First OU Team- SuiZor, CeleTran, and... JoltZelf?

[Regenschein]

Well, this is my first OU team I'm posting here. After some previous shitty teams, I decided to post this one on RMT. I made this team with a friend this weekend, and I really wanted some feedback on it, so without further ado, here's the team!

Process

I knew I wanted the focus of this team to be a Suicune. I was surfing around the strategy PokeDex and landed on its page, and I immediately knew I wanted it to be in my team.

Next, I wanted something to take care of Suicune's counters, which I read were mostly Water Absorbers and Bulky Waters. I narrowed it down to Electivire and Jolteon for their abilities, and eventually decided on Jolteon, because of its speed and special attack.

I noticed that Blissey was a common wall, and its high special defense posed a problem for both my pokemon so far. I chose Scizor as a Blissey counter and also as a physical sweeper to compliment my two special sweepers so far.

Next I decided I needed some defense. Celebi fit the bill, and I had heard that it made a good defensive core with Heatran; more on him later.

A lead was next. I couldn't think of what might work best for this team, so I decided on Stealth Rock support with an Azelf lead. Aerodactyl might have worked better as a suicide lead, but I still chose Azelf.

And finally, the Heatran to complement my Celebi. I wanted a more defensive set, but since I'm new at this, I wasn't really comfortable with making my own sets yet. I landed on TormenTran to take care of threats more easily.

Now a look at the team in more detail:

Azelf @ Focus Sash
Naïve Nature
Levitate
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe


IVs: 28 Special Defense

• Stealth Rock
• Psychic
• Explosion
• Taunt

I chose Stealth Rock support for this lead, to make sweeping easier. Explosion is to take out bulky Gyarados, and Psychic is for Gengar. Taunt is to get rocks off on slower leads.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
Natural Cure


EVs: 252 HP / 220 Def / 36 Spe

• Thunder Wave
• Grass Knot
• Recover
• Hidden Power Fire

My defender. Thunder Wave cripples sweepers, Grass Knot has STAB, and HP Fire hits steel types.


Suicune @ Life Orb
Modest Nature
Pressure


EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

• Calm Mind
• Surf
• Ice Beam
• Hidden Power Electric

Suicune was the center of the team since the beginning. After a Calm Mind, its coverage with Surf, Ice Beam, and HP Electric hits almost everything pretty hard. Blissey could wall it, but that's why I have Scizor.

Jolteon @ Choice Specs
Timid Nature
Volt Absorb


EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

• Thunderbolt
• Hidden Power Ice
• Shadow Ball
• BatonPass

Jolteon is for coverage and to take out Bulky Waters and Water Absorbers that could take advantage of Suicune if it runs out of HP Electric, or if anything else comes up. I used HP Ice to take care of Swampert and Mamoswine. Baton Pass works well for scouting.

Scizor @ Life Orb
Adamant Nature
Technician


EVs: 32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spe

• Swords Dance
• Bullet Punch
• Brick Break
• Roost

My Blissey counter. Not much to say, Bullet Punch for its boosts from STAB, Swords Dance, and Technician. Brick Break to take down Blissey and Screens.

Heatran @ Leftovers
Calm Nature
Flash Fire


EVs: 244 HP / 32 SpA / 12 SpD / 220 Spe

• Substitute
• Torment
• Protect
• Lava Plume

I basically chose Heatran to work well with Celebi, so TormenTran may not have been the best choice. Its could be used to take down things other team members can't handle.

So that's my team, please rate and comment because I really need some tips with this. I'm new here, but I hope I stick around for a long time.
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[connoisseur]

On Jolteon change HP ice to HP grass. HP grass takes care of swampert and mamoswine as well with the added benefit of hitting swampert for 4x. HP Ice hits salamence for 4x, but usually it'll outspeed (Dragon Dance) and EQ you for the KO making having HP Ice worthless.

 

[mite b cool]

So the focus of this team is CM offensive Suicune. Great! but 5/6 of your team is walled by Blissey (include Suicune). You are going to have a hard time switching in with Scizor, because of the threat of flamethrower. Lets try and fix this.

