Team Olympus (OU RMT)

EBONKA

Team Olympus (OU RMT) 2.0

I just recently discovered how to check my Shoddy ladder rank (as of posting I'm at 1140) and I'm hoping to improve. Here I go...
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Celebi@ Focus Sash (Demeter)
76 HP/ 180 Spe/ 252 SpAtk
Timid
-U-Turn
-Stealth Rock
-Leaf Storm
-Earth Power

My lead. Celebi opens with Stealth Rock and either U-Turns away or fights it out. generally uses Leaf Storm for sheer power, but if there's a type advantage, Earth Power.

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Salamence @ Life Orb (Chaos)
84 Atk/ 210 Spe/ 216 Atk
Mild
-Outrage
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Earthquake

My Mixed Sweeper. With the power of the 2 strongest Dragon moves, Earthquake, and Fire Blast, there are few Pokemon who aren't decimated in the wake of Chaos.

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Infernape @ Life Orb (Apollo)
252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 4 HP
Jolly
-Swords Dance
-Fire Punch
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge

Physical Sweeper/ Ultimate Wall destroyer. Whenever I catch a Scizor unaware, rather than just using Fire Punch, I use Swords Dance. Why? Because 8 out of 10 times (I tested) the opponent switches to someone else who THEN gets hit by a Swords Dance Fire Punch. I try to save him until the end of the match but if forced, I bring him out.

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Vaporeon@ Leftovers (Athena)
188 Hp/ 252 Df/ 70 Spe
Bold
-Wish
-Hidden Power Electric
-Surf
-Protect

My Healer. Wish allows me to heal my other Pokemon that have no other form of healing. Surf for STAB. Protect allows me to scout the enemy's move set or slowly heal myself. Hidden Power E destroys Gyrados and other birds.

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Scizor @ Choice Band (Ares)
248 HP/ 252 Atk/ 8 Spe
Admant
-Bullet Punch
-Superpower
-U-Turn
-Pursuit

MY standard CB Scizor. Pursuit takes down Ghosts and Psychics (Rotom, Gengar, Cresellia, Starmie). U-Turn allows me to scout the enemy. Bullet Punch gives me priority over everyone and combined with CB and Technician, does a lot of damage. Superpower for some extra Blissey Defense and whenever I need one last big move.

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Swampert@ Leftovers (Poseidon)
252 HP/ 4 Atk/ 252 Df
Relaxed
-Earthquake
-Roar
-Ice Beam
-Toxic

My Tank. Swamp helps take on Dragons with Ice Beam and everyone else with earthquake. Toxic then Roar so I can haze (piss off) the other team. Roar whenever someone has too much boost (Dragon Dance, Agility, Sub) and I want them out.


Well there's my team. I hope you liked it. Please comment and leave suggestions.​
 
I would replace Hippowdon. It works well on a stall team as it's a bulky SRing lead that sets up residual damage. But that's not really what you're doing here, your team is more offensive than that.

If you want to keep a physical tank, I would go with Skarmory over Hippowdon.

Secondly, Stealth Rock is generally a much better entry hazard than Toxic Spikes, especially in OU. Toxic Spikes (and specifically, Roserade as a lead) is generally used to help a set-up sweeper that has problems with Bulky Waters or other spongers. I would replace that lead with a Metagross or Jirachi lead. These give you an extra Steel type to help you out with Dragons that currently pose a little bit of a threat.


On Gengar, I would either replace Energy Ball with HP Ice, or Thunderbolt with HP Fire. They pair up better for coverage; the particular choice of grass-fire or electric-ice really depends on what you're generally trying to take out with Gengar.
 
i would replace energy ball for hp fire, destiny bond, or explosion as energy ball doesn't get good type coverage and since it's mainly used for swampert it's pretty redundant since ape and roserade both OHKO it.
 
I would go explosion on Gengar over energy ball. T-bolt already covers the majority of what its there for, and swampert isn't common enough to warrant the move slot. Explosion can still deal a good amount of damage even coming off of a special poke like Gengar.

And like they say, Hippowdon really serves no purpose on this team other than hinder your other pokemon by setting up a sandstorm. I would put a faster physical ground like Gliscor in there.
 
I like the typing and alot of the pokes you chose. Just the sets you are using are unreliable in my opinion.

Im going to suggest alot of set changes,two poke changes , etc take it into mind.

Instead of nasty plot sweeper.
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@ Life orb
Jolly / Blaze
4 hp/ 252 atk/ 252 spe
Moves
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-Fire Punch
-Stone Edge

Your team lacks a physical sweeper. SD ape, if set up correctly, sweeps through the metagame like its nothing. This set will greatly improve your team.

