4th Gen OU team - Stealth Blade

Hi there! This is my first post as well as my first RMT, that doesn't mean I'm a newb though, behold the awesomeness of Stealth Blade!
The Team:
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999999999 BC (Aerodactyl) (M) @ Focus Sash Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake


We ALL (seriously, ALL) know Lead Aerodactyl, I know him as the best lead for an offensive team like mine, it taunts, preventing boosts, cripples and entry hazards, it lays Stealth Rock, and has EarthEdge (right?) combo, this fits especially for my team, so that sweepers would have easy time against the opponents pokemon, and for Swampert's Roar.
Also, focus sash almost ensures that you will get down SR, so yeah, I've been having success with this guy.


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Blue Blade (Gallade) (M) @ Lum Berry Trait: Steadfast
EVs: 16 HP / 252 Atk / 40 Def / 200 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Shadow Sneak
- Hypnosis


Gallade, the almost forgotten BL sweeper, can wreck havoc to anyone who defies him, his EV spread makes him resist a few physical attacks with low health.
Swords Dance is made MUCH easier with lum berry, where the opponent will think "Oh.. A sweeper! Let's Burn/Parahax/Sleep it!" and you get one attack boost, and then respond with the unrisisted Ghost/Fighting Combo.
Hypnosis is very helpful, sure it misses, but that doesn't change much against walls, cause they will be trying to status it, and they lose a turn, while you get God knows how much free turns to polish your attack.


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PwnPert (Swampert) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 148 HP / 160 Atk / 100 Def / 100 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Avalanche
- Earthquake
- Roar
- Stone Edge


Swampert's idea is basic, but very effective, the given EVs grant him much needed attack and defensive stats, along with roar to damage with SRs laid down, his attacks are basically to take down anything it can wreck, or otherwise switch out or roar them away.


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Q8 FTW (Zapdos) @ Life Orb
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature
- Thunder
- Heat Wave
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Roost
Zapdos Sweeper, Pretty simple, Thunder sure misses, but I don't find that crippling, Heat wave for steel types SOMETIMES, cause Thunder mostly takes care of everything except grass and ground.
HP Ice is pretty obvious, Flygons. And other stuff.


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LeafBarret (Shaymin) @ Leftovers Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 76 SAtk / 180 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Seed Flare
- Earth Power
- Leech Seed
- Protect


Best. Thing. Ever.
It kills and does awesome stuff, though it has trouble with Celebi, but celebi is easily taken care of by Gallade.
Thanks for suggesting Shaymin, Faladran

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Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs Trait: Adaptability
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Tri Attack
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam
Choice Sweeper, I like Porygon-Z's Ability to sweep easily, Tri Attack kills A LOT of things in one shot, and 2HKOs others, it can also 2HKO Heatran with SR laid down.
Other attacks for coverage, basically.

Old Team:
The Team:
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999999999 BC (Aerodactyl) (M) @ Focus Sash Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake


We ALL (seriously, ALL) know Lead Aerodactyl, I know him as the best lead for an offensive team like mine, it taunts, preventing boosts, cripples and entry hazards, it lays Stealth Rock, and has EarthEdge (right?) combo, this fits especially for my team, so that sweepers would have easy time against the opponents pokemon, and for Swampert's Roar.
Also, focus sash almost ensures that you will get down SR, so yeah, I've been having success with this guy.


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Blue Blade (Gallade) (M) @ Lum Berry Trait: Steadfast
EVs: 16 HP / 252 Atk / 40 Def / 200 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Shadow Sneak
- Ice Punch


Gallade, the almost forgotten BL sweeper, can wreck havoc to anyone who defies him, his EV spread makes him resist a few physical attacks with low health, so that he can use Shadow Sneak.
Swords Dance is made MUCH easier with lum berry, where the opponent will think "Oh.. A sweeper! Let's Burn/Parahax/Sleep it!" and you get one attack boost, and then respond with the unrisisted Ghost/Fighting Combo, along with Ice Punch for dragons and ground types, even though it's hard to outspeed those guys.


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PwnPert (Swampert) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 148 HP / 160 Atk / 100 Def / 100 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Roar
- Stone Edge


Swampert's idea is basic, but very effective, the given EVs grant him much needed attack and defensive stats, along with roar to damage with SRs laid down, his attacks are basically to take down anything it can wreck, or otherwise switch out or roar them away.


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Q8 FTW (Zapdos*) @ Shell Bell*
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest* Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Heat Wave
- Hidden Power [Grass]*
- Roost
Zapdos Sweeper, Pretty simple, this guy might get replaced sooner or later, so I do need suggestions for that.
* = things that might get replaced.


