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thx sir.. do you know how to manipulate Id number sir would you mind teaching me?
I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to show you anything other than the general guides for it. I've never done any ID/SID manipulation in Gen 4, so I wouldn't really have any experience with it.
 
Okay I'm going to RNG a non-shiny Timid Zapdos (Soul Silver Version) with HP Ice.
I'm using the Capture tab on RNG's Time finder. But I'm not getting results. Just hours of searching billions of seeds, and nothing. I've tried making the frames goto 1000 which takes hours for it to finish. My delays are set as 493-2500. Nothing will work. The IV's are also 31/31/31/31/31/30.

Anyone able to help (Don't recommend JavaRNG as I can't download it with this laptop. I've downloaded Javaruntime to make it run .jar files but it won't work).

Thanks :toast:
 
sir i just want to know does eon timer can reach a delay above 5000 please answer i just need the answer to manipulate my trainer ID

Wait, why were you asking OD?
As Khift said, of course you can. It wouldn't be very good if you couldn't.

thx sir.. do you know how to manipulate Id number sir would you mind teaching me?

First, read the guide on the first page. After that, come back and ask specific questions. To just "teach" everyone that wants to learn is way more work than we can really deal with on a regular basis. It's best that you teach yourself as much as possible, then ask.



Edit: @Lackatar, instead of going for a 31 in attack, set your attack to "HP" and the rest toe >= 30. This will give you all of the highest HP spreads and you can pick an HP ice from there rather than searching for something so specific.
 
Edit: @Lackatar, instead of going for a 31 in attack, set your attack to "HP" and the rest toe >= 30. This will give you all of the highest HP spreads and you can pick an HP ice from there rather than searching for something so specific.

Umm not quite following. I set the attack to HP. And everything else is >=30. But then that gives you a different hidden power? Dx
 
Okay I'm going to RNG a non-shiny Timid Zapdos (Soul Silver Version) with HP Ice.
I'm using the Capture tab on RNG's Time finder. But I'm not getting results. Just hours of searching billions of seeds, and nothing. I've tried making the frames goto 1000 which takes hours for it to finish. My delays are set as 493-2500. Nothing will work. The IV's are also 31/31/31/31/31/30.

Anyone able to help (Don't recommend JavaRNG as I can't download it with this laptop. I've downloaded Javaruntime to make it run .jar files but it won't work).

Thanks :toast:
Try using Wichu's PokeRNG. I find it takes a hundredth or even a thousandth as much time to search for seeds than RNG Reporter does. I couldn't begin to tell you why it works so much faster but I can definitely vouch for it.
 
Umm not quite following. I set the attack to HP. And everything else is >=30. But then that gives you a different hidden power? Dx

Right, some of them will be wrong, but some will be right. Just find the ice ones and go with one of them.

Try using Wichu's PokeRNG. I find it takes a hundredth or even a thousandth as much time to search for seeds than RNG Reporter does. I couldn't begin to tell you why it works so much faster but I can definitely vouch for it.

Oh yeah, good call there. I forgot about it, somehow.
 
Try using Wichu's PokeRNG. I find it takes a hundredth or even a thousandth as much time to search for seeds than RNG Reporter does. I couldn't begin to tell you why it works so much faster but I can definitely vouch for it.

Doesn't seem to be working. I tried downloading the whole package. Then opening it. But it says I haven't done something yet?

Edit: Nevermind, I added all the files into a new folder and it works now. I'll go try working it now. Thanks a bunch! (Wow that just took me back to Super Mario Sunshine xD thanks a bundlessss)
 
Wait, why were you asking OD?
As Khift said, of course you can. It wouldn't be very good if you couldn't.



First, read the guide on the first page. After that, come back and ask specific questions. To just "teach" everyone that wants to learn is way more work than we can really deal with on a regular basis. It's best that you teach yourself as much as possible, then ask.



sir the one that i want to know about id manipulation is when will be the right time for me to hit zero for the second time on the timer.
oh my god I'm not good at speaking English damn it makes my nose bleed
 
sir the one that i want to know about id manipulation is when will be the right time for me to hit zero for the second time on the timer.

For HGSS, you're aiming for the final screen where Oak says "I'll see you later!"
Unfortunately if you're trying for a different game, I can't help because this is the extent of my experience.
 
Hello friends, long time reader first time poster. I love what you guys do here. I have a question. I'm trying to RNG a modest suicune with decent hidden power electric in my soul silver game. I first tried using some of the special threads from the spread sheets in the RNG mechanics page but the viable spread had outrageous delays and even when maxing out my ds date of 2099 I still wasn't in my delay range (490-510). I then used time finder and found a good spread 31/21/31/30/31/31 however the frame of said spread is 798 meaning I need to make 797 elms calls to hit this. My question is, is there a better to go about getting spreads with small frames?

