Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.

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SR? oh please, this is not even a big problem for arcanine since he got morning sun anyway, the problem is his pathetic movepool, besides flare blitz and extremespeed his physical options are limited to thunder fang, crunch and iron head while his special atack is nothing to write home about, he is a pure fire, that come with a bunch of weakness and more important:he lack a way to hurt bulky waters.
 
I, for one don't want the pseudo-legend to be another dragon, I want it to be... something else. Similar to the way Metagross was handled. (as in typing not x4 weak to something, and not a dragon), either that or they make two 600 BST like they did in gen III. Another idea, would be the gen's dragon isn't 600 BST, but can be threatning (Kingdra, Flygon anyone?).
 
SR? oh please, this is not even a big problem for arcanine since he got morning sun anyway, the problem is his pathetic movepool, besides flare blitz and extremespeed his physical options are limited to thunder fang, crunch and iron head while his special atack is nothing to write home about, he is a pure fire, that come with a bunch of weakness and more important:he lack a way to hurt bulky waters.
Now recently I've been introduced to the idea that prevos expand movesets. Is that what we need here? Could a prevo fix arcanine?
 
Now recently I've been introduced to the idea that prevos expand movesets. Is that what we need here? Could a prevo fix arcanine?

I'm not a fan of this line of reasoning. We have a totally new generation, in which Gamefreak can essentially do what ever they want. If they think a pokemon should get new moves, they should just give it new moves. TMs, move tutors, breeding changes, move relearner, even base movepool changes, these are all ways that new moves can be handled. There is no reason to resort to a pre-evo that is nothing more than a waste of a Dex entry.
 
I'm not a fan of this line of reasoning. We have a totally new generation, in which Gamefreak can essentially do what ever they want. If they think a pokemon should get new moves, they should just give it new moves. TMs, move tutors, breeding changes, move relearner, even base movepool changes, these are all ways that new moves can be handled. There is no reason to resort to a pre-evo that is nothing more than a waste of a Dex entry.


This. Prevo getting new moves is just a dumb reason. Gf can give Pokemon moves, they dont need to make Prevos.
 
Prevos aren't just good for moves. They can significantly change how a Pokemon fits into the game. For example, look at Roselia. Third-gen, it was a rather underwhelming Grass-type that was used by those aroma ladies. Fourth-gen, thanks to the addition of Budew and Roserade, it became an excellent 3-stage evolution that started out weak and common, went to average, and ended at powerful. I'd like to see things like this done with other mediocre Pokemon, like Kangaskhan or Girafarig.
 
But isnt one evo enough then? i just dont get the point of prevos, except other branch evos maybe, but then you can just add an entirely new pokemon.
 
Prevos aren't just good for moves. They can significantly change how a Pokemon fits into the game. For example, look at Roselia. Third-gen, it was a rather underwhelming Grass-type that was used by those aroma ladies. Fourth-gen, thanks to the addition of Budew and Roserade, it became an excellent 3-stage evolution that started out weak and common, went to average, and ended at powerful. I'd like to see things like this done with other mediocre Pokemon, like Kangaskhan or Girafarig.


> Implying that Kangaskhan doesn't evolve from Cubone.
 
Prevos aren't just good for moves. They can significantly change how a Pokemon fits into the game. For example, look at Roselia. Third-gen, it was a rather underwhelming Grass-type that was used by those aroma ladies. Fourth-gen, thanks to the addition of Budew and Roserade, it became an excellent 3-stage evolution that started out weak and common, went to average, and ended at powerful. I'd like to see things like this done with other mediocre Pokemon, like Kangaskhan or Girafarig.

*Doesn't understand why Roserade wasn't enough and they had to waste space for Budew*
 
After trying to figure out why theres a sepeare Zorua and Zoroark event, when Zorua can evolve into zoroark amd i think i've figured it out.

If you notice, the even Zoroark appears to be Female, while the Zorua is Male. So i think its possible they might have their own breeding group, so both the Zorua and Zoroark are needed to breed.
 
After trying to figure out why theres a sepeare Zorua and Zoroark event, when Zorua can evolve into zoroark amd i think i've figured it out.

If you notice, the even Zoroark appears to be Female, while the Zorua is Male. So i think its possible they might have their own breeding group, so both the Zorua and Zoroark are needed to breed.

unless they change something that has been used for three gens now, they could just breed with ditto. although they easily could change this and have no reason not to, i wouldn't expect them to do so.
 
After trying to figure out why theres a sepeare Zorua and Zoroark event, when Zorua can evolve into zoroark amd i think i've figured it out.

If you notice, the even Zoroark appears to be Female, while the Zorua is Male. So i think its possible they might have their own breeding group, so both the Zorua and Zoroark are needed to breed.