Next is your lead. Im going to tell you right here. Toxic Spikes aren't worth it.
In fact i have decided to post the Top 30 October usages on the Standard Ladder and will bold the pokes not affected by toxic spikes. And will Underline those who are affected by stealth rocks to a considerable amount on damage (considering all on that list are hurt by stealth rocks.)
Scizor
Gyarados
Latias
Rotom(all forms)
Heatran
Salamence
Metagross
Tyranitar
Infernape
Lucario
Jirachi
Gengar
Swampert
Blissey
Starmie
Azelf
Gliscor
Machamp
Vaporeon
Magnezone
Skarmory
Celebi
Flygon
Zapdos
Dragonite
Forretress
Breloom
Kingdra
Empoleon
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If this doesn't convince you, you clearly are stubborn or not logical.

So instead i recommend for your lead.
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@ focus sash/ occa berry
Modest / Natural cure
76 HP / 252 SpA / 180 Spe
Moves
-stealth rock
-Grass knot
-earth power/ hp fire / hp ice
-u-turn / hp fire / hp ice

Celebi provides you with many things roserade does not.

First off the best entry hazard in the game, stealth rocks.
She also brings into play a bulky sweeper / scouter with good type coverage.
Celebi does a similar job when compared to roserade, but she has a better entry hazard and also last longer.

Lastly Gengar.
I don't understand the hype about gengar, i think hes completly underwhelming in todays metagame. With all the scizors and scarf rotoms running around he cant do much but revenge kill then get pursuited or revenged killed himself. If you take my advice for SD ape you will need a reliable mixed sweeper on your team. What always comes to me is New Mixmence.
Mixmence will do a much better job compared to gengar
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@ life orb
Mild / Intimidate
84 atk/ 216 spA/ 208 spe
Moves
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Outrage
-Earthquake

This set provides you with a few things. first off a physical and special stab dragon move, next off a source of intimidate for pokes like gyarados or other physical sweepers which could bother your team. Not to mention he is a beast in general.

Lastly Hippowdon. all he does is hinder your team by putting sandstorm into effect and generally doing nothing.
EDIT: After reading the suggestions from Bloo i agree with his suggestion for hippowdons replacement.
Bloo said:
Swampert @ Leftovers | Torrent
Relaxed | 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Earthquake | Surf | Ice Beam | Roar
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Except i like surf over stealth rocks since celebi will already be running Stealth rocks. plus gives you a water type move your team is lacking.

I updated the synergy chart when using pert in the place of what i had as gliscor.
All these changes will GREATLY enhance your team to the point where your team will be able to get you to a CRE of 1500 or higher.
With these changes team synergy isnt ruined either. In fact i would say its improved.

Old Team Synergy:
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After My Improvements:
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glad to help
 
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Using sandstorm on this team seems to be hindering your team more than it's helping your team. You're using three Pokemon who dislike sandstorm greatly - Infernape, Gengar, and Cresselia. With sandstorm in play, Cresselia will only be able to replenish one fourth of its health with Moonlight, which is a rather large liability. Furthermore, with Gengar and Infernape both being vulnerable to sandstorm and the 10% recoil received from Life Orb combined with other factors such as Stealth Rock, their life span will be cut down significantly. Hippowdon's position on this team seems questionable and could be used filled better by the likes of Swampert, which is the Pokemon I recommend you use in place of said Hippowdon.

There are numerous reasons as to why I recommend using Swampert in place of Hippowdon. First and foremost, Swampert doesn't hinder the majority of your team thanks to not summoning sandstorm once it is brought onto the field. Without sandstorm in play, Infernape, Gengar, and so on will be able to function much more efficiently. Secondly, Swampert gives you a reliable Fire-type resist, which is something you lack (Infernape does have a resistance to Fire-type moves, however, it is rather frail and won't be able to take many Fire-type attacks due to this) Additionally, Swampert gives your team a much needed Stealth Rock user. Hippowdon could've filled this position, however, Swampert has some added benefits over Hippowdon as mentioned previously, making it an ideal choice for this team. With Swampert, you still retain a rock resist and the ability to strike Salamence super effectively with Ice Beam instead of relying on Hippowdon's Stone Edge, which has shaky accuracy. Swampert makes an excellent pHazer with Roar, allowing you to build up consistent residual damage with your entry hazards of Toxic Spikes and now, Stealth Rock. All in all, I'd highly consider using Swampert over Hippowdon.

Swampert @ Leftovers | Torrent
Relaxed | 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Earthquake | Stealth Rock | Ice Beam | Roar

Now, Energy Ball isn't needed on Gengar. Energy Ball's main use is to strike Swampert for super effective damage; however, you have Roserade's Toxic Spikes' and Leaf Storm to dispose of Swampert quickly. Thunderbolt strikes Water-types super effectively as well. Due to this, Energy Ball isn't needed on Gengar. If you're looking for a replacement, there are two options which you could consider. One of them is Protect and the other is Substitute. Protect allows Gengar to scout moves, such as Scizor's BP or Pursuit. You Protect too see what Scizor does. If it BP's, switch out. If it Pursuits, stay in and attack. Substitute on the other hand allows you to block status, gives you a protective barrier to attack under, and so on. If you opt for Sub, use Leftovers in place of LO so you don't lose 25% while using Sub and 10% recoil when you attack.

