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Pokémon Minus - Street Pokémon with Mimic Glitch Allowed

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slayton1114 said:
Did you even read the OP? You have to know one of those two moves to use the mimic glitch.
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Yes, and the bidoof set he posted does not need the Mimic glitch.

Still, it's a poor idea. Your team is still going to get wrecked by stuff like Sheer Cold Machamp, plus tons of special attackers now have Aura Sphere, and everything now has Haze, Clear Smog, and Perish Song. You also instantly lose to Tspikes.
 
petrie911 said:
Yes, and the bidoof set he posted does not need the Mimic glitch.

Still, it's a poor idea. Your team is still going to get wrecked by stuff like Sheer Cold Machamp, plus tons of special attackers now have Aura Sphere, and everything now has Haze, Clear Smog, and Perish Song. You also instantly lose to Tspikes.
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Yeah, it's obviously for lulz.

Nonetheless, I have more Bidoofs than Machamp has Sheer Colds if you account for the Bidoof being able to Protect to stall out PP.



For a legit inconsistent team, you'd have something to absorb Tspikes. Aura Sphere isn't that bad if you're using Octillery instead and you grab some Sp. Def boosts.

Also, everything might get Haze/Clear Smog/Perish Song, but no one is actually going to carry those in a metagame where you're eating Sacred Fires and Outrages left and right.
 
petrie911 said:
Yes, and the bidoof set he posted does not need the Mimic glitch.

Still, it's a poor idea. Your team is still going to get wrecked by stuff like Sheer Cold Machamp, plus tons of special attackers now have Aura Sphere, and everything now has Haze, Clear Smog, and Perish Song. You also instantly lose to Tspikes.
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Proof that people are still fucking retarded when it comes to countering Inconsistent.

The one and only way to get rid of Inconsistent 100% of the time is multi-hit moves. I.E., Double Chop or wtf lol cloyster. I feel the former is more suitable.

you do not instantly lose to t-spikes if every pokemon has the ability to rapid spin... just get RS deoxys S or something and win yipee

Conversely, poison Arceus
 
Breludicolo said:
Proof that people are still fucking retarded when it comes to countering Inconsistent.

The one and only way to get rid of Inconsistent 100% of the time is multi-hit moves. I.E., Double Chop or wtf lol cloyster. I feel the former is more suitable.

you do not instantly lose to t-spikes if every pokemon has the ability to rapid spin... just get RS deoxys S or something and win yipee

Conversely, poison Arceus
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In his defense, in the context, we were just talking about a 6x Bidoof joke team.
 
BurningMan said:
Its not, because it doesn't work. Assist can't call Phazing moves.
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Uses a random move from a random Pokémon in user's party, other than the user and eggs. Can pick moves from a fainted Pokémon. Assist cannot select the following attacks:

Assist
Chatter
Copycat
Counter
Covet
Destiny Bond
Detect
Endure
Feint
Focus Punch
Follow Me
Helping Hand
Me First
Metronome
Mimic
Mirror Coat
Mirror Move
Protect
Sketch
Sleep Talk
Snatch
Struggle
Switcheroo
Thief
Trick


Nah.


Proof that people are still fucking retarded when it comes to countering Inconsistent.

The one and only way to get rid of Inconsistent 100% of the time is multi-hit moves. I.E., Double Chop or wtf lol cloyster. I feel the former is more suitable.
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Cloyster used Icicle Spear!

But it missed!

Fuck!
 
We need more Vital Spirit/Insomnia Pokemon!

Going Ape Hog Wild
Primeape @ Life Orb/ Focus Sash/ Salac Berry
Ability: Vital Spirit
Going Ape Hog Wild
Primeape @ Life Orb/ Focus Sash/ Salac Berry
Ability: Vital Spirit
-Belly Drum/ Shell Smash
-Close Combat/ Drain Punch/ Reversal
-Shadow Force/ Crunch
-Extreme Speed/ Mach Punch/

Switch into the sleeping moves that will no doubt be all the Rage in this Meta-game, set up Belly Drum/Shell Break, and let the sweeping begin!

If you're using Shell Smash then a Focus Sash and Reversal are better options; otherwise go with Close Combat/Drain Punch and Life Orb/Salac Berry.
Choose either Shadow Force or Crunch to hit those pesky ghosts; Crunch will provide a reliable no-draw-back attack. Meanwhile Shadow Force not only hits harder, but it might lure in a fast Normal or Steel type, whom you can greet with a Mach Punch next turn.

For priority you can use Extreme Speed, Mach Punch as I mentioned earlier, or Sucker Punch to hit Ghosts immune to E.S. and M.P.

I'll post Butterfly Dance Honchkrow later. (and yes, I'm fully aware that I've already made a hundred Butterfly Dance sets already.)
 
The Other Doug said:
We need more Vital Spirit/Insomnia Pokemon!

Going Ape Hog Wild
Primeape @ Focus Sash/ Life Orb
Ability: Vital Spirit
-Belly Drum
-Close Combat/ Reversal
-Shadow Force/ Crunch
-Extreme Speed/ Mach Punch/

Switch into the sleeping moves that will no doubt be all the Rage in this Meta-game, set up Belly Drum, and let the sweeping begin!

