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You know what would be funny...if these EVO's realy are fake and TrollFreak slaps the starters with uglyer ones.

Then people would regret these.... mark my words.
 
The evos don't just look fake.

They are fake for me. Different designs from original, and Fire/Fighting Garbage.

Grass = Milotic
Water = Dialga

There aren't much copy in Gamefreak. There's few I can name.

Plusle/Minun and Pichu
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Can't name more...

Well maybe Victini and Combusken, if you know what I mean...
 
it was me who pointed out the tails -__-

He was talking about his picture posted about the supposed Tsutarja evolution's tail.

Which, while on that subject, is the only solid proof we have that these evolutions are indeed fake. Yes, the beta art can differ in relation to the final product, but the one who made the picture accidentally left part of the beta artwork on it for the final product. This was an error done by an amateur...whatever you want to call it. Troll? Either way, the "sprite" of the picture (Which looks completely identical to the picture) was first seen in a picture of the D/P evolution screen, which is very different than the new evolution screen for B/W.

Without a doubt, the Tsutarja evolution is fake, and with it, the rest of the pictures.
 
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Bulbapedia stepped in during a discussion on /vp/ and made its official stance more clear



Also, some more gifs

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^Uhm WTF is that? looks like Quagsire went on vacation to the disney Atlantis attraction...
 
^Uhm WTF is that? looks like Quagsire went on vacation to the disney Atlantis attraction...

That doesn't even look like Ken Sugimori's art style. For that reason I'm calling fake on that, and everything else, until I get B/W and find this stuff for myself.
 
That blue thing is tentaquil, an internet meme, plastered on a similar background the starters are on by someone who wanted to prove a point.
oh ok I see now Lol. wow people are really getting into this. Its making me want to see the final outcome after all. just curious to see what would serebii say if they turned out fake >_>
 
Serebii has an update up as confirmed.
No Word from PS on them though >:)
We might still have hope!
Although I do like the final of Miju and Smugleaf. Second form of Wotter is ok though...
 
I think we're all finally in the right state of mind to discuss how 9/11 was caused by reptilian Americans...

Some of this speculation is ludicrous. Seriously, the GIF with the grass starters eye? His pupil is there for artistic reasons. Try really hard and you too can drastically alter the position of your pupil in relation to the centre of your face.

If they're fake then they're great fakes, and everyone will get used to them anyway.
Yes, but you can't alter the position of your pupil in relation to the centre of your iris, which was the point he was making.
 
Everything that Crashic posted pretty much cemented, for me, that those are fake. Quite glad apart from Tsutaja3, I really liked it.

Not to mention that in the starters, we have two bipedals and one quadrupedal. The quadrupedal evolves into a bipedal; while odd, we've seen this with quilava and typhlosion, so it's not unheard of. However, can anyone name a pokemon that goes from bipedal to nopedal (hurr) or from bipedal to quadrupedal? It's just... wierd.
 
Everything that Crashic posted pretty much cemented, for me, that those are fake. Quite glad apart from Tsutaja3, I really liked it.

Not to mention that in the starters, we have two bipedals and one quadrupedal. The quadrupedal evolves into a bipedal; while odd, we've seen this with quilava and typhlosion, so it's not unheard of. However, can anyone name a pokemon that goes from bipedal to nopedal (hurr) or from bipedal to quadrupedal? It's just... wierd.

Real world snakes were quadripedal at first, but somehow they eveolved in a way they lost their legs. Some species still have these tini tiny paws attached to their skins, which are used in Reproduction Rituals. So yeah, i guess it's possible, Tsutarja's limbs also appear very weak.

That being said, i think they are fake, Miju 3 is atoo much of a leap and Pokabu3 just looks retarded.
 
I don't get why people actually want this to be fake, just so Serebii gets screwed. Can't people stop with the dumb "Serebii is a dumb brit! PokeJungle/PokeBeach/Pokewhatever are way better" comments, because I'm sure everyone who says that still goes to SPP. It's thanks to this dumb rivalry that we don't have as many great Pokemon websites as we could've.
 
