Breaking the Metagame - Anti-Weather team Wifi Picked #100

[Milanor]

Breaking the metagame
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Hi all, I want to expose my latest wifi team with nice results making me top 100 at smogon server, I wish you like it

At a Glance:

Weakness/Resistances Board:

Team Build Process:​

From the start I wanted to do an anti weather team, they are fantastics, I started the team with heatran because he is an awesome sunny counter and he can put rocks easily forcing a lot of switches.

Then, I needed a rain counter, virizion can give problems to most rain teams, and he does a good psinergy with the exception of heatran's fighting weakness

Well, I have now the best SS counter in the metagame in my opinion, it can stop landorus and excadrill easily and phaze them, and he can stop some fighting types.

Skarmory wasn't enough to