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CrmsnDrgn (Flygon) (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw*
- U-turn
- Fire Blast


Flygon is my scarf sweeper, hits pretty hard, and takes fire and electric moves for my team, Dragon Claw might get replaced with Outrage, any suggestions on which is better?


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Red Scythe (Scizor) (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Superpower
- Pursuit
Choice Band scizor, Owns a lot of things, and can't take fire moves, which is why Flygon is there for him.
Bullet Punch kills hail teams and other stuff, I won a whole battle just by using it, I think the guy I was battling was stupid enough to use a mono ice team.
U-turn is for getting away while causing residual damage to the opponent, mainly annoying Celebis.
Pursuit is more about prediction than anything else.


This.. Is my team, I've already one 13 battles and only lost 2 with it, so any ratings, suggestions or feedback would be nice :)


Thanks!


~S.Ace
 
Outrage over dragon claw the extra power is needed also i would go with jolly on flygon as max speed lets him outspeed neutral nature +1 base 100s and tie positive nature ones.
 
How does this team deal with Machamp leads? You can take them out, but it'll cost you at least Aerodactyl and probably one other team member to do so. Not exactly a great start.
 
Outrage over dragon claw the extra power is needed also i would go with jolly on flygon as max speed lets him outspeed neutral nature +1 base 100s and tie positive nature ones.

Agreeing.


Also, Shell Bell on Zapdos?
Lefotvers, always.

Replace Shadow Sneak or Ice Punch with Psycho Cut on Gallade.

Your Swampert is kinda weird, maybe Brave and Ice Beam?
 
Outrage over dragon claw the extra power is needed also i would go with jolly on flygon as max speed lets him outspeed neutral nature +1 base 100s and tie positive nature ones.
Nah, I'd rather keep that guy unchanged for now, I just won a few battles with dragon claw which I couldn't win with outrage.

How does this team deal with Machamp leads? You can take them out, but it'll cost you at least Aerodactyl and probably one other team member to do so. Not exactly a great start.
I've dealt with them a LOT, I kill them easily with swampert.
Agreeing.


Also, Shell Bell on Zapdos?
Lefotvers, always.

Replace Shadow Sneak or Ice Punch with Psycho Cut on Gallade.

Your Swampert is kinda weird, maybe Brave and Ice Beam?
Leftovers will be better, but maybe life orb?
No, Gallade Needs those two moves, I can't replace them.
Maybe brave and ice beam is not bad, but 313 attack ice punch is better.

Thanks for the feedback and suggestions!
I currently have 18 wins and 4 losses, so that's great for a start actually.
 
I'd like to second Outrage instead of Dragon Claw but if you can weaken your opponent's pokemon enough not to need the power go with that.

You don't kill Machamp leads as easily as you think. It kills Aero without being touched and then it will land a big hit on one of your mons and confuse it. It has a SE attack for each of your mons except swampert and it can't OHKO Champ so it will be confused and crippled.

Also, since you're not investing in Swampert's speed and all the things ice punch is used against are faster than you, use Avalanche instead of Ice Punch. I wouldn't suggest this on a normal Pert but yours is more of an attacker so it may work better than the common Ice Beam.

For Zapdos I'd suggest Timid nature and leftovers as the item and Toxic instead of Heat Wave (because steel-types aren't a problem for you).

I hope I helped.
 
Hello Ace, thats an interesting team you got there, and its nice to see somebody use a Gallade. Don't use Gallade as a sweeper, use it as an anti lead with Jolly LO, Stone Edge (Zapdos killing for later), Zen Headbutt, CC and Shadow sneak with the standard sweeper built. This is a very good anti lead, checking Infernape, Dragonite, Aero, Azelf, Ambipom, Heatran, and is a very effective Machamp counter. Sack Aero, and replace it with Forretress as you already have Swampert for an SRer (replace SE for SR), and they have good synergy. For Zapdos, replace Shell Bell with LO and btw its not a very good sweeper. Keep HP Grass, as Swampert can screw half of your team. Use Jolly on Flygon, to get a speed tie or outspeed opposing Flygon and I support the decision of changing Dclaw to Outrage, as you are not steel weak, and changing Ice Punch to Avalanche.
 
Thanks for the support guys!
The changes have been as the following:
Zapdos:
Hidden power is now ice, for Flygons mostly.
Shell bell was replaced with Life Orb, if it doesn't work, leftovers should be there.

Gallade:
Ice Punch replaced with Psycho Cut.

Flygon:
Fire Blast replaced with Fire Punch. Might replace it with Stone Edge, though Skarmory is quite annoying now, should I keep Fire Blast?

These are all just tests so I won't update the OP, if you have any other suggestions please feel free to reply here!

EDIT:
You know what? Outrage does seem like a better choice.
 
