Soul Silver Wi-Fi Team

This team was created at the beginning of the D/P era (save for scizor, which was later updated with bullet punch), however, i am now forced to play this team in Ubers. I need advice on this team in wifi play, where I still use this team with a high success rate, but i believe some aspects of it can be changed. Note that all theses pokemon are breeded, and thus do not have perfect/controllable IVs to abuse hidden power.

Overview:
-Lucario
-Salamence
-Jolteon
-Garchomp
-Registeel
-Scizor

In-depth:

-Lucario @ sword dance
252 spe 252 atk 4 hp (adamant)
-close combat
-bullet punch
-Ice punch
-Sword dance

Lucario was the ideal anti-lead that came to mind when i first started playing competitively, managing to kill almost every common lead in the metagame as well as most other anti-leads. Sword dance can be used while the opponent sets up SR, and close combat / ice punch are followed as the opponent taunts lucario the next turn. The main reason why i chose bullet punch over extreme speed was because of ghost types, namely gengar, that would switch into a close combat and easily destroy lucario with focus blast. Lucario usually stays in until it dies, but in cases of infernape or Azelf (both are not that common anymore due to a mass increase in Aerodactyl and Fortress leads), he will switch into garchomp, who can't easily be OHKoed, will hit hard with a choice scarfed dragon claw ( outrage is for saved later when stealth rock wears the opponent down).

-Registeel @ lum berry
252 sp.def 152 def 104 hp (relaxed)
-explosion
-stealth rock
-iron head
-thunder wave

Registeel was the next pokemon that came to mind. With base 150 defense and special defense, he could easily switch into any attack early in the metagame without getting K.O.ed, and manage atleast a stealth rock. Registeel would come in upon lucario's death and thunder wave to cripple a pokemon, and then stealth rock on the switch. Explosion would be saved for later as registeel would switch out after preforming its duties. However, a taunt that comes in really fast often gives registeel alot of trouble. But fortunately, taunters are usually used in the lead metagame, and the opponent's taunters would most likely be K.O.ed by lucario when registeel comes in.

-Garchomp @ choice scarf
252 spe 252 atk 4 hp (Jolly)
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Dragon Claw

Garchomp and Jolteon are the true offensive core of this team. Garchomp was the first thing that came to mind when i needed a pokemon to cover for lucario if the opponent's lead was an infernape or other pokemon giving lucario trouble. Garchomp hits hard with high speed + choice scarf while Jolteon covers with special attacks. Garchomp, unlike jolteon, is not frail, and can take a few hits before going down, even with residual damage from spikes and stealth rock. Garchomp is used as a clean-up sweeper, as mentioned above, and outrage is saved for the late game sweeping while dragon claw is used to often take out the opponent's lead if they are giving lucario any trouble. I realize that Garchomp is Uber according to shoddy battle forums, but wifi battles aren't controlled by smogon, so i still use Garchomp as OU.

-Jolteon @ left overs
252 spe 252 sp.A 4 hp (naive)
-Thunder bolt
-Shadow ball
-Substitute
-Baton pass

I know that a jolteon should be timid nature, but power breeding doesnt seem to work with Eevees for some reason, so naive was the best i could get. Anyways, Jolteon is a sub-passer that has left overs to ensure longlevity throughout the game. Sub-passing usually doesnt work, but makes jolteon an excellent scout for the opponent's team as they usually switch into a priority user when they see a jolteon (for some reason -_-, maybe its because i like to switch into skarmories and gyaradoeses). Jolteon uses sub on the switch, and depending on the opponent's pokemon, switches into salamence or Garchomp, as both can benefit from sweeping behind a Sub. I originally used thunder wave instead of shadow ball, but it proved rather ineffective as everyone was expecting a thunder wave from jolteon, so shadow ball was used instead.

-Salamence @ left overs
252 spe 216 atk 40 sp.A (naive)
-Dragon dance
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Flamethrower

Salamence is the ultimate offensive pokemon on my team. However, it does not serve as the core of the team, but is actually used to cause major dents in the opponent's team, as salamence can always net me a kill every game, which is often a pokemon that could potentially counter my jolteon (scizor and blissey for example). Asides from a kill, this will often also injure a bunch of pokemon in the process due to stealth rock damage. I realize that salamence is considered Uber by Smogon, but i still believe that he is OU.

