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np: UU - Rain Drops Keep Falling on my Head

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These are the only two sceptile sets that I like...

sceptile @ Leftovers/ Life Orb
252 SPA 252 SPE
Leaf Storm
Hp Ice
Leech Seed
Substitute

sceptile @ Life Orb
252 ATK 252 SPE
LeafBlade
EQ
RockSlide
Swords Dance


SubSeed Sceptile can stall for an eternity.
SD Sceptile is one of the better late game sweepers.

specstile or life orb special sceptile are both good sets as well IMO.
 
Wondering if I want to make a serious effort to make the rating requirements ... probably not though, because the first few weeks of April are going to be some of the busiest of my entire life. gl to all other would-be voters!

Otherwise I think Specs Sceptile has a major advantage over Specs Venomoth because it's got higher speed. Much higher speed in fact. Its SpA stat is higher, too.
 
UU is one of the easiest metagames to dominate, so I doubt either rating requirement will be too much of a hassle for me to reach. So long as weather teams keep giving me free wins, I'll be a happy player.

The way things are looking right now, nothing is in this metagame is terribly difficult to counter other than Rhyperior. As long as I'm one of the select few people who use the CB set, I don't think pushing for it to get nominated will go anywhere. If the round keeps going this way, I'll probably either nominate him or nothing.

EDIT: Wow, this is a riot...I qualified for the last round too and didn't even know about it...not like it would have changed anything, as I would have definitely voted Honch and Gallade BL.
 
Wondering if I want to make a serious effort to make the rating requirements ... probably not though, because the first few weeks of April are going to be some of the busiest of my entire life. gl to all other would-be voters!

Otherwise I think Specs Sceptile has a major advantage over Specs Venomoth because it's got higher speed. Much higher speed in fact. Its SpA stat is higher, too.

It really isn't hard at all to get meet the requirements. I don't have a lot of free time either; I just play around 30 minutes or so a day and that is more than enough.
 
I have played a few matches using SD Leafeon w/ baton Pass, suprisingly effective (hate phazers though). Recipients are RP Rhyperior, Azumarill (Moltres Check). With those few matches I am seeing a rise in scarfed Venusaur leads which seem to be the craze now and Mesprit is more common- makes a great check to stuff like Sub Punch Azumarill, just not fast enough, needs to invest heaps to outspeed Venu :(
 
Probably the only Pokemon I would want to nominate (At the moment) would be Moltres. As you all know, I don't use offensive Moltres, but the SubRoost staller is absolutely ridiculous. The thing just doesn't die. Most of them time (Barring the times where I am forced out by Azumarill or something), Moltres only dies because I feel it's appropriate to death fodder him. By that time, he's probably Toxic'd or stalled out at least one of the opponent's Pokemon already. Stealth Rock is probably it's best check, along with stuff that use Rock Blast, and bulky phazers that can Roar me out and make me take 50% upon next switch in (And you can't always guarrantee Stealth Rock up with me either).
 
I have played a few matches using SD Leafeon w/ baton Pass, suprisingly effective (hate phazers though). Recipients are RP Rhyperior, Azumarill (Moltres Check). With those few matches I am seeing a rise in scarfed Venusaur leads which seem to be the craze now and Mesprit is more common- makes a great check to stuff like Sub Punch Azumarill, just not fast enough, needs to invest heaps to outspeed Venu :(
Seriously, so many people use this (considering the fact that the pokemon isnt popular generally). You guys are the sole i run roar steelix.

The way things are looking right now, nothing is in this metagame is terribly difficult to counter other than Rhyperior. As long as I'm one of the select few people who use the CB set, I don't think pushing for it to get nominated will go anywhere. If the round keeps going this way, I'll probably either nominate him or nothing.
I wouldnt nominate something unless you think it realistically can win a vote to get banned. It gets harder each time you try. I dont think rhyperior will get banned because i havent seen a popular movement against it.
 
I really do hate playing against Rhyperior though, prediction is crucial when fighting it. That thing is like Specs Latias in OU right now, and while Rhyperior lacks the Speed, he easily makes up in bulk and Solid Rock, so killing him is an absolute pain.
 
I really do hate playing against Rhyperior though, prediction is crucial when fighting it. That thing is like Specs Latias in OU right now, and while Rhyperior lacks the Speed, he easily makes up in bulk and Solid Rock, so killing him is an absolute pain.

I agree Rhypeior can be a pain especially those damn subperiors who can rape stall with Milotic gone
 
It really isn't hard at all to get meet the requirements. I don't have a lot of free time either; I just play around 30 minutes or so a day and that is more than enough.

It's not that easy. I have to make a team, psych myself up to play it (not easy, I assure you), concentrate on playing, etc. I rarely play more than 5 games a day, and these past few days I've not played any simply because it's so stressful. But don't worry about me; I might make an effort to make the next round, too.

gl hf getting the rating requirements.
 
Let's not forget the occasional loss to a random sets you back by a lot and negates most of your hard work up until then. That's a pretty large deterrent from playing at all.
 