I also think Gallade would be better off leading the team. A set with Zen Headbutt / Close Combat / Shadow Sneak / Ice Punch with a Jolly nature and 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd performs admirably in the current metagame. Swampert can then run Stealth Rock over Stone Edge on its moveset, which is really one of the main reasons to even use Swampert.

Stall seems really problematic for this team to face. Your complete lack of Water resists is also troubling, so I think a Grass-type would be a good fit on this team. A Leech Seed set with Roserade, Venusaur, or Shaymin would help fix both of the aforementioned problems. The former two have the advantages of soaking up Toxic Spikes and using Sleep Powder, although Shaymin's access to Seed Flare allows it to function as a potent sweeper.

Good luck!
 
Looks pretty good, though I second replacing Ice Punch with Avalanche on 'pert.

Also, if you're happy with dropping heat wave on zapdos, can i suggest trying agility, drop speed to 176 EVs and put some in HP? If you can force a switch with Zapdos it can be pretty formidable at +2 Speed.

Oh, one last thing, Psycho cut on gallade will OHKO machamp if it takes out Aero.

EDIT: I agree with Faladran about using Gallade lead
 
As the writer of the Gallade lead and possibly the only user of it, I have to say that it's the best set it can run in OU. It takes care of a whole ton of leads with no problem, and unlike Machamp, Gallade actually outspeeds crap, so it can function wonderfully midgame.
 
"his EV spread makes him resist a few physical attacks with low health, so that he can use Shadow Sneak."

this just straight confuses me. typing makes for resistances not ev spread? and with weaker physical defense than lucario 16/40 isnt going to do you a whole lot of favors. might as well just put it in speed for other base 80s. also shadow sneak can be used at any health.. because its priority. and to your dismay swampert cannot by any means beat machamp easily. you will lose your aerodactyl and swampert doesnt ohko and you have a good chance of getting 2hkod urself due to confusion and your bad ev spread
 
I also think Gallade would be better off leading the team. A set with Zen Headbutt / Close Combat / Shadow Sneak / Ice Punch with a Jolly nature and 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd performs admirably in the current metagame. Swampert can then run Stealth Rock over Stone Edge on its moveset, which is really one of the main reasons to even use Swampert.

Stall seems really problematic for this team to face. Your complete lack of Water resists is also troubling, so I think a Grass-type would be a good fit on this team. A Leech Seed set with Roserade, Venusaur, or Shaymin would help fix both of the aforementioned problems. The former two have the advantages of soaking up Toxic Spikes and using Sleep Powder, although Shaymin's access to Seed Flare allows it to function as a potent sweeper.

Good luck!
Actually I think Gallade should stay like that for now, it seems useful in my team. I'll explain why later.
About a grass type, so true, I do need one.
Shaymin looks like the best one, Celebi is also good, but I prefer Shaymin.
I'll look at it's moves and see what I should do.
Looks pretty good, though I second replacing Ice Punch with Avalanche on 'pert.

Also, if you're happy with dropping heat wave on zapdos, can i suggest trying agility, drop speed to 176 EVs and put some in HP? If you can force a switch with Zapdos it can be pretty formidable at +2 Speed.

Oh, one last thing, Psycho cut on gallade will OHKO machamp if it takes out Aero.

EDIT: I agree with Faladran about using Gallade lead
Nah, Zapdos needs Heat Wave for Scizor and stuff, but I think he needs HP [Ground] more than anything, for Heatran, because anyone who switchs in Scizor just KNOWS I'll use heat wave, so I surprise him and kill him, if he doesn't switch, then I just take whatever it uses and fire back with Heat Wave.
Psycho Cut won't be on Gallade, you'll see why...

Changed Movesets:

Gallade:
Gallade now has Hypnosis instead of Ice Punch, it works very well especially against walls and other stuff, gets you one free SD. But doesn't work every time though.

Swampert:
Swampert has Avalanche instead of Ice Punch, thanks to who suggested that!

Zapdos:
Zapdos has Thunder instead of Thunderbolt, kills a lot of things easily.
By the way, Thunder doesn't miss that much, and even if it did, it's almost always fine, it also has 30% chance of Parahax so yeah.

Flygon and Scizor:
I'm not sure if I should keep those, I ran a choice specs set for Porygon-Z instead of Scizor and it worked very well.
Maybe I should replace Flygon with Shaymin? Flygon is so predictable and so is Scizor BTW.
Suggestions?

EDIT: I gotta make a new team, but I won't shut down this thread, cause I can just update the OP anyways.
 
I know I just bumped (I think).
Anyways, my team has Machamp Syndrome, I'll study it a bit, but I won't make a new team, my team is the same, I'll update the OP now.
 
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