OU Team "I laugh at spikes!"

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Hi, this is my first complete team that I have created for competitive pokemon. At first, I was just trying to build my team based on pokemon that I always loved in the games, but apparently they actually suck. So I did some research and testing and this is what I came up with.

My team mostly relies on predicting my opponents moves and switching into a pokemon that isn't affected by it.

Ninjask @ Choice Band
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 102 HP/252 Atk/156 Spe
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- U-turn
- X-Scissor
- Metal Claw

An ordinary annoying lead baton pass Ninjask? Nope! I decided to use Ninjasks decent 90 base attack to throw people off in the beginning. 156 speed with a neutral speed nature outspeeds +speed Aerodactyl leads. All leads can be handled properly with the addition of U-turn.
Machamp can be dealt with by Aerial Acing it to death.
Aerodactyl is 2HKOed by Metal Claw, and most people don't expect the attack so they Taunt or Stealth Rock.
Azelf is put down with my STAB X-Scissor.
And any bulky threatening leads that won't go down with an attack I just U-Turn to something that can take it down.

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Electivire @ Life Orb
Ability: Motor Drive
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Cross Chop
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake

Electivire is a good switch in when I am expecting an electric attack, as it can potentially sweep. With the Motor Drive speed boost it uses the coverage in its attacks to hit for super effective damage. At first sign of a scarfed ground attack I switch into almost any of my other pokemon that aren't affected by ground attacks.
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Gengar (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt

This Gengar is a good option to switch in on Earthquakes from DDGyaras, and fighting attacks including other Gengar's Focus Blasts. With my type coverage and speed with Choice Scarf, I can take out lots of threats.
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Gyarados @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Gyarados is a good switch in to ground attacks since I can Dragon Dance on the predicted switch out and either attempt a sweep or switch to Electivire for a Motor Drive boost. Even Gyara's resisted attacks do a lot of damage.
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Bronzong @ Macho Brace
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/86 Atk/80 Def/92 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Trick
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Explosion

Bronzong is good to play with fast pokemon with Gyro Ball, or lure the fire attack for my Heatran. Bronzong can also take out annoying threats to my team with Explosion, or just make them less of a threat with trick.
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Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 Spd/252 SAtk/4 SDef
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Explosion
- Sleep Talk (Edit: Now Dragon Pulse)

Heatran's Flash Fire makes it a good pokemon to have when the opponent doesn't know I have it, as I can take a fire attack, then either Earth Power or Fire Blast on the possible switch. Heatran also has a random Sleep Talk to throw enemy Spore/Sleep Powder users off. Heatran also serves to potentially sweep after a Flash Fire boost.

Edit: Thanks ForTheSwarm for letting me know that Sleep Talk = no. Will use Dragon Pulse for more coverage.
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Thanks :D
 
Sleep Talk on Heatran is a bad choice. First, he needs to be asleep for it to have any use. Second, he could accidentally explode at the wrong time. Finally, according to Smogon, "If the holder of a Choice item uses Sleep Talk, it will select a random move for the first turn, and receive the boost as usual, but all subsequent uses of Sleep Talk or the move chosen by Sleep Talk will fail until the holder switches out."

You should probably change Sleep Talk for another coverage move (HP grass for swampert and other waters, hp electric for gyarados, or dragon pulse for kingdra/dragonite/flygon).
 
A Ninjask anti-lead? Looks good on paper, but have you tried it out? From the way you talking about it, it looks like you havn't used it yet. You're also planning on bringing it in later to fight, looking at how you have U-turn. Be wary, because Ninjask has a nasty 4x weakness to stealth rock.

So, Heatran is your SubPunching Breloom/Roserade counter...but there's a 3/4 chance of you randomly picking something your don't want with Sleep Talk. If your Ninjask could pass Agility or Substitute,(best bet is substitute, since it protects from status) you could solve this problem.
 
avroillusion said:
A Ninjask anti-lead? Looks good on paper, but have you tried it out? From the way you talking about it, it looks like you havn't used it yet. You're also planning on bringing it in later to fight, looking at how you have U-turn. Be wary, because Ninjask has a nasty 4x weakness to stealth rock.

So, Heatran is your SubPunching Breloom/Roserade counter...but there's a 3/4 chance of you randomly picking something your don't want with Sleep Talk. If your Ninjask could pass Agility or Substitute,(best bet is substitute, since it protects from status) you could solve this problem.
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I have tried Ninjask and it does work fairly well. Normally after I U-turn, I bring it in at the soonest possible convenience so that SR usually hasn't been set up yet, but even if it has my Ninjask can still do some damage with its 50% left since it isn't really built to take a hit anyway.

For the Heatran problem, I think I'll be using it differently now, replacing Sleep Talk with Dragon Pulse. Thanks for the input :)
 
First off Electirive is outclassed by Specs Jolteon. The set is
Jolteon @ Choice Specs
Volt Asborb
Ev's 252 Speed 252 SpA 4 SpD
T-Bolt
HP Grass
Shadow Ball
Baton Pass

Also Jask sucks in general Metal Claw on a CB set is bad. Try Machamp
Machamp @ Lum Berry
No Gaurd
EV's 240 HP, 248 Att, 16 SpD, 4 Spe
Dymanic Punch
Payback
Bullet Punch
Ice Punch
 
Ian15 said:
First off Electirive is outclassed by Specs Jolteon. The set is
Jolteon @ Choice Specs
Volt Asborb
Ev's 252 Speed 252 SpA 4 SpD
T-Bolt
HP Grass
Shadow Ball
Baton Pass

Also Jask sucks in general Metal Claw on a CB set is bad. Try Machamp
Machamp @ Lum Berry
No Gaurd
EV's 240 HP, 248 Att, 16 SpD, 4 Spe
Dymanic Punch
Payback
Bullet Punch
Ice Punch
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Except for the key difference that electivire is PHYSICAL, jolteon is SPECIAL. He already has a heatran.

