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[Standard] Lord of the Flies Mafia - The Stranded Win!

Ok, Raverist claimed a retarded role AND gave incorrect results to HFB. So, basically, he is the best target here, even better than TIK, who may just be confused (although I still believe he is mafia).

Lynch Raverist
 
Okay, here are my thoughts.

TIK, in my opinion is EXTREMELY likely to be mafia. HFB seems a little slippery to me but US and others on IRC convinced me to Lynch Raverist tonight. If raverist isn't mafia then HFB is a suspect along with TIK.
 
Raverist said:
Are you lot always so keen to lynch villagers d1?

As soon as I can get onto this bloody IRC, I'll give a proper explanation why lynching me is a bad idea.
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Why would it be a bad idea to lynch you. If you've been telling the truth, we wouldn't be losing much and we would get an additional suspect in HFB along with TIK.
 
Y'know, UncleSam, going off saying "he's a better target lynch him not me" in the way you did only arose more suspicion, but maybe that's just me.

And HFB, I'd like to here what this is about myself.
 
I don't believe I have to say this again but to retract votes you have to edit the ORIGINAL POST PEOPLE. Also everyone feel free to compare my PM to TIK's and to your own to see who's is the real one.
 
UncleSam said:
Ok ya, trust the guy who didn't even bother posting his role PM. This is my REAL role PM, for what it's worth:


I would remind everyone that TIK may well be this general character or aligned with him, and that should this lynch fail, TIK will simply blame the inspector instead, claiming he was hoodwinked or something. Will explain later in the post So ya, if you guys really wanna bandwagon in like 4 hours go ahead, that is how the village makes rash decisions.

Edit: By the way, that FAKE role PM is awfully concise Will explain this later in the post. I would like to point this out because TIK is clearly making this up. I will refrain from voting for him just in case he IS village but not the inspector, but still, I don't see how TIK could buy this bullshit.

Edit 2: Seriously, retract a few votes on me so we can sort this out guys. Rushed lynches kill villages.
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UncleSam said:
For what it's worth, I would like to point out that TIK started this lynch on me RIGHT after I got offline. He could have talked to me, but he didn't. Clearly he was hoping to just rush me out of here than claim he was hoodwinked by another inspector claim then lynch someone else tomorrow as the "bad inspector". Clearly it wasnt because it was about 10:00 pm PACIFIC STANDARD TIME where I lived and people were going to sleep, and near the time EVERYONE got results from staraptor call? Clearly it wasnt because I was complaining about the experience of the player list before, and wanted to use my experience to lead the village with my results? He may be a mafia inspector, or just aligned with that mafia role PM, but if he claims that that is his role, then he is the clear guy to lynch here. (Changed vote) unless he wants to say that someone else gave him that role PM. You guys can make a judgment call as to which role PM is real, because it is pretty obvious if you ask me.
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UncleSam said:
I already explained why that logic doesn't apply here BT: TIK will claim that someone else claimed the inspect role and then lynch someone ELSE who gave "false results". (My response will be in log form, as I argued with you on irc about this.) You have to either trust TIK NOW or trust me, and you can look at our role PMs to see who to trust. I am quite certain mine will stand up under an inspection whereas his will not.

Edit: But he will say he planned to be the mouthpiece but was hoodwinked. That is what he will SAY, anyhow.
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THE_IRON_KENYAN>Say the mafia use me as a mouthpiece
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>make me mislynch a villager
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>this is a dumb move because no idiot would outright lynch me the next day
<HFB|afk>Man
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>they would inspect me first
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>thus giving the village an early leader
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>maybe not early enough
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>but very falsified
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>and safe
<HD>you done?
<HFB|afk>No
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>why would a mafia do that unless they were dumb?
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>yeah im done
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>hang on
<HFB|afk>The village WOULD lynch you
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>no im not
<HFB|afk>Since that's how it actually is
=-=Mode #candle +v UncleSam by HD
<UncleSam>ok
<UncleSam>tik
<HD>fite to the death
<UncleSam>thats not the case
<HD>hfb
<HD>make it -m
<HD>once they're done
<UncleSam>they would listen to yo i the point
<HD>since i have to go afk now
<UncleSam>not lynchyou
<UncleSam>and you would lynch another villager
<UncleSam>claiming he was the "mafia feeding you false info"
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>why would they follow me AGAIN?
<UncleSam>thats the point
<UncleSam>you just said they would follow you lol
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>they can easily get enough info the next night to either clean me or just put me out as rubbish
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>no way
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>and i mean no way
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>will htey fall for it
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>again
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>jesus christ
<UncleSam>fine, and they havent
<UncleSam>which is good
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>all games have more than 1 info garthering role
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>they could use these if they didnt have an inspector
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>seems unlikely that they wouldnt though
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>to pin me the next night
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>otherwise
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>I would be
<UncleSam>"if theydidnt have an inspector"
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>in that case
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>a great village leader
<HFB|afk>Whatn does -m do?
<UncleSam>you are claiming inspector
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>yes well im exploring all the option
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>dont take me out of context
<UncleSam>it gives everyone the ability to talk
<HFB|afk>ok
<HFB|afk>Command for that?
<UncleSam>i dunno
<UncleSam>how do you change modes?
<UncleSam>someone pm hfb with the correct command please
<UncleSam>i dunno why hd stopped letting people talk in the fucking main game channel
=-=Fangren is now known as Awayngren
<UncleSam>ok everyone join #fire
<UncleSam>so we can all talk
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>and obviously if the inspector used me as a mouthpiece
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>village that is
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>he wouldnt lynch a villager lol
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>unless it was a miller
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>so there
<UncleSam>go to #fire TIK
<THE_IRON_KENYAN>im pretty much done argueing on THAT specific point


