Well, I've came up with a team...

Eriorguez

Eriorguez

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Gyarados @ Lefties
Adamant
252 Atk/96 Spd/40 HP/40 SpDef
-Waterfall
-Earthquake
-Dragon Dance
-Ice Fang

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Milotic @ Lefties
Bold
252 Def/48 Spd/104 HP/104 SpAtk
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Recover
-Hypnosis

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Weavile @ Life Orb
Adamant
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
-Ice Punch
-Blade Test
-Swords Dance
-Brick Break

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Gliscor @ Lefties (Hyper Cutter)
Jolly
252 Atk/192 Spd/60 HP
-Earthquake
-Aerial Ace
-Stone Edge
-Swords Dance

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Electivire @ Life Orb
Jolly
252 Atk/128 Spd/128 SpAtk
-Earthquake
-Ice Punch
-Flamethrower
-Thunder Punch

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Magmortar @ Life Orb
Timid
252 SpAtk/128 Spd/128 SpAtk
-Fire Blast
-Thunderbolt
-Substitute
-Focus Punch

The strategy is to sweep playing mind games: Gyarados sweep, and, when electric attacker shows up, Electivire takes it to boost it's Speed and sweep.

Weavile with SD and Life Orb wreacks havoc, and, if some WoWer appears, I switch to Milotic and take advantage of boosted Defense.

Gliscor is there as a Hera counter, and Magmortar is there to go Special and surprise with SubPunch.
 
I reeeeally don't like the EVs on Gyarados, so consider something else there. The Gliscor set is a bit useless, since two of your three other physical attackers can already boost their own attack. Try Tail Wind > Baton Pass to help out your slow team. Give Electivire Thunderbolt > Thunderpunch and make him either Hasty or Lonely nature, since he won't be taking an Earthquake either way. He definitely likes Ice Punch over Focus Bomb. Buuburn would do better with Hidden Power Grass to take out Swampert, and Fire Blast will help more than Flamthrower.

The Gyarados/Electivire combo is pretty cool ;]

EDIT:

Thunderbolt over Thunderpunch on Electivire and Cross Chop over Focus Bomb.
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Why? Cross Chop doesn't help his type coverage much at all.;)
 
Your movesets and EV spreads need a hell of a lot of work. Give them some actual thought. The fact that you have two of the best Heracross counters on your team and yet still have massive problems with it is not good.
 
Definitely gotta fix the EVs. They are pretty lazy. Glion needs HP.

It seems like you just tossed lefties on everything. Why? There are better choices, like the life orb and stuff like that.

Focus Bomb's accuracy is going to kill you so you might want to find something better.

No taunt on DD Gyarados is iffy.

And i know this is kind of lame of me to do, but i highly suggest you replace magmortar altogether. There are like 14 better special attackers i can think of off the top of my head.
 
Well, I edited it a bit, following your suggestions.

But, I don't know what to take out for Traunt. Not only because I usually mess up with truant, but I need STAB, EQ, and shitty Garchomp dealer...
 
Glion works better with Tail Wind+Somersualt. Its better than just switching out, unless glion is outspeed alot. Also, Tail wind lasts 3 turns, including the 1 it is used. So really only 2 turns, and if you switch out/somersault, it only helps the next pokemon you send in for 1 turn. It's not worth it. Maybe Agility+Baton pass+EQ+Stone edge. Life Orb to make up for its attack, and even then it doesn't really need to Baton Pass agility. Milotic does fine without speed, Weavile is naturally fast, Gyarados has DDance, Electivire has its ability, and Magmar2 should be replaced by Infernape, who is faster.

Replace Glion with Aerodactyl: D-Edge/SE/EQ/AAce

Or even Better, AG Salamence (takes Bbreaks coming at Weavile), and intimidate is nice.

MS/Hydro/Blast/Hp Grass or Pulse Bomb.

Infernape: @Life Orb/Concentration Band... Flare Drive/Eq/In Fight/Swords Dance or Stone Edge.
 
Gyarados would like STAB, yes, but it's one of the few pokemon that can actually do without it, when you think about it. If you consider the pokemon that have any business switching into Gyarados in DP, you realize that Ice Fang hits Zapdos harder than Waterfall (130 vs 120), that Skarmory is actually more destroyed by Taunt than Waterfall, that you're not beating Milotic, Suicune and Manaphy with Waterfall whereas you will with Taunt, and that you're not outspeeding Aerodactyl with one DD either way and OHKO with Ice Fang with two, you see that Gyarados can definitely get away with it. Earthquake does 100 to Waterfall's 120, which may miss some KOs against pokes like Blissey and Swampert, but not enought to ignore the awesmeness of Taunt in DP imo, now that it last 2-4 turns and generally grants you additional DDes.

And for what it's worth, in Advance Gengar didn't really have STAB and it still did quite well.

I would replace Magmortar with AG Mence and that's not just because I love AG Mence; it totally outclasses Magmortar.
 
