physical attackers form sweeping, even if gyrados can't handle them it allows someone else to, it allows gives curse cradilly and lucario a chance to set up on some oponents. Waterfall and stone edge have great type coverage and hits salamence and heatran for super effecive damadge. I don't need dragon dance as this set is not meant for sweeping. Rest allows gyrados to abosrb status and sleep talk makes up for stone edges bad pp, while gyrados's bulkyness makes up for the low accuracy. Aqua tail is an option as gyrados can afford to miss and the extra power could be useful while flinch is not as needed without access dragon dance. I know many teams that relly on stealth rocks and status to beat gyrados but rest and sleep talk solves this problem and this is a great adition to my team thanks dark scizor for the sugestion. Iv's been testing outrage as it is great when sleep talking as ur not locked in, does more damadge, has more accuracy and beter coverage, aswell as hitting kingdra suppereffectvely. Does bounce work while sleep talking?
he needs no introduction:
Scizor @ Choice band
Adamant
252 atk, 248 hp, 8 speed
- Bullet punch
- U-turn
- Supperpower
- Pursuit
A standard scizor and not much can change to it. I always feel the choice of pursuit should be quick attack as standard and pursuit if you need it. I feel this team could do with pursuit for starmie, gengar etc and bullet punch nearly does as much as quick attack against infernape and foes. I often embrace the moto if in doubt u-turn out, but I am quite good with superpower predictions and I have hit many a scizor counter for the OHKO before now, but im not so well experence with pursuit predicting and I useually get the decision wrong, but pursuit is useful for the getting 100% checkmate on some foes. Scizor also scouts out lucario counters such as gliscor and can u-turn into latias for the KO and is very useful for planning a Lucario sweep.
The revenger
Latias @ choice scarf
Modest (for sweeping)
Levitate (I chose for Eq, oh wait I don't get a choice)
252 sp.atk, 252 speed, 4 hp
- Dracco meteor
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Trick
Dracco meteor is such a powerful move and is why latias is a great scarfed poke, T-bolt is for water tybes who threaten hippowdon, Surf is for heatran amoungst others. Modest and dracco metero gives latias allot of stabbed power and is only resisted by one type why she is such a good scarfer because she is so quick, very powerful. Latias holds the team together revenge kiling starmies, heatrans etc who think they are faster than me. While it is also good pursuit bait, allowing lucario to set up. Modest beacuse I don't need to outspeed jolly mence as scizor also handles mence and gyrados can also handle him. Trick helps with the blissey lure and counter stratagy, while stopping threats like suicune from destroying me.
The plant poke
HGSS Splat (nickname)
Careful
Suction cups
252 hp, 160 def, 96 sp.def
- Curse
- Rock slide
- Recover
- EQ
Cradilly is probably the best curser in the game, being the only one who can set up in the face of zapdos and skarmory with an imunity to roar/wirlwind, with a great duel typing from its attacks and an instant recovery move, although status hurts, I can easily switch out cradilly and set up again latter. Cradilly only has 3 weaknesses, most people know the fighting weakness, but with no curses I can take an infernape CC and OHKO with EQ, and Gyrados can handle fighting types well. The second is ice and is often remebred but with uber special defence, the common icebeamers like cresselia, blissey have low special attack and lefties almost negates the damdge and the third steel weakness is nearly allways forgotten, I face a metagross who use EQ, because he thought Meteor mash was resisted. Cradily also has better defences than curselax. Although cradilly cannot function without sand, I personally think with curse she will make it BL, she is the top KO scorer on my team so far. Cradily is very effective at tearing through the midgame and opeoning it up for a lucario sweep
With the ev's and SS boost cradily reaches 376 hp, 270 defence (better defences than bold 252 vaporeon and bold 252 milotic), with 451 special defence. Also cradilly with 252 hp, 252 spdef actually takes special hits better than a bold blissey with 252 hp, 252 defence, while it may not seem like much she is the only pokemon I know capable of doing that with access to instant recovery.
Although she is lacking natural cure/imunity cradily definately rivals snorlax and suction cups is arguably a better ability, and with the addition of curse in my opinion she beats snorlax as a special wall on an SS team. In comparison to blissey she can have more special defence than a bold blissey and is the only poke I know capable of that, she has physical moves for calminders like mismagius, raikou etc has beter defence, can curse and isn't gay. So i prefer cradilly to blissey, although no one can really compare to blissey.
