Archeops

Archaeos @ Expert Belt
252 attack/252 speed/4 sp. attack
Claw Sharpen
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Dragon Pulse/Focus Blast

Archaeos @ Rock Jewel (or some similar consumable item)
252 attack/252 speed/4 sp. attack
Claw Sharpen
Stone Edge
Acrobat
Dragon Pulse/Focus Blast

With a single Claw Sharpen boost to his massive attack, even when Faint-Hearted kicks in he still has a mangeable 105 base attack stat. Plus it makes Stone Edge a reliable, powerful source of STAB. PP is the only downside. Expert Belt is probably the best item to use since Life Orb is a big no for Archaeos, and the EdgeQuake combo will score plenty of super effective hits. Alternatively, swap Earthquake for Acrobat and go itemless (edit: or consumable item'd). 112 special attack is not bad, and it will be his preferred attacking option below 50. Go Dragon Pulse for coverage/enemy dragons or Focus Blast (made reliable by Claw Sharpen) for super effective hits. Just be smart about finding the opportunity to boost. You don't want to start your assault handicapped.
 
There's no reason to go itemless when you can use an Elemental Jewel. This way you get to use something while also being able to use Acrobat later.

Granted, we don't know how big the boost is from those things, but it's still sounding like a good idea.
 
What exactly triggers the Elemental Jewels? Also, do we know exactly how much more accurate one Claw Sharpen would make Stone Edge or Focus Blast?
 
backlot said:
What exactly triggers the Elemental Jewels? Also, do we know exactly how much more accurate one Claw Sharpen would make Stone Edge or Focus Blast?
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One Claw Sharpen is a single stage of Accuracy boost, which is 33% of the original accuracy. So Stone Edge would have 100% accuracy, while Focus Blast would have 93% accuracy.
 
Hey Elliot! You gonna add these additional sets and the stuff about Rock Jewel to the OP? Now that we know more I think its worth adding to.
 
One thing that kills it is Priority, and specifically Aqua Jet and Bullet Punch. It has paper defenses, and a Bullet Punch from ANYTHING with a decent attack can put it down to or under 50%, therefore neutering its awesomeness.
 
eaglehawk said:
One thing that kills it is Priority, and specifically Aqua Jet and Bullet Punch. It has paper defenses, and a Bullet Punch from ANYTHING with a decent attack can put it down to or under 50%, therefore neutering its awesomeness.
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Steels are probably going to be not as common, thanks to Shanderaa(and if they are, they go die in the face of the lamp). Mach Punch(Infernape or Breloom) as well as Extreme Speed(Lucario, maybe Arcanine) can also be predicted and get eaten by Shanderaa(I see some neat synergy, if SR is out of the way). And Aqua Jet is not too common in Standard OU unless Daikenki, Basurao, Azumarill or Sharpedo suddenly become super common, which I doubt whole-heartedly. Thst said, Aakeosu would only need to be teamed up with one of the probably most potent Revenge Killers in Gen V to get rid of its Priority problem.
If the metagame is as predictable as I think it to be, at least. lol
 
focus sash/leftovers
+speed-?, 252speed/252spatk/4atk OR 252speed/270spatk/88atk
torment
protect/quick attack
dragon pulse
focus blast/hidden power?

I like it for middle/later game play. (After the spinner did its job :3)
It runs a solid half-support, half-cleaner. The move set is just too good.
...too bad it doesn't get explosion, lol.
 
eaglehawk said:
One thing that kills it is Priority, and specifically Aqua Jet and Bullet Punch. It has paper defenses, and a Bullet Punch from ANYTHING with a decent attack can put it down to or under 50%, therefore neutering its awesomeness.
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That's why I think it would fit well as an attack lead. Start off hitting hard, ridiculously hard. A priority user switching in could take a pretty big blow. Insofar as I know no major priority users resists its two STABs and if they send one in as a vengeance killer you just switch out.
 
I loved this Pokemon from the moment I saw it. Easily one of the best designs of gen. 5 imo. I was hoping it would get Brave Bird and Fire Blast, but I guess Brave Bird isn't the best choice anyway with it's ability :p

I think this could be one of it's best sets.

Archaeos @ Rock Jewel
Jolly: 252 Atk/4 Sp.Atk/252 Spd (maybe some more Sp.Atk instead)
Stone Edge
Acrobat
Focus Blast
Claw Sharpen/Earth Power/Earthquake

Great coverage, claw sharpen + Rock Jewel benefits every one of it's moves and makes a great late game sweeper. Open with a Boosted Stone edge if you bring it out early game. I'm guessing the jewels give a one time 1.5 boost?
 