Probably the only Pokemon I would want to nominate (At the moment) would be Moltres. As you all know, I don't use offensive Moltres, but the SubRoost staller is absolutely ridiculous. The thing just doesn't die. Most of them time (Barring the times where I am forced out by Azumarill or something), Moltres only dies because I feel it's appropriate to death fodder him. By that time, he's probably Toxic'd or stalled out at least one of the opponent's Pokemon already. Stealth Rock is probably it's best check, along with stuff that use Rock Blast, and bulky phazers that can Roar me out and make me take 50% upon next switch in (And you can't always guarrantee Stealth Rock up with me either).
Agreed. The metagame is pretty stable right now and the only Pokemon that really fulfills any of the suspect characteristics in my opinion is Moltres. Offensive Moltres is just terribly hard to switch into, and like shrang said the SubRoost set is really hard to take down. Still, I'm on the fence about my opinion on Moltres. I think if it were to be nominated again it'll probably be another close vote.

Edit: And Froslass too, how could I forget.
 
Sigh... I'll never make the upper limits, my internet ensures that I keep losing occasionally. But I'm cool with paragraphs, so it doesn't really matter.

I can't see any suspects this meta, except Froslass.
 
Specstileis outclassed by SpecsVena IMO. In fact Nearly every single set except for SubSeed is outclassed and then again Vena has more bulk


ugh, throwing around outclassed again when they shouldn't be played the same at all.

venu has bulk and sleep powder, but its much slower, has a lower special attack, and doesn't have the special move pool that sceptile has.
 
oK... I don't play Shoddy for a month IIRC...
So what changes of metagames do we have(besides the ducks going to BL)?
Any new "cool poke" discovered, sets being more used...?
 
oK... I don't play Shoddy for a month IIRC...
So what changes of metagames do we have(besides the ducks going to BL)?
Any new "cool poke" discovered, sets being more used...?

Honestly the metagame is pretty broken up at the moment, nothing is dominating... except rain.

some observations have been noticed; dugtrio is increasing in use (to help with raikou?), houndoom is liking scarf (to help against duggy?). hitmonlee is coming back. Lots of things are being tried.

EDIT: Slowbro is used more often then before too
 
Honestly the metagame is pretty broken up at the moment, nothing is dominating... except rain.

some observations have been noticed; dugtrio is increasing in use (to help with raikou?), houndoom is liking scarf (to help against duggy?). hitmonlee is coming back. Lots of things are being tried.

EDIT: Slowbro is used more often then before too

I think that Slowbro wasn't that much used because of Cresselia. Before Cresselia got booted down to UU, Slowbro was always on the top 20 pokes.

Hitmonlee is back... Cresselia is the reason again IMO. Though i still prefer Primeape for Scarf sets, Hitmonlee is a nice CB poke, and priority is always good.

Looks like my good old NU team is still very usable (and it's even better now thanks to no P-Z trolling my poor Articuno) after all those changes...

About BP users... yes, the only reason to use Cradily outside of Sandstorm. Pass Agility to it, and begin to SD while something like Steelix can't Roar you out (and no Milotic can Haze something spamming a grass move). Or the other way around (pass SD and Cradily uses Rock Polish).

I'm willing to use P-2 for utility purposes (Dugtrio? Physical Arcanine? Altaria? Some Rhyperiors here and there?), but it's hard for me to put this it on a team for some reason...
 
*sigh* Dammit, my team building sucks so badly, there's not a snowball's chance in Hell of making the rating requirements... That said, I'm not seeing any suspects right now in the games I've played, except maybe Froslass. Goddamn Spikes.

Also, this question was asked a couple of times at the start of the thread, but was never answered:

I'm curious as to what "special circumstances" means for Raikou. What exactly are they? And do these apply to Froslass too?
 
I think it means if Raikou gets a new move or other advantage that makes it totally broken. For example, Honchkrow was very good before Brave Bird. Once it got it, it pushed it over the top. I know Honchkrow didn't need special circumstances to be nominated, but this is a good example if it did.
 
*sigh* Dammit, my team building sucks so badly, there's not a snowball's chance in Hell of making the rating requirements... That said, I'm not seeing any suspects right now in the games I've played, except maybe Froslass. Goddamn Spikes.

Also, this question was asked a couple of times at the start of the thread, but was never answered:

Try to use Pokemon that "everyone" else uses if you have trouble building your own team. I know my old Spikestacking team that was so successful last round but not so much this round (people know it as well as I do -_-) is "not as good" but it would easily get me requirements. I got to like 1540 CRE in a day, it's not too difficult! Go look for a 5 star RMT [brag] such as mine [/brag] and you really shouldn't have trouble getting at least 1600 rating. That's not that much, at 1540 CRE I had a rating of like 1750 iirc, so you could probably get away with having a 1400 cre and 1600 rating.

Anyway, I think what Jabba meant by those "special circumstances" is that you cannot simply say "Raikou was nommed last time so lets just nom it again this time" if you try to nominate it and something new has to be brought to the table. It's pretty clear that (either we are retarded or) Raikou is not "obviously BL" because we have voted it UU twice in a row. Note that "we have voted" excludes myself, btw.
 
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