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Something else cool with this potential evo (which could happen despite the whole "it's a beginner bug type chain" argument)...electric/bug only has two weaknesses (Fire/Ground), even if those are pretty prevalent in the metagame we know now.

Stuff like Gliscor and Magnezone could wall it though :/ But still, a usable bug that's not from GSC? Pretty good stuff.

EDIT: Fire/Rock. My bad
 
The Pokemon Pimp said:
Something else cool with this potential evo (which could happen despite the whole "it's a beginner bug type chain" argument)...electric/bug only has two weaknesses (Fire/Ground), even if those are pretty prevalent in the metagame we know now.

Stuff like Gliscor and Magnezone could wall it though :/ But still, a usable bug that's not from GSC? Pretty good stuff.
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Electric/bug's weaknesses are actually Fire and Rock, so it's still SR weak (unless GF nerfs SR or changes how it works or whatever). If they do so - and there's no saying they will - then Yanmega certainly becomes a usable bug.
 
Oak said:
That must explain why Beautifly evolves from Metapod and Toxicroak from Poliwhirl.

And despite the fact that there are hundreds of classifications in the spider family.

/bad logic
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Time for a quick couple of factoids about arachnids

1) GF have it right, arachnids tend to only have 4 walking legs. The front 2 are mostly for feeding and the next two for crushing prey and the final 4 for walking. (OK they have that bit wrong iirc, but I'm impressed they got the 4 walking legs right)

2) Never mind arachnids - there are 37,000 types of spider alone. GF have a lot of room to be working with. 37,001 if you count spider man.

Not all that relevant but I think it shows the scope that GF have to deal with when it comes to spiders
 
This is starting to sound a lot like when we first were introduced to Burmy and Carnivine. Most everyone was convinced that Burmy was a pre-evolution to Pineco because they're both bagworms, and Carnivine was an alternate evolution to Weepinbell because they're both fly traps (also because people think Weepinbell should get one because Gloom did).

Munna and Denchura are not related to Drowzee and Ariados respectively.
 
Youkai Enslaver said:
This is starting to sound a lot like when we first were introduced to Burmy and Carnivine. Most everyone was convinced that Burmy was a pre-evolution to Pineco because they're both bagworms, and Carnivine was an alternate evolution to Weepinbell because they're both fly traps (also because people think Weepinbell should get one because Gloom did).

Munna and Denchura are not related to Drowzee and Ariados respectively.
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I agree on Denchura not being related to Ariados, but Munna, I do believe it is a pre-evolution of Drowzee, not only because of classification and typing, but ALSO they have the same ability choices (Forewarn and Insomnia), I think the odds go for a Drowzee pre-evo, much more likely than the 'previously-speculated' Carnivine being branched-evo of Weepinbell and Burmy being pre-evo of Pineco.
 
SMZ said:
I agree on Denchura not being related to Ariados, but Munna, I do believe it is a pre-evolution of Drowzee, not only because of classification and typing, but ALSO they have the same ability choices (Forewarn and Insomnia), I think the odds go for a Drowzee pre-evo, much more likely than the 'previously-speculated' Carnivine being branched-evo of Weepinbell and Burmy being pre-evo of Pineco.
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Munna has Forewarn and Synchronize.
 
Youkai Enslaver said:
Munna has Forewarn and Synchronize.
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-Considering Munna has Sync and "another" ability it could be the abra of this generation.

-Abra had Synchronize + Inner Focus and was a special decent sweeper.

-Ralts had Synchronize + Trace and was a decent special sweeper.

-And all of them are the psychic type...

-Alakazam was very fast and had very high SpA.

-Gardevoir had good SpA too but he was much slower and the stats were moved to SpD.

-Someone calculated Munna's base HP is 90 , so its final evo might have around 150+ and will also have decent SpA.

Just what came in my mind....
 
Has anyone considered the idea that jelly/slime fetus is actually a grass type? Thats the immediate impression I got, with the "slime" actually being some kind of plant or leaves surrounding it, and the colored spots along its arms looking like different kinds of fruit. Am I the only one?
 