The first little nickpick would be to get rid of torment tran, It works well with Toxic Spikes, but thats about it. I recommend running a Life Orb set.

4HP/ 252 SPA/ 252 Spe
Naive nature
~ Fire Blast
~ HP Grass
~ Earth Power
~ Explosion

( just watch out out protect on Blissey!)

Alright this gives you a lure per say. Try to keep Suicune hidden till late game, so when Blissey comes in to wall your Heatran you can explode and attempt to sweep with Suicune

Ok, now lets even things out by adding a physcial attacker. A good choice is Breloom over Celebi, it gives you a nice Tyranitar counter and can utilise spore. Also checks Vappy and other Bulky waters who threaten a Suicune sweep.

Breloom @ Toxic Orb
48 HP/ 252 ATT/ 208 SPE
Adamant nature
~ Spore
~ Seed Bomb
~ Stone Edge
~ Mach Punch/ Focus Punch

The only reason I recommend Stone Edge is because you cant let something like Salamence set up on your team.

might add some more later, this is just what i saw to begin with.

 

[Regenschein]

So the focus of this team is CM offensive Suicune. Great! but 5/6 of your team is walled by Blissey (include Suicune). You are going to have a hard time switching in with Scizor, because of the threat of flamethrower. Lets try and fix this.

The first little nickpick would be to get rid of torment tran, It works well with Toxic Spikes, but thats about it. I recommend running a Life Orb set.

4HP/ 252 SPA/ 252 Spe
Naive nature
~ Fire Blast
~ HP Grass
~ Earth Power
~ Explosion

( just watch out out protect on Blissey!)

Alright this gives you a lure per say. Try to keep Suicune hidden till late game, so when Blissey comes in to wall your Heatran you can explode and attempt to sweep with Suicune

Ok, now lets even things out by adding a physcial attacker. A good choice is Breloom over Celebi, it gives you a nice Tyranitar counter and can utilise spore. Also checks Vappy and other Bulky waters who threaten a Suicune sweep.

Breloom @ Toxic Orb
48 HP/ 252 ATT/ 208 SPE
Adamant nature
~ Spore
~ Seed Bomb
~ Stone Edge
~ Mach Punch/ Focus Punch

The only reason I recommend Stone Edge is because you cant let something like Salamence set up on your team.

might add some more later, this is just what i saw to begin with.

Thanks a ton! The only question I have (which might be pretty stupid) is, if I have a Jolteon to take care of Bulky Waters, why do I need Breloom? I have Scizor as a physical attacker, and it makes more sense to me that I would want some defense with Celebi rather than another physical attacker. It does sound good as a Tyranitar counter though. The Heatran set is much appreciated, I knew TormenTran seemed out of place.

 

[Rising_Dusk]

Breloom covers both bulky waters and Blissey, among other things. Also, Scizor is a tough physical attacker to get in vs. Blissey if she's running Flamethrower/Toxic (which is very common). If she's not running that, you can get in and probably Pursuit her to death (but TWave would be bleh). Breloom beats Blissey by being perpetually poisoned and threatening a STAB Physical Fighting move while still running through Bulky waters.

I feel like the set he suggested should be a SubPunch set, though.

 

[Bloo]

3. Have some actual words in your post beyond your six Pokemon and their moves. Not following this makes your post quite boring to read and rate. All Pokemon should have a good reason for being in your team anyway, so why not post that reason? If you are having trouble with this one, start by giving an explanation for each team member. Why are they there? What role do they serve? How do you get them in? Then, give an explanation of how you would open with the team and how you would go about using it. All of these things help people rate your team and allow us to offer more helpful advice.

This does not mean add one sentence saying "Standard x" or "all-around awesome" after each Pokemon. If you put thought into making the team, you can put thought into posting it.

You need to improve on your descriptions. Have a look at some of the teams in the RMT archive to see what is expected. Try and stay away from 1-2 line descriptions. Explain why you chose a Pokemon, what it does, how does it contribute to the success of the team, etc. If you fix the descriptions properly, PM me the changes and I'll unlock your thread if the new descriptions are sufficient enough.