Sorry for wall of post :(
 
Hello friends, long time reader first time poster. I love what you guys do here. I have a question. I'm trying to RNG a modest suicune with decent hidden power electric in my soul silver game. I first tried using some of the special threads from the spread sheets in the RNG mechanics page but the viable spread had outrageous delays and even when maxing out my ds date of 2099 I still wasn't in my delay range (490-510). I then used time finder and found a good spread 31/21/31/30/31/31 however the frame of said spread is 798 meaning I need to make 797 elms calls to hit this. My question is, is there a better to go about getting spreads with small frames?

Sorry for wall of post :(
You can also advance the frame with the radio, I don't know how much each radio station advances a frame (because some of them have different advances) but there's one that advances it between 14-18 I think, check at the begging of the post to see which is.
 
Yeah its 14-18 advances, it says its inconsistent though so would advance it the 14-18 then make a string of elm calls to see where my frame is at?
 
Someone direct me to an easy, understandable tutorial on how to use PokeRNG xD. I'm so close to beginning RNG'ing legends in HGSS :naughty:
 
Jeeeeeeeeeeesusssss. It's mind blowing xD I'm not quite sure how to use it but I'll go read that instruction thing she has on it.

If you still don't have a seed use this one: A21504F7

Delay:1260
Method K Frame Synch: 110, No synch:112
HP:Ice 70
31/22/30/31/31/31

Hello friends, long time reader first time poster. I love what you guys do here. I have a question. I'm trying to RNG a modest suicune with decent hidden power electric in my soul silver game. I first tried using some of the special threads from the spread sheets in the RNG mechanics page but the viable spread had outrageous delays and even when maxing out my ds date of 2099 I still wasn't in my delay range (490-510). I then used time finder and found a good spread 31/21/31/30/31/31 however the frame of said spread is 798 meaning I need to make 797 elms calls to hit this. My question is, is there a better to go about getting spreads with small frames?

Sorry for wall of post :(

Use a timer to hit higher delays easily. I recommend Eontimer, which you can get from ToastPlusOne's sig above. If you really don't want to do that then you can simply download Radio Seed on the first page and advance your frames via the radio. Radio Seed helps you track your frame, as Pokemon Talk advances it between 13-14 frames each time.
 
If you still don't have a seed use this one: A21504F7

Delay:1260
Method K Frame Synch: 110, No synch:112
HP:Ice 70
31/22/30/31/31/31



Use a timer to hit higher delays easily. I recommend Eontimer, which you can get from ToastPlusOne's sig above. If you really don't want to do that then you can simply download Radio Seed on the first page and advance your frames via the radio. Radio Seed helps you track your frame, as Pokemon Talk advances it between 13-14 frames each time.

Can't hit Even delays. Only odd ones.
Besides I wanna know how to use pokeRNG instead of asking people for seeds.

Edit: Also whats the frame synch and No synch?
 
Someone direct me to an easy, understandable tutorial on how to use PokeRNG xD. I'm so close to beginning RNG'ing legends in HGSS :naughty:


Its rather simple, assuming your screen looks like this one

You start by selecting your game(Dppt/HGSS) then your nature(timid) then your Hidden Power(Ice) and its Power(default is 30 change it to 70). Then for IV's the default setting is equal to or greater than( looks like this > with a line under it ) if you want to change that there is an =(equal), <(less than or equal to) or the HP(I don't mess with this one). So for HP Ice, we want everything aside from Att to be greater than 30(you can also leave speed at 31). so change all the stats to 30 except Attack which should be to a 0 and at least the def to 30(as a 31/X/30/31/31/31 spread still gives HP Ice). Then Delays, Min should be about 100 higher than your calibrated(580-600 for HG/SS) and Max should be 2500-5000(whatever you're comfortable with). Leave a 0 in the min/max frame and it will search for all frame spreads and then search.

EDIT: Since you can only hit odd frames change the any delay to Odd and it will display only odd delays then.

Also Synch frame is if you are using a synchronizer(Abra/Ralts/Espeon etc) with the desired nature(timid in your case). If not use the non synch frame.
 