-Doryuuzu will be Bug/Steel
-Desukan will be Ground in some way or another
-Denchura Bug/Electric

The Honey place is a gym, the gym leader has Denchura
 
elchupo said:
Has anyone considered the idea that jelly/slime fetus is actually a grass type? Thats the immediate impression I got, with the "slime" actually being some kind of plant or leaves surrounding it, and the colored spots along its arms looking like different kinds of fruit. Am I the only one?
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Nah, I got Grass/Rock until I realised it was probably a fighting type in a ghostly ectoplasm
 
PKMN Trainer Manson said:
EDIT: Honestly, the only good reason Munna ISN'T a Drowzee prevo is the fact that it wasn't already stated in the Corocoro it was introduced in. What possible reason do they have to hide it?
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Smart guy. Exactly.

Corocoro doesn't hide this information. They stated Roserade and Electivire were evolutions of Roselia and Electabuzz respectively when they were revealed. People believed that Carnivine was a Weepinbell evo, Burmy a Pineco pre-evo, and Kricketot a Volbeat/Illumise pre-evo after they were revealed on Corocoro even though it didn't state anything about it being those. Why was that? Cause they weren't related to those speculated Pokes.
 
I really doubt the tarantula is an evolution to ariados. Why would a pokemon line go:

Bug/Poison->Bug/Poison->Bug/Electric?

TBH I think that the closest it could be to the spinarak family could be an alternate evo from spinarak.

---------------->Bug/Poison
Bug/Poison--|
---------------->Bug/Electric

Is a lot more likely IMO.
 
Youkai Enslaver said:
This is starting to sound a lot like when we first were introduced to Burmy and Carnivine. Most everyone was convinced that Burmy was a pre-evolution to Pineco because they're both bagworms, and Carnivine was an alternate evolution to Weepinbell because they're both fly traps (also because people think Weepinbell should get one because Gloom did).

Munna and Denchura are not related to Drowzee and Ariados respectively.
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Here's the thing though, we don't really know anything about Electula other than its name. We haven't even seen its front. I don't think your argument really holds water.

Mario With Lasers said:
It cannot be an Ariados evo simply because its base HP is equal to Ariados's at best.

And seriously, I'll be pissed if our first Bug/Electric pokémon is an alternative evo to a three-gen old early bug pokémon. I don't want Denchura to have a pathetic 390 BST with no chance of evolving.
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@Mario with Lasers, yeah, because they've NEVER made a Pokemon who had one stat that didn't improve when it evolved.
 
I think HP always goes up when a Pokemon evolves. I could be wrong, but most of the time the speed stat is the one that stays the same or goes down.
 
Well yesterday I went to Gamestop and they had the binder with the upcoming releases, so I looked at it and flipped over to the DS games seeing that I only have a Wii and my DS. It said 4/1/2011 for Pokemon Black and Pokemon White, whether or not this is a final release date or not, this is what they had in that binder at Gamestop so I am expecting Black and White to come out in America early Spring/April.
 
Also, I don't see a horn on Dentula either. I would think even from that angle, we would be able to see a horn on it, and to be an evolution of Ariados, it would have to have a horn-- that's one of the line's main features. But there's a good possibility we just can't see it, but I think we would be able to.

Also, the little protrusions just... aren't legs. They don't even look like legs. They're much shorter than the actual legs, and don't have the little spike at the tip like the legs do.

I can't believe some people still think quadrupedalrockmon is related to the Nosepass line. It doesn't. Even. Have. A nose.
 
Nintenfreak said:
Here's the thing though, we don't really know anything about Electula other than its name. We haven't even seen its front. I don't think your argument really holds water.



@Mario with Lasers, yeah, because they've NEVER made a Pokemon who had one stat that didn't improve when it evolved.
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I can't name many times when an animal-based Pokemon evolved into a different species with a different color scheme.
 
i still believe that tarantula thing will evolve from ariados even tho they like totally different,ets not forget the huge difference between vigroth and slaking.
 
DDRMaster said:
I think HP always goes up when a Pokemon evolves. I could be wrong, but most of the time the speed stat is the one that stays the same or goes down.
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Phanphy's HP stat remains the same, at 90 base, when it evolves into Donphan.

I'd like to think of Electula as an Ariados evolution, if only because its design is so similar, from what we've seen so far...I'd be disappointed if the design of a completely new and unrelated Pokemon were so uninspired.
Gothdevoir seems one of the most intriguing new Pokemon, to me...but nobody's talking about it... :(
 
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