The SS sweeper
Empoelon @ Petya berry
Modest
Torrent
252 SpA, 232 speed, 12 hp, 12 def
- Substitute
- Agility
- Surf
- Grass knot
Was once considered the bets late game sweeper, well she certainly is good, and fits in to my team very well, If you don't know how the set works, you agility first, then subsitute down to your petaya berry whilst activating torrent, you then procide to sweep with a very powerful surf, backed up by a filler move and 4times ressitance to bullet punch and ice shard and a resistance to extream speed and aqua jet and fake out.
She may not be able to get through blissey, but this is like lucario cant get through gliscor and she destoys so many teams as she is a fairly underused threat and is my last resort 1-6 to 1-0 poke. Grass knot because I can handle dragons and celebi with scizor, gyrados and latias, but bulky waters can threaten me like cune and are more diffcult to ko, it is also more of a surprise as people dont send in there clebi to take on empoleon.
Im loving this sweeper and I think she completes this team.
The team has issues
- Gyrados solves the old issues, testing on shoddy and in real battle for new issues
- Empoleon solves the all physical problem
Although ice appears to be an issue, I have not lost to a hail team as gyrados, empleon and scizor (especially) pawn hail teams, and I therefore assume a single ice person on its own is not a problem.
I shall add other issues to the list when I find them and can someone give me a link to pictures on the back of pokes, and a link to a red gyrados as myne is red. Thank you for reading and please rate
OK, Team building, I'll keep it short:
- Smeargle, he started the whole thing off, with the belly passer set
- Cradilly, orrginally to take wirlwinds so that smeargle didn't waste his set up and is now my favourite poke.
- Lead Hippowdon to bring the sand, so that cradilly could work effectively
- CB Scizor, Need I say more
- Scarf Latias, for the lati scizor revenge kill combo
- Lucario, for late game sweeping and reciveing the belly drum
- Slowbro, replaced smeargle as I needed a bulky water and a figthing type counter, most notably machamp, and slowbro also handles mence, gyrados and kingdra and others and he also has thunderwave an underatted move that cripple walls and sweepers, while surf keeps off the ground types.
- Gyrados for slowbro, as he has a better typing and more useful ability for my team, I apoligise if slowbro is still mentioned in places.
- Empoelon because she has useful resistances and here weaknesses are well covered, while providing a great late game sweeper in the sand
Lets start with:
Lead Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Nature: Relaxed
Ability: Sandstream
Ev's: 252 Hp, 168 Def, 88 sp.def
Moves:
- Stealth rock
- Roar / toxic
- Earthquake
- Slack off
Hippowdon is a great lead because he is very capable of comming in latter on as he has a instant recovery, anothing thing I like about him is base 112 attack, combined with the best stab move, with no drawbacks, 100 base power and suppereffective against five types. Then stealth rocks hits most EQ resistors hard and therfore roar can hurt them by making them take rock damadge again. Toxic is mentioned as with the threat of roar and EQ, most switch ins will likely not sub up, and will likely not be imune to poisen, this combined with sandstorm does make hippowdon one of the best toxic stallers in the game. Relaxed is more useful because it powers down gyro ball, it makes me slower than nearly all lead abomasnow and it can be important to get sand up first to ruin its sub seeding stratagy and get an early advanatage on hail teams whcih are quite threatening.
To show you how powerful hippo is can I 2hko kingdra (252 atk, 252 spd) while kingdra can only 3hko me with waterfall, jolteon can only 3hko me with hp grass, while I ohko with EQ.
Next my second physical wall, the rest talker.
Gyrados @ Leftovers
Impish
Intimidate
252 Hp, 252 def, 4 spd
- Waterfall
- Stone edge
- Rest
- Sleeptalk
Intimidate stops many physical attackers form sweeping, even if gyrados can't handle them it allows someone else to, it allows gives curse cradilly and lucario a chance to set up on some oponents. Waterfall and stone edge have great type coverage and hits salamence and heatran for super effecive damadge. I don't need dragon dance as this set is not meant for sweeping. Rest allows gyrados to abosrb status and sleep talk makes up for stone edges bad pp, while gyrados's bulkyness makes up for the low accuracy. Aqua tail is an option as gyrados can afford to miss and the extra power could be useful while flinch is not as needed without access dragon dance. I know many teams that relly on stealth rocks and status to beat gyrados but rest and sleep talk solves this problem and this is a great adition to my team thanks dark scizor for the sugestion. Iv's been testing outrage as it is great when sleep talking as ur not locked in, does more damadge, has more accuracy and beter coverage, aswell as hitting kingdra suppereffectvely. Does bounce work while sleep talking?
he needs no introduction:
Scizor @ Choice band
Adamant
252 atk, 248 hp, 8 speed
- Bullet punch
- U-turn
- Supperpower
- Pursuit
A standard scizor and not much can change to it. I always feel the choice of pursuit should be quick attack as standard and pursuit if you need it. I feel this team could do with pursuit for starmie, gengar etc and bullet punch nearly does as much as quick attack against infernape and foes. I often embrace the moto if in doubt u-turn out, but I am quite good with superpower predictions and I have hit many a scizor counter for the OHKO before now, but im not so well experence with pursuit predicting and I useually get the decision wrong, but pursuit is useful for the getting 100% checkmate on some foes. Scizor also scouts out lucario counters such as gliscor and can u-turn into latias for the KO and is very useful for planning a Lucario sweep.