I don't get why people actually want this to be fake, just so Serebii gets screwed. Can't people stop with the dumb "Serebii is a dumb brit! PokeJungle/PokeBeach/Pokewhatever are way better" comments, because I'm sure everyone who says that still goes to SPP. It's thanks to this dumb rivalry that we don't have as many great Pokemon websites as we could've.

It isn't that. Serebii will have an insane amount of backlash when it is revealed that these are fake, but we want them to be fake because they're disgusting.
 
It isn't that. Serebii will have an insane amount of backlash when it is revealed that these are fake, but we want them to be fake because they're disgusting.
I have a feeling that some of them want the starter evos to be fake, not only because they're ugly, but because Serebii will get immense backlash.
 
I don't get why people actually want this to be fake, just so Serebii gets screwed. Can't people stop with the dumb "Serebii is a dumb brit! PokeJungle/PokeBeach/Pokewhatever are way better" comments, because I'm sure everyone who says that still goes to SPP. It's thanks to this dumb rivalry that we don't have as many great Pokemon websites as we could've.
I want them to be fake because I really don't like them. I couldn't care less if Serebii gets screwed or not. It's not like he's gonna retire from the internet if he has this wrong. Also, I don't think I've seen anyone in this thread saying one site is better than another, or calling Serebii a dumb Brit.

EDIT: Ninja'd.
 
I want them to be fake because I really don't like them. I couldn't care less if Serebii gets screwed or not. It's not like he's gonna retire from the internet if he has this wrong. Also, I don't think I've seen anyone in this thread saying one site is better than another, or calling Serebii a dumb Brit.
First, there have been a few comments about which site is better. Second, I know nobody called Serebii a "dumb brit", I was exaggerating on purpose.
 
Since there's nothing else to speculate, people have to do it with the starter evos. Fake or not.. I don't care. But we'll have to wait one more week to end this.

I want news. Now.
 
I don't get why people actually want this to be fake, just so Serebii gets screwed. Can't people stop with the dumb "Serebii is a dumb brit! PokeJungle/PokeBeach/Pokewhatever are way better" comments, because I'm sure everyone who says that still goes to SPP. It's thanks to this dumb rivalry that we don't have as many great Pokemon websites as we could've.

People want Serebii screwed because he's renound for being an arrogant, egotistical douche who claims to always have 100% correct information and the damage control if they're fake will be hillarious. Serebii is also the one responsible for the dumb rivalry between news sites because he's the only one who actually takes it seriously, going on every board to defend himself and cause shitstorms.
 
However, can anyone name a pokemon that goes from bipedal to nopedal (hurr) or from bipedal to quadrupedal? It's just... wierd.
First off, why would it be so weird to go from bi to quad? What makes going from quad to bi so much more believable? Secondly, I think Marshtomp to Swampert kind of counts. Even though Swampert can go both ways (like I've already said several times), most of his artwork shows him on all fours, just like most of Marshtomp shows him mostly on his hind legs.

As for bipedal to nopedal, no, there aren't any OK, as coronis points out, Snorunt to Glalie goes from bipedal to nopedal. But there are so many other wicked evolutions like Dragonair to Dragonite, Scyther to Scizor, Whismur to Loudred, Trapinch to Vibrava, Slakoth to Vigoroth, and Snorunt to Froslass, that it's absurd to say that the ones you mentioned are "weird". There are a LOT of weird evolutions.
 
Snorunt.

Atm, honestly I'm far more interested in the three monkeys for the first gym than the (FAKE!!!)starter evos. I wonder what other twists other gyms could have, adn what will happen with the Elite Four.
 
2. Serebii mentioned to RexRacer (the EiC of Bulbanews) that he had a number of the in-game sprites himself, however that Melkor had all the sprites. We've yet to see the sprites ourselves, so we can't confirm or deny if these are legit based on the info we have.

See, this. This is what is weird. How... why in the world do they just have SPRITES? Not official art, not screenshots, not images, SPRITES? By themselves? That's just very very strange. Man I wish we could just get to the bottom of this.

Also, I don't see why people are even making a big deal about quadrupedal/bipedal/whatever anyway. No starter has never lost all of their limbs, so what? No starter has even been a snake either. No starter has ever become quadrupedal? So what? There's a first time for everything, it makes Mijumaru's line more distinct from other starters if it's true.
 
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