Torterra has amazing sweeping ability with Rock Polish set, perhaps its most feared set in UU. It's not the fact that it's a bad pokemon, but it doesn't have the best stats to use them. Grass/Ground is also not the best typing, being 4x weak to ice, as well as bug, poison, fire, and fire. If there were to be a new Grass/Ground pokemon, it could make OU easily if it had around 80-90 base speed, access to Rock Polish, and a decent enough attack stat. So no, Torterra doesn't suck, it just doesn't have the right stats in the right places to be as effective as it could be.
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Torterra has amazing sweeping ability with Rock Polish set, perhaps its most feared set in UU. It's not the fact that it's a bad pokemon, but it doesn't have the best stats to use them. Grass/Ground is also not the best typing, being 4x weak to ice, as well as bug, poison, fire, and fire. If there were to be a new Grass/Ground pokemon, it could make OU easily if it had around 80-90 base speed, access to Rock Polish, and a decent enough attack stat. So no, Torterra doesn't suck, it just doesn't have the right stats in the right places to be as effective as it could be.
If all the Water/Ground types all had a third-stage evolution, they'd all have something different to flaunt. Whiscash has Dragon Dance (somehow, lol), Gastrodon has Sticky Hold and Recover, Quagsire has Water Absorb and Recover, etc. Their differences come out to more than that, but they'd stand out even more with extra evolutions. We'd still have Swampert for all our balanced-style needs.
You do know what the word dire means, right?
What do you expect from a community of Pokemon fans, something good? It was kinda expected to happened regardless who's doing it.
19 Pokemon out of 497 doesn't seem like a lot.
His main problem isn't his speed, he reaches 422 after a single Rock Polish. His main problem is the lack of a Fire or Ice attack to threaten other Grass-types, as well as floating steels (Skarmory and Bronzong). On top of that, he suffers like most other physical sweepers from Intimidate. This allows stuff like Gyarados and Salamence to switch in and survive Stone Edge, then OHKO with Fire Blast/Draco Meteor or Ice Fang, or switch out and lower its attack even further. A physical Hidden Power (not based on consuming berries; Natural Gift) would help with the former problem. Earthquake / Physical Fire or Ice / Stone Edge or Wood Hammer / Rock Polish would be decent, nothing OU material though.
Zen Headbutt is a possibility, but that just helps Torterra deal with one of the many threats that wall it. Leafeon and Tangrowth can still take its hits all day, so something along the lines of X-Scissor or Poison Jab could help in combating these threats as well. On a RP set though, you would only be able to use 1 of these moves, as the other 2 slots would need to be dedicated to his STAB attacks.
EDIT: Actually I was even one short, apparently it's 29 with Levitate :/ http://pokemondb.net/ability
And the main problem with Torterra is he's just a bit too weak after a RP to sweep, and doesn't have enough coverage.
I would like to see Swampert counter Kyogre. Next to Ludicolo and Defensive Latias, its the 3nd best Kyogre counter in the game
I think you are referring to Quagsire, who has Water Absorb to easily take Kyogre's STAB.
the days we dream about torterra not being a starter and having mold breaker instead of overgrow. then he could go and run X-scissor(lol how he would use that anyway?) for leafeon and tangrowth while EQ ohko weezing.
I think you mean 3rd. 3nd means three times in Japanese iirc.
I'm sure he was thinking of Quagsire, since it absorbs water and is immune to Thunder, and can recover off Ice Beams.
I'm sure he was too it just got me interested since I know Swampert has great bulk on the special side too so I wanted to run the calcs.
Some restraint...maybe, but you most likely go overboard with something just like anyone else who tries to create Fakemon. To be fair on your part, most tend to design their Fakemon for show and don't even know it's possible for one to actually use them.
29 out of 497 Pokemon, that make up what 17.13% of all existing Pokemon in the world. A tiny piece of the Pokemon pie, but most of the OU and Uber Pokemon tend to carry this Levitate so I can see where you're coming from.
That's actually only 5.8%, I don't know where you got 17% from.
My math isn't perfect but something tells me that 29 out of 497 is far off from 17.13%. Its not even 10%...
EDIT: Ninjask'd.
Just a note, it's actually 5.8% (app. 1/17) of pokemon (note that these are not all FE pokemon) that have levitate, not 17%
Edit: I'm really effing slow... >_<
Oh and a theoretical ghost/steel poke would be already nerfed because steel and ghost are terrible stabs... well ghost isn't so much bad as it is weak... 80BP max for everything but giratina (who doesn't use shadow force outside of the VGC, as far as I know) is very meh
My mistake. I think I divided the numbers in the wrong way as I divided 497 from 29 when I should have divided 29 from 497 silly me.
Anyway...is the footage from Pokemon Sunday up yet. I want to see the battle selection.
Dividing 29 from 497 give me the ~17% or 17 & 4/29
Well you should probably work on your math skills :P. Anyways, it's too bad Pokemon Sunday didn't show any new pokemon, was really looking forward to something!
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