-Scizor @ choice band
252 spe 252 atk 4 hp
-Bullet punch
-SUper power
-Pursuit
-Bug bite

By now you have probably realized that I am a speed maniac (save for registeel). Scizor has maxed out speed because I'm constantly paranoid about Boah T-tars with flamethrower and maxed out speed. Altough most people use tyrranitar early in the metagame to set up weather, i do realize that some people will hide their tyrranitars until my lucario has died. Because bullet punch will not kill tyrranitar with left overs and invested defense, i have often seen tyrranitars switch into my scizor, and outspeed it, as Choice band scizor doesnt often invest in speed.

Well, this is my team, and i would like some advice on it to help me improve my game. Please remember that this is my wifi team, so please no reference to the shoddy battle metagame :DDD.
 
Ok, first off, you have the wrong Lucario Lead set. Try this:
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Lucario @ Focus Sash
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk /252 Spe
Adamant
-Close Combat
-ExtremeSpeed
-Payback
-Ice Punch / Counter / Magic Coat

^This shouldn't be too hard to get for you. Same EV's and Nature.

Teach Registeel Ice Punch over Iron Head. It'll hit Rayquaza/Salamence/ Etc. harder. Also, give him Leftovers, Registeel doesn't particularly care about status that much.

You might want to teach Jolteon Thunder, as Kyogre is never common enough.

Give Salamence Life Orb. Leftovers isn't doing much for him at all.

Your Scizor set has the wrong EVs. Max Speed lets you outrun nothing important. Try 200 HP/ 56 Attack / 252 Sp.Def with an Adamant Nature. Also, give him U-Turn > Bug Bite.


Good luck.
 
Thanks, but i still prefer bug bite over U-turn. I know that bug bite will do more damage because of technician, while not providing a useful side effect, but i dont find my self needing to u-turn very often.

Also, left overs is better for salamence than life orb IMO as i switch salamence ALOT.
ANyways, my scizor is level 100 now, but i can stil alter its stats via berries, so the new set will be:

Scizor @ choice band
252 atk 50 spe 100 sp.def 100 sp.def
-bug bite ( over u-turn)
-bullet punch
-super powa
-pursuit

And as for the lucario, I don't think that the set you advised will be so helpful...
 
Thanks, but i still prefer bug bite over U-turn. I know that bug bite will do more damage because of technician, while not providing a useful side effect, but i dont find my self needing to u-turn very often.

Also, left overs is better for salamence than life orb IMO as i switch salamence ALOT.
ANyways, my scizor is level 100 now, but i can stil alter its stats via berries, so the new set will be:

Scizor @ choice band
252 atk 50 spe 100 sp.def 100 sp.def
-bug bite ( over u-turn)
-bullet punch
-super powa
-pursuit

And as for the lucario, I don't think that the set you advised will be so helpful...
Scizor is too slow to use Bug Bite effectivley, as pretty mch eveyhiny it huts in Ubers with it will be faster than you. Use U-Turn for it's Scouting capabilities(ex. Switch Scizor in on a resisted attack, and U-Turn on their switch-in)

Also, I don't see what you're Lead Lucario set is trying to accomplish. The one I suggested handles Common Uber leads more effectivley (You say Azelf, Infernape, and Aerodactyl are common Ubers lead, what..?)


And since you made this team at the beggining of D/P, I am assuming you did not change it, and when Salamence and Garchomp were banned you decided to use it in Ubers?
 
Ok in general your team is easily swept by rock polish groudon and has huge problems with choice scarf kyogre because nothing can take its water spouts. You also have problems with bulk up dialga. Choice scarf shaymin-s easily takes care of groudon, and can rain on kyogres parade. You'll need a palkia, ludicolo, or something with water absorb to take water spouts. Bulk up dialga is easily beaten by pokemon with taunt, or a phazer like lugia that can whirlwind it out. You mention that you use this team in ou though, which is not going to be excepted around here. Whoever you battle is going to be all over you. Not a mod or anything though just saying.
 
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