On Roserade, people commonly use the 4 | 252 | 252 EV spread without a second thought -- what they don't realize though is that a spread of 80 HP | 176 SpA | 252 Spe, which allows Roserade to survive 2 Bullet Punch's from Metagross, which will likely happen since they will predict a Sleep Powder. You don't miss out on much power either, so I think it is a worthy change to make.

Now, I feel as if Cresselia's spot can be used better. Typically, Cresselia's main use is to handle Dragon-types such as Salamence; however, you're more than covered against Dragon-types with Scizor keeping most in check with Bullet Punch and Swampert being able to kill with Ice Beam (and take a couple of attacks here and there due to its good Defense and HP) Your team could use a bit more insurance against Taunt Gyarados. If Gyarados fires of a DD (which it can do on Scizor, Ape, Taunt Cresselia so it can't Thunder Wave it then set up a DD), it has the potential to deal massive damage to this team. Furthermore, your team looks as if it'd appreciate some Wish support, as it will mean your Pokemon without recovery (Infernape, Gengar, etc) will be able to stick around longer. You also need a reliable switch-in to the likes of LO Heatran and so on. I recommend trying a Vaporeon over Cresselia for the aforementioned reasons.

Vaporeon @ Leftovers | Water Absorb
Bold | 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Spe
Surf | HP Electric | Wish | Protect

Vaporeon will be able to handle Gyarados exceedingly well thanks to HP Electric and it's mammoth HP and moderate Defense stat. In addition, it will be able to provide Wish support for the rest of your team, which helps Infernape and Gengar to survive for a longer duration of time. With Protect, you can stall for Toxic Spike damage and scout your opponents' moves while making sure Wish heals you.

Finally, my last recommendation to you is to use a more special defensively oriented Scizor. With more Special Defense, Scizor will be able to switch-in on the likes of Latias easier, allowing you to dispose of it with Pursuit easier as well. With you being able to get rid of it with Pursuit and switch-in on said Latias better with added Special Defense, Infernape will be relieved since with Latias gone, it will be able to sweep better without having to worry about Latias coming in and ruining its fun -- 160 HP | 176 Atk | 168 SpD | 4 Spe. With that EV spread, you gain the ability to switch-in on special attacks much more easily due to the inclusion of Special Defense EVs in conjunction with HP EVs. You still retain the power to hit hard thanks to the Attack EVs, so this EV spread is an option.
 
Wow. This is why smogon's the best place to post teams. Come back a day later and you have an in-depth analysis.

So I should replace Hippo with Swampert
Roserade with Celebi,
Creselia with Vaporeon

and Evs.

Anything else?
 
EBONKA said:
Wow. This is why smogon's the best place to post teams. Come back a day later and you have an in-depth analysis.

So I should replace Hippo with Swampert
Roserade with Celebi,
Creselia with Vaporeon

and Evs.

Anything else?
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Take a look at my post again.

S1edge Hammer said:
Instead of nasty plot sweeper.
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@ Life orb
Jolly / Blaze
4 hp/ 252 atk/ 252 spe
Moves
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-Fire Punch
-Stone Edge

Your team lacks a physical sweeper. SD ape, if set up correctly, sweeps through the metagame like its nothing. This set will greatly improve your team.



Lastly Gengar.
I don't understand the hype about gengar, i think hes completly underwhelming in todays metagame. With all the scizors and scarf rotoms running around he cant do much but revenge kill then get pursuited or revenged killed himself. If you take my advice for SD ape you will need a reliable mixed sweeper on your team. What always comes to me is New Mixmence.
Mixmence will do a much better job compared to gengar
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@ life orb
Mild / Intimidate
84 atk/ 216 spA/ 208 spe
Moves
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Outrage
-Earthquake

This set provides you with a few things. first off a physical and special stab dragon move, next off a source of intimidate for pokes like gyarados or other physical sweepers which could bother your team. Not to mention he is a beast in general.
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Is there a reason as to why you did not mention these two? I would like to know and see if I can convince you into using them.
 
One change to Roserade that I would recommend, change HP Fire to HP Ice. I used to run Fire on my Rade, but I found Ice being more and more useful but I didn't have it. Ice allows you to get a surprise kill on pokemon like salamence. Since switching, I've solved many problems with it.

Enjoy~
 
Celebi with Rocks. It's a better entry hazard than Toxic Spikes, which aren't really viable in OU, and it's bulkier, which will help on your team, as S1edge Hammer said.
 
EBONKA said:
K. And I was wondering why do people use Ice Beam over Ice Punch on Swampert?
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Most of the time people have special attack evs over attack or its just personal preference.

I suggest you show the changes you have made in the original post so that other people can make better rates.
 
Because ice beam outdamages ice punch against Gliscor, Hippowdon, Salamence (it's not affected by intimidate). On the other hand ice punch can 2hko Latias, so it's a matter of preference.
 
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