Its rather simple, assuming your screen looks like this one

You start by selecting your game(Dppt/HGSS) then your nature(timid) then your Hidden Power(Ice) and its Power(default is 30 change it to 70). Then for IV's the default setting is equal to or greater than( looks like this > with a line under it ) if you want to change that there is an =(equal), <(less than or equal to) or the HP(I don't mess with this one). So for HP Ice, we want everything aside from Att to be greater than 30(you can also leave speed at 31). so change all the stats to 30 except Attack which should be to a 0 and at least the def to 30(as a 31/X/30/31/31/31 spread still gives HP Ice). Then Delays, Min should be about 100 higher than your calibrated(580-600 for HG/SS) and Max should be 2500-5000(whatever you're comfortable with). Leave a 0 in the min/max frame and it will search for all frame spreads and then search.

EDIT: Since you can only hit odd frames change the any delay to Odd and it will display only odd delays then.

Also Synch frame is if you are using a synchronizer(Abra/Ralts/Espeon etc) with the desired nature(timid in your case). If not use the non synch frame.

Cool I managed to find a seed. But Idk what frame it is?

Edit: Found it. But the frames away up to 1708...
 
O right the results display three frames(Method 1, K(synch), and K(no synch).

There should be a little scroll bar on the bottom that allows you to scroll left to right, and you want the K(no synch frame).

Now if it says none then you may have to use a timid synchronizer, or a different seed.
 
O right the results display three frames(Method 1, K(synch), and K(no synch).

There should be a little scroll bar on the bottom that allows you to scroll left to right, and you want the K(no synch frame).

Now if it says none then you may have to use a timid synchronizer, or a different seed.

Okay... I found another seed but the frame is past 30000... This is ridiculous

Edit: Found another with a frame of 303. This shall do nicely but how will I advance the frames quickly? (HGSS)
 
what kind of max delay are you using? Also what kind of spread are you aiming for?

Try limiting MK Frame to 1000 and see if you get any results.


I got a seed with 4307 Delay, and a frame of 303 with 31/22/30/31/31/31, if you just want me to give it to you.

EDIT: If you can't hit delays that are high you should use a timer(Eontimer is what I use) it can be found in ToastPlusOne's Sig above. Otherwise with low delays your frames will be crazy.
 
what kind of max delay are you using? Also what kind of spread are you aiming for?

Try limiting MK Frame to 1000 and see if you get any results.


I got a seed with 4307 Delay, and a frame of 303 with 31/22/30/31/31/31, if you just want me to give it to you.

EDIT: If you can't hit delays that are high you should use a timer(Eontimer is what I use) it can be found in ToastPlusOne's Sig above. Otherwise with low delays your frames will be crazy.

I use Toastplusones timer. Also Thats the exact frame and delay I found on my PokeRNG xD. Anyway will I use the radio to advance the frame by one?

Edit: Lastly I'll need a recap. I plug in the seed into the seed to time. Hit my delay and verify my seed with the 12 calls. Then goto the main page and plug the seed in there to keep track of what seed I'm on. Once I reach frame 302. I talk to Zapdos?
 
The radio advances by 13-14, so keeping track of it is tough without radio seed(in the first post).

And yes as Zapdos has a monster frame of 1, itd be 303-Roamers-monster frame= advances, so 302 advances assuming no roamer.

Also it only takes 9 elm calls to confirm you hit your delay/seed.
 
The radio advances by 13-14, so keeping track of it is tough without radio seed(in the first post).

And yes as Zapdos has a monster frame of 1, itd be 303-Roamers-monster frame= advances, so 302 advances assuming no roamer.

Also it only takes 9 elm calls to confirm you hit your delay/seed.

How else will I advance the frames then?

Edit: This might help. Some radios advance by 1 all the time. So do that quickly for 302 times. Then I battle Zapdos? Will it work?
 
How else will I advance the frames then?

Edit: This might help. Some radios advance by 1 all the time. So do that quickly for 302 times. Then I battle Zapdos? Will it work?

Yeah the radio could help you with that. But what I do is. Since you have a relatively high frame. What you could do is use the radio that advances by 13-14. Just after using it x amount of times, call Elm keeping track of what he says. Than after about 6-10 calls after the radio advancements find the matching set within RNG reporter.
So say you do six calls and those calls come out to K,K,P,P,E,E. Search for that (going to have to do it by hand, by scrolling through the seed yourself) set of calls. If you find one, that matches call once more making sure you are correct and see if it matches with the next frame.
It can be easily manipulated through that way.
No need for that extra program.

Also, as a quick tid bit. If you advance the frame the exact same way, it will always use the same frame usage every time you hit that seed.
So say you hit the seed, call Elm 10 times to verify. Use the radio that does 13-14, 5 times. Call 7 times, it will always be the same frame after that if you did it the exact same way. Easier way to keep track :P
 
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