He's still viable. Not as good, but not down and out. You can play him in the beginning, U-Turn, Stone Edge something, whatever. Then switch to a counter, pick the opponent off, get rid of those rocks if you need to, then clean house. Mixed attacking capabities are still good, granted all of his stats aren't nerfed.

Sand Storm team could help, as Doryuzuu resists a lot of the hits he takes, and Sand Storm/Rocks can help him sweep stuff up. It's irritating when they nerf something that looks so damn cool.
 
Sorry but this guy is horrible for two reason

1. Weakness to stealth rocks puts it at 75%

2. Faint of heart is a sucky ass ability I don't see this doing very much at all from a competitive stand point
 
Frost Nocturne said:
I loved this Pokemon from the moment I saw it. Easily one of the best designs of gen. 5 imo. I was hoping it would get Brave Bird and Fire Blast, but I guess Brave Bird isn't the best choice anyway with it's ability :p

I think this could be one of it's best sets.

Archaeos @ Rock Jewel
Jolly: 252 Atk/4 Sp.Atk/252 Spd (maybe some more Sp.Atk instead)
Stone Edge
Acrobat
Focus Blast
Claw Sharpen/Earth Power/Earthquake

Great coverage, claw sharpen + Rock Jewel benefits every one of it's moves and makes a great late game sweeper. Open with a Boosted Stone edge if you bring it out early game. I'm guessing the jewels give a one time 1.5 boost?
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Almost exactly the set I have above! XD I think that this is his most effective. Claw Sharpen makes Stone Edge and Focus Blast reliable, plus leaves his attack manageable even after the ability kick-in. Rock Jewel will be great, and then you have incredibly boosted Acrobat.

and @ Elliot. Prob this set, one of the ones I posted, perhaps some of the support options people put up. Whatever you think works!
 
Claw Sharpen seems to be making a lot of things better - watch out for those no-miss Meteor Mashes from Metagross in the near future, among others. :S
 
Crimson assassin said:
Sorry but this guy is horrible for two reason

1. Weakness to stealth rocks puts it at 75%

2. Faint of heart is a sucky ass ability I don't see this doing very much at all from a competitive stand point
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1. True. Stealth Rock is going to have to be accounted for and worked around.

2. Suckish ability, yes. But perfectly manageable if you play smart. He will not be "horrible"

Archaeos has a lot of really specifically useful tools. Claw Sharpen is a great asset for accuracy and keeping his attack respectable. His physical and special movepools get all the right things they need to compliment eachother perfectly on coverage. And he has access to itemless Acrobat, the strongest no-drawbacks Flying move available, which works in perfect synergy with a consumable boosting item like the Elemental Jewels. Most pokes can't afford Acrobat because they need some kind of item, but with his stats and Claw Sharpen he is fine without one after it's consumed.

Overall, he really has to play smart and use specifically crafty strategies to be successful, but he will no doubt be a monster when doing so. I can only imagine the horror if he didn't have Faint Hearted to check him!
 
Whooo! If Serebii is right my favourite 5th gen mon just got so much better! How viable is a Petaya Berry full Special set?

EDIT: @below: They were intending to balance an insanly stat-driven monster. If its ability were different it would be too overpowered.
 
sexyrandal105 said:
Wait, what the heck were they thinking? I thought abilities were supposed to help...
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Slaking and Regigigas are perfect examples of when an ability TRULY ruins someone, as Thor and Spenstar pointed out. Archaeos is nowhere near as bad off, be thankful. The originally-thought total stat cut woulda come close, but instead simply adds a slight check to his raw power and an interesting twist to his playstyle. I like how he is shaping up.
Ability makes sense kinda biologically. Raptors (and the prehistoric birds related to them [by all accounts the same thing]) are thought to have been all or nothing attackers, built for speed and power, but fragile. Probably not too good at keeping up the assault when injured.
All I know is getting Achen as a fossil is gonna be easy mode if you play him smart. 112 base attack by like the 3rd gym? Yikes.
 
Wind Kutone said:
HOLY FLIM FLAM BBQSAUCE THIS THING LEARNS HEADSMASH! *Head butts computer screen and dies*
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Faint-hearted checks the fearsome-ness of this as well because the recoil will bring it into nerf range.
But I'm glad to learn that the quite impressive Speed and SpA remain untouched.
 
Why a beast as Ononokusu has Rivalry, Encourage and Tension (+ dragon dance obviously) to increase its monstrous power (147 base attack), while Archaeos has this ridiculous ability?

Thanks Game Freak...u have ruined the coolest pokemon of this generation.
 
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