The revenger
Latias @ choice scarf
Modest (for sweeping)
Levitate (I chose for Eq, oh wait I don't get a choice)
252 sp.atk, 252 speed, 4 hp
- Dracco meteor
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Trick
Dracco meteor is such a powerful move and is why latias is a great scarfed poke, T-bolt is for water tybes who threaten hippowdon, Surf is for heatran amoungst others. Modest and dracco metero gives latias allot of stabbed power and is only resisted by one type why she is such a good scarfer because she is so quick, very powerful. Latias holds the team together revenge kiling starmies, heatrans etc who think they are faster than me. While it is also good pursuit bait, allowing lucario to set up. Modest beacuse I don't need to outspeed jolly mence as scizor also handles mence and gyrados can also handle him. Trick helps with the blissey lure and counter stratagy, while stopping threats like suicune from destroying me.
The plant poke
HGSS Splat (nickname)
Careful
Suction cups
252 hp, 160 def, 96 sp.def
- Curse
- Rock slide
- Recover
- EQ
Cradilly is probably the best curser in the game, being the only one who can set up in the face of zapdos and skarmory with an imunity to roar/wirlwind, with a great duel typing from its attacks and an instant recovery move, although status hurts, I can easily switch out cradilly and set up again latter. Cradilly only has 3 weaknesses, most people know the fighting weakness, but with no curses I can take an infernape CC and OHKO with EQ, and Gyrados can handle fighting types well. The second is ice and is often remebred but with uber special defence, the common icebeamers like cresselia, blissey have low special attack and lefties almost negates the damdge and the third steel weakness is nearly allways forgotten, I face a metagross who use EQ, because he thought Meteor mash was resisted. Cradily also has better defences than curselax. Although cradilly cannot function without sand, I personally think with curse she will make it BL, she is the top KO scorer on my team so far. Cradily is very effective at tearing through the midgame and opeoning it up for a lucario sweep
With the ev's and SS boost cradily reaches 376 hp, 270 defence (better defences than bold 252 vaporeon and bold 252 milotic), with 451 special defence. Also cradilly with 252 hp, 252 spdef actually takes special hits better than a bold blissey with 252 hp, 252 defence, while it may not seem like much she is the only pokemon I know capable of doing that with access to instant recovery.
Although she is lacking natural cure/imunity cradily definately rivals snorlax and suction cups is arguably a better ability, and with the addition of curse in my opinion she beats snorlax as a special wall on an SS team. In comparison to blissey she can have more special defence than a bold blissey and is the only poke I know capable of that, she has physical moves for calminders like mismagius, raikou etc has beter defence, can curse and isn't gay. So i prefer cradilly to blissey, although no one can really compare to blissey.
The SS sweeper
Empoelon @ Petya berry
Modest
Torrent
252 SpA, 232 speed, 12 hp, 12 def
- Substitute
- Agility
- Surf
- Grass knot
Was once considered the bets late game sweeper, well she certainly is good, and fits in to my team very well, If you don't know how the set works, you agility first, then subsitute down to your petaya berry whilst activating torrent, you then procide to sweep with a very powerful surf, backed up by a filler move and 4times ressitance to bullet punch and ice shard and a resistance to extream speed and aqua jet and fake out.
She may not be able to get through blissey, but this is like lucario cant get through gliscor and she destoys so many teams as she is a fairly underused threat and is my last resort 1-6 to 1-0 poke. Grass knot because I can handle dragons and celebi with scizor, gyrados and latias, but bulky waters can threaten me like cune and are more diffcult to ko, it is also more of a surprise as people dont send in there clebi to take on empoleon.
Im loving this sweeper and I think she completes this team.
The team has issues
- Gyrados solves the old issues, testing on shoddy and in real battle for new issues
- Empoleon solves the all physical problem
Although ice appears to be an issue, I have not lost to a hail team as gyrados, empleon and scizor (especially) pawn hail teams, and I therefore assume a single ice person on its own is not a problem.
I shall add other issues to the list when I find them and can someone give me a link to pictures on the back of pokes, and a link to a red gyrados as myne is red. Thank you for reading and please rate