Isn't this Gyarados set better?
Dragon Dance - Waterfall - Return - Taunt

Your set can be easily walled by Ludicolo, Weezing, Suicune with Roar...
 
Gliscor works far better without Tail Wind. It has to really, being as it does not learn it. Give him Aerial Ace and plenty of HP or Heracross will crap on your team.

You can get away with a Tauntless Gyarados as you have Magmortar and Electivire to absorb WoW and Thunder Wave. Boosted hits will wear down phazers eventually too. I'd put something better to absorb burns though. Heracross/Heatran/Infernape all do a better job.
 
Bekins said:
Isn't this Gyarados set better?
Dragon Dance - Waterfall - Return - Taunt

Your set can be easily walled by Ludicolo, Weezing, Suicune with Roar...
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Jump's DDance, Ice Fang, EQ, Taunt set handles Roarcune well enough. Gyara has more to fear from electrics (other than Zap) so EQ makes quick work of them. Garchomp is a bigger threat than Weezing and Ludicolo combined, so Ice Fang is still better.
 
Bekins said:
Isn't this Gyarados set better?
Dragon Dance - Waterfall - Return - Taunt

Your set can be easily walled by Ludicolo, Weezing, Suicune with Roar...
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chewy handled most of what I was going to say, so I'll just note that in DP, since Weezing lost physical Sludge Bomb but only has five points lower SpA than Attack, it would make a rather handy Gyarados and Heracross counter in one with TB/FT/Pain Split/Haze.
 
Why do you have thunderbolt over thunderpunch on electivire and you have fire punch over flamethrower on the same aforementioned pokemon? Plus, I would highly recommend going either all-physical or all-special on Electivire, although going both ways is perfectly acceptable to me.

As far as the EVs on your gyarados go, I like them! I know that some other people have dissed them, but they allow gyarados to survive all of the counters that I was going to use against gyarados on the theoretical team that I was going to post, but now I'll have to revise it, as I realize how vulnerable my team would've been.

If you absolutely must go with Booburn (I know that it's "Magmortar", but I like to have the word "Boob" appear in a pokemon's name) over Infernape, at least give it fire blast. The extra punch is very useful for putting your opponent into a bind.
 
I have Tbolt there form Skarm.

And I want to use Magmortar. I'm not sure about Fire Blast usage, I think 125 SpAtk, STAB, and AG is enough...
 
Eriorguez said:
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Gyarados @ Lefties
Adamant
252 Atk/96 Spd/40 HP/40 SpDef
-Aqua Tail
-Earthquake
-Dragon Dance
-Ice Fang

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Milotic @ Lefties
Bold
252 Def/48 Spd/104 HP/104 SpAtk
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Recover
-Hypnosis
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Weavile @ Life Orb
Adamant
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
-Ice Punch
-Blade Test
-Swords Dance
-Brick Break

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Gliscor @ Lefties (Hyper Cutter)
Jolly
252 Atk/192 Spd/60 HP
-Earthquake
-Aerial Ace
-Stone Edge
-Swords Dance

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Electivire @ Life Orb
Adamant/Jolly
252 Atk/128 Spd/128 SpAtk
-Earthquake
-Ice Punch
-Fire Punch
-Thunderpunch

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Magmortar @ Aderance Glasses
Timid
252 SpAtk/252 Spd/4 HP
-Flamethrower
-Sunny Day
-Psychic
-Solarbeam


The strategy is to sweep playing mind games: Gyarados sweep, and, when electric attacker shows up, Electivire takes it to boost it's Speed and sweep.

Weavile with SD and Life Orb wreacks havoc, and, if some WoWer appears, I switch to Milotic and take advantage of boosted Defense.

Gliscor is there as a BPer, and Magmortar is there to go Special.
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I've noticed a common pattern to IcyShock's rates: They suck.

BTW, put Cross Chop over Sunny Day on Magmortar for the inevitable Blissey switchins, WoW over solarbeam. T-bolt and solarbeam both counter waters, while WoW really neuters all ground pokes.

No normal resist/immunity means PorygonZ/normal CBers can knock out a few of your pokes w/o breaking a sweat. Also you don't have a rock resist, meaning if DDtar or TR Rhyperior sets up its gg. Put a Wishing Jirachi over Weavile or Magmortar to add some resistances to your team and provide healing support.

Something like this might be good IMO

Jirachi @Leftovers
-Protect
-Reminescent Headbutt
-Somersault/Body Slam
-Wish
 
I have already "Optimzed" Electrivire's Ev's and stuff.

Best set ive seen so far.

Electivire (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Electric Engine
Ev's 252 Atk / 156 Spd / 160 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Thunderbolt *
- Brick Break **
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake


* More damage than T-punch, can kill Gyara withought the fear of Intimidate

**Corss Chop's PP will screw you, and they both 2HKO blissey anyways, you dont actualy lose anything, you gain PP.
 
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