Chatzilla is a bitch who doesnt have timetables, but there were plently of people there to confirm that this chat did go on.

UncleSam said:
Um, maybe because he can claim he was going to be the mouthpiece for an inspect? I already said that BT.

I mean, dear god, look at his role PM. There is NOTHING there and you guys lynched me off of that? LOL. Way to strawman me here dude. People are lynching you because of my results. What would you rather do given the lynch options so far,


HFB's proposal backed by you: UncleSam>TIK, he claimed miller with role inspector
<HFB>Is noy 100%likely or something
<UncleSam>but gave a result hfb claims is wrong
<FreakOfNature>TIK, there was an explanation and you missed it because HFB is too damn retarded/lazy to post it on the thread
<Raverist>It's not role inspector.
<Raverist>It's role NAME checker.
<UncleSam>role name finder=role inspector
<UncleSam>anyway
<UncleSam>clearly, one of raverist or hfb is lying
<HFB>OR
<HFB>Raverist is whta I did not expect
<UncleSam>plus, i got a night result that said they are BOTH lying
<HFB>AN Insane/Naive/Paranoid

So there you have it. This dilemma could easily be solved by inspecting HFB, potentially sparring both of them. Neither of them are trustworthy at all, and dont have the arguments to back up the lynch.

Pretty much what HFB is saying is that raverist lied and claimed a suspicious role, so we lynch him. But he could be lying, and there very well is good reason for him to do so. Saves his ass so he gets another night. Clearly not as reliable as my full inspector claim with reasonings, as seen in bold before and after this.


THE_IRON_KENYAN's lynch proposal: Lynch UncleSam based around the lengthy arguements presented before and after in this post, based on a very common village role in pretty much 95% of games, based on the fact that im the only inspector to claim so far.


 His mafia role PM looks way more legit, which just proves that he knows someone with that role PM.

Oh please. You are simply IGNORING all the other arguments ive lain out in favor of this one. Anomalies like role pm "thickness" occur all the time without a host knowing. This may be a reason not to trust me right off the bat, I will agree with you on there, but it is a shoddy reason to not lynch you.
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hailflameblast said:
Everybody, we do NOT WANT a mjority so early. Trust me, and stop all the voting. Retract the votes.

We still have time. If UncleSam is deemed to be mafia, we have moer than enough time to lynch him off. So I call for a halt to the voting.

I shall explaim more if you hit me up on IRC.

EDIT: New lynch target. Lynch Raverist. Extremely idiotic claim, I suspect he is Bowser of the Destructive.

Since you explained it so nicely in #candle and #fire, why dont you just take it a step further so we can fully analyze your arguments?

Shall explain if you PM me or hit me up on IRC.

EDIT2:EVERYBODY! DO NOT TRUST TIK!
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Pretty much done, keep the lynch on Uncle
 
Lol TIK seems to be forgetting that he has by FAR the fishiest role pm claim yet. Just go back and look at the PMs people, and you will see who is right.
 
UncleSam said:
Lol TIK seems to be forgetting that he has by FAR the fishiest role pm claim yet. Just go back and look at the PMs people, and you will see who is right.
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Look at that. You see what he just fucking did? He pretty much GLEANED by all what I just said, not responding to any of it. If he had such good arguments keeping himself here, then he should be able to respond to what I just said.
 
Maybe I "GLEANED" by everything you said because none of it matters at all if people don't believe you are an inspector, and it is obvious you are not from that absolute shit fake PM you posted?
 
Frankly, I still think that we should go on and lynch Raverist. If HFB is wrong, we get another lynch target. So basically, it's a win-win situation for us. Besides, TIK seems very scummy. Only an idiot would pub claim village-aligned inspector without any targets.
 
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