That's an excellent observation. I haven't done any events lately, the last one I did was the Pokewalker event for the Pikachu's.
Are all events via WiFi, or do they still have the Pay2Gotoeventandgetalolpokemon things?
 
The only thing I can think of that actually provides a reason for new prevos is Little Cup, and that's only really needed when the lowest evolutionary form of a species is already too powerful for that format (Scyther).
 
That's an excellent observation. I haven't done any events lately, the last one I did was the Pokewalker event for the Pikachu's.
Are all events via WiFi, or do they still have the Pay2Gotoeventandgetalolpokemon things?

There are stilla few events which you have to be at a specific location, to access their wi fi :P

But Zorua and Zoroark will be activated by trading the yet-to-be-distributed Legendary gerbils/ celebi to B/W
 
Anyone else think that Gear is just another worthless version of Magnemite and it's respected evos?

:|

in design, yes. however, Gear lacks a second typing, and we haven't seen it's evolutions yet (if any), meaning it could evolve into something that separates it from the Magnemite line in terms of design. it also has different abilities, and will certainly have different moves, which further separates it from Magnemite.

also, I find it ridiculous that Zoroark and Zorua are event only Pokemon. if they were legendary, I would be somewhat ok with it (I still don't like the idea of event only legendaries, but at least I'm used to it), but that's not the case. I won't use either of them regardless, but it's the principal that they are limiting the Pokemon we can get. of course, if you can breed and trade them, that would make this much more acceptable.
 
in design, yes. however, Gear lacks a second typing, and we haven't seen it's evolutions yet (if any), meaning it could evolve into something that separates it from the Magnemite line in terms of design. it also has different abilities, and will certainly have different moves, which further separates it from Magnemite.
I hope its evolution stays pure Steel. The only pure Steel-types we have are Mawile and Registeel. The real question is, will Gear fuse into one Pokemon like the Beldum line, or gang up with more like Magnemite :P
also, I find it ridiculous that Zoroark and Zorua are event only Pokemon. if they were legendary, I would be somewhat ok with it (I still don't like the idea of event only legendaries, but at least I'm used to it), but that's not the case. I won't use either of them regardless, but it's the principal that they are limiting the Pokemon we can get. of course, if you can breed and trade them, that would make this much more acceptable.
I'm thinking this is the case. It's like Manaphy, except you can actually evolve it.
 
*Doesn't understand why Roserade wasn't enough and they had to waste space for Budew*
Now that's just silly. Roselia is too strong to get early on. It's something you need to have available for the middle of the game. Budew had to be made or Roselia would have to be delayed so long that there would be no early Grass besides Oddish, which is underwhelming in the extreme come Vileplume.

Really, think of this outside of a competitive aspect, and into game design. Should we remove everything but final evos, so that we aren't wasting space for inferior Pokemon? Should we remove all NU Pokemon because they aren't good enough for UU or OU?
 
Tytus said:
I hope its evolution stays pure Steel. The only pure Steel-types we have are Mawile and Registeel. The real question is, will Gear fuse into one Pokemon like the Beldum line, or gang up with more like Magnemite :P

I do too. honestly, I can't really think of a fitting secondary typing anyways. electric is all that comes to mind, since gears are used in electronics, but even thats a stretch since they are used in many other things too. Hell, it could be part Water if you want to relate it to steam locomotion. pure Steel typing just works with it's theme.

getting more gears seems pretty strait forward, although that would make it too much like Magneton for my liking. Combining seems out of place with it's design, as gears generally need other gears to function properly. However, if it worked like Weezing where there are multiple gears with a larger one as the main Gear, and smaller ones attached to it, combining could work.

personally, I want it to evolve to look progressively more machine like; ending up with some sort of clockwork like design. tons of gears (literal gears, not tons of the same Pokemon... silly name -_-) working together to make a complex contraption; seems like a good progression of increasing power that the evolution could follow. Give it abilities like Own Tempo, and something else. Insomnia maybe? (alarm clock)
 
checked it and translated it. I dont see any footage. Anyone else hava a good idea? (other than lmgtfy, because I've tried.)

Errr... is that some ploy to make me just get it for you? I don't know how you could miss the little bars that have a video camera on them. Go here and click on that and four videos will pop up showcasing the starters and Hiun City.

I really like the idea of Gearu's final evolution being something made up of a bunch of Gearu's to make some sort of animal-like machine powered by clockwork. It'll probably keep Plus/Minus as Abilities though.

Also, didn't Budew, you know, give Roselia the Status Powders? That's enough for me to appreciate its existence. The other useless once introduced in Gen IV (not named Riolu), Bonsly and Mime Jr., they really don't need to have any reason to exist other than to associate Mr. Mime and Sudowoodo with each other for some reason...
 
Also, form changes.

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Confirmed as Gearu evolution for Gen V?
 
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