If you're holding a Focus Sash, then Reversal is a better option; otherwise go with Close Combat. Choose either Shadow Force or Crunch to hit those pesky ghosts; Crunch will provide a reliable no-draw-back attack. Meanwhile Shadow Force not only hits harder, but it might lure in a fast Normal or Steel type, whom you can greet with a Mach Punch next turn.
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I hope you realize that Focus Sash doesn't work after you Belly Drum, and you can't Belly Drum after your Focus Sash activates, and either way, you're going to get OHKOed.
 
Inconsistent is mostly broken because of Evasion. Use No Guard Champ and you're on your way:

Machamp@Choice Scarf
Whatever EVs
Moves:
Sheer Cold
Trick
Clear Smog/Haze
High Jump Kick/Filler

Yeah, use CS Sheer Cold for standard coverage, Trick if you feel teh need to rid the scarf (like for an inconsistent user), Clear Smog and Haze both do teh same thing, take out stat boosts, but Clear Smog can deal damage and go through taunt (if an inconsistent abuser uses taunt), while Haze can go through Subs. The Last attack Move's just to attack Sturdy Users.
 
Mr.L said:
Inconsistent is mostly broken because of Evasion. Use No Guard Champ and you're on your way:

Machamp@Choice Scarf
Whatever EVs
Moves:
Sheer Cold
Trick
Clear Smog/Haze
High Jump Kick/Filler

Yeah, use CS Sheer Cold for standard coverage, Trick if you feel teh need to rid the scarf (like for an inconsistent user), Clear Smog and Haze both do teh same thing, take out stat boosts, but Clear Smog can deal damage and go through taunt (if an inconsistent abuser uses taunt), while Haze can go through Subs. The Last attack Move's just to attack Sturdy Users.
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(Protect + Substitute) x 4 = 0PP left on Sheer Cold :/

Also, Toxic is pretty common on Inconsistent users.
 
masterful said:
Why would you use this when you can use Moltres?
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Charizard's faster.

I think Butterfly Dance might be an interesting move on Magnezone. It's Sturdy, so it doesn't have to worry about Sheerchamp, and has very solid physical defense. Even better, it also has an excellent SpA and a usable movepool to abuse the +6 with. I'm thinking something along the lines of

Butterzone@Leftovers/Lum Berry/Balloon
Bold, Sturdy/Magnet Pull (if you want to try and set up on Steels)
252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SpD
Butterfly Dance
Thunderbolt
Magnet Rise/Flash Cannon/Signal Beam
HP Ice

Some setup is required, of course. You might want to toss up Safeguard to protect from Sleep until a reasonable level of speed is reached, and you probably want something to switch into to take Earthquakes. This thing needs 2+ Butterfly Dances to even think about outspeeding a Scarfer, but is strong if it is allowed to get going.
 
Acritter said:
Charizard's faster.

I think Butterfly Dance might be an interesting move on Magnezone. It's Sturdy, so it doesn't have to worry about Sheerchamp, and has very solid physical defense. Even better, it also has an excellent SpA and a usable movepool to abuse the +6 with. I'm thinking something along the lines of

Butterzone@Leftovers/Lum Berry/Balloon
Bold, Sturdy/Magnet Pull (if you want to try and set up on Steels)
252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SpD
Butterfly Dance
Thunderbolt
Magnet Rise/Flash Cannon/Signal Beam
HP Ice

Some setup is required, of course. You might want to toss up Safeguard to protect from Sleep until a reasonable level of speed is reached, and you probably want something to switch into to take Earthquakes. This thing needs 2+ Butterfly Dances to even think about outspeeding a Scarfer, but is strong if it is allowed to get going.
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Since you can alter all 4 moves, you might as well have Ice Beam and Aura Sphere for your coverage moves.
 
Darkamber8828 said:
Cloyster used Icicle Spear!

But it missed!

Fuck!
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You switched out!
Glalie used substitute!
Glalie used protect!
Glalie KOes whatever stall pokemon you're trying to haze it with and then keeps subbing somewhere along this line!
Glalie used substitute!
Glailie used protect!
Glalie used substitute!
Glalie used protect!
Glalie used substitute!
Glailie used protect!
Glalie used substitute!
Glalie used protect!
Glalie used substitute!
Glailie used protect!
Glalie used substitute!
Glalie used protect!
Glalie used substitute!
Glailie used protect!

Glaile has gained 16 stat boosts!
Glalie is now ridiculously op!
Glalie can now sweep your team!

:D

or

You switched out! You switched in (pokemon with double chop)!
Glalie used substitute!
Glalie used protect! You used Double Chop! Glalie gained an evasion boost!
Glalie used substitute! You miss!
Glalie used protect! You used Double Chop!
You use Double Chop! Glalie is in 2HKO range! Glalie used substitute!
Glalie is now weak as fuck!
etc.

Perish song admittedly works but is otherwise useless.

@ Magnezone
..Won't Machamp just HJK it?
 
You still get 2HKO'd. Plus Magma Storm pretty much says STFU to sturdy users, being able to have residual damage finish it off(although machamp's SpA is lol)
 
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