Also, machamp is rather common as a lead. I kind of like the novelty of the surprise factor from jask.

Looks pretty decent to me.
 
no. that ninjask is really terrible, even with a choice band it will be lucky to break sashes, the the next time you switch in it will 50% just by SR. Also nobody (smart) is going to taunt you, the sub set is more popular, if you taunt a sub that means a free swords dance, nobody smart would do that.

Electivire sucks in general, gysrados is the only lightning rod in the team.

gengar + heatran both scarfed with hp fire ??? what

Bronzong is totally out of place and doesn't seem to achieve anything

Except for the key difference that electivire is PHYSICAL, jolteon is SPECIAL. He already has a heatran.
 And gyarados is going to be the only safe switch in for elevtivire who is PHYSICAL, make sense please.

Also, machamp is rather common as a lead. I kind of like the novelty of the surprise factor from jask.

common because it works, ninjask with never work even with suprise. Ninjask can't take a hit from anything and it can't hit hard even with choice band. The set has 1 move, u-turn and i'll say it again have fun getting 2hko'ed by stealth rock. If you want suprise try a guts machamp, it actually can work.

No entry hazards on the team at all
 
eXeggutoraped said:
no. that ninjask is really terrible, even with a choice band it will be lucky to break sashes, the the next time you switch in it will 50% just by SR. Also nobody (smart) is going to taunt you, the sub set is more popular, if you taunt a sub that means a free swords dance, nobody smart would do that.

Electivire sucks in general, gysrados is the only lightning rod in the team.

gengar + heatran both scarfed with hp fire ??? what

Bronzong is totally out of place and doesn't seem to achieve anything

Except for the key difference that electivire is PHYSICAL, jolteon is SPECIAL. He already has a heatran.
 And gyarados is going to be the only safe switch in for elevtivire who is PHYSICAL, make sense please.

Also, machamp is rather common as a lead. I kind of like the novelty of the surprise factor from jask.

common because it works, ninjask with never work even with suprise. Ninjask can't take a hit from anything and it can't hit hard even with choice band. The set has 1 move, u-turn and i'll say it again have fun getting 2hko'ed by stealth rock. If you want suprise try a guts machamp, it actually can work.

No entry hazards on the team at all
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Taunt works through a substitute and 90 attack is decent at best, but not as bad as you are making it out to be.

Other than that pretty much agree with everything you say.
 
And if you ask me, Gyarados is the sole lightningrod on the team because it would really be asking for a offensive Suicune sweep if you ran another electric-weak pokemon. Like the lead, really lacks base power though.
 
Hello,

Ninjask with Choice band is like a Set-Up fodder once they know your banded. like Metagross comes in, agility and starts sweeping. Machamp just sucks, many people now bring those god damn counters, use Dragonite or Endeavor Leadape, that does much more better than Ninjask.

Hah, Electivire = Suckish Attacker ever. He barely does any damage on his own, Jolteon Elecivire please. Jolteon manages to kill Skarmory, which, walls both Gyarados and Electivire. Have you ever thought about using Hp Grass on Heatran? because otherwise its walled by Swampert, and non of your team really counter's Swampert. So, Hp Grass > Dragon Pulse. Dragon Pulse is only for Dragon's, and no use either.

On Gengar, Hp Ice > Hp Fire, Hp fire is only for Scizor, and Heatran counters Scizor pretty well. Hp Ice Hits Dragons and also Flygon and Dragonite. So Hp Ice is much more preferred than Hp Fire. Scizors going to kill you with Bullet Punch anyways. Forrestress > Bronzong. You need a rapid spinner for your team, or else Gyarados going to take 25% from his health each time he switches in. Also a Spiker and SR, which benefits your team greatly.

Good Luck
 
That Ninjask gets owned by every common lead, and this INCLUDES Machamp as your Aerial Ace will deal only 80.3% - 94.5% to the standard lead set which means it can survive and OHKO you with Ice Punch/ Stone Edge. Please change it and replace it with a lead that CAN set up Stealth Rock. Without SR support you have no chance of sweeping someone with a Gyara-Vire combo.

I don't see the point in running Choice Scarf on two pokés: Gengar is the revenge killer, what does that CS Heatran accomplish? Also two Scarfed pokés =
a damn lot of switches and since you lack Rapid Spin support you are gonna get raped by entry hazards.

Replace that set with the LO one:

Heatran @ Life Orb
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 Hp/252 Sp. Atk/252 Speed
Nature: Timid
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Hp Grass
- Taunt

This set packs a lot of power and actually gives you a chance of sweeping a weakened team with Electivire. Fire Blast and Earth Power are the solid STAB and coverage move, Hp Grass is for Water Types (Swampert in particular) and Taunt ruins stall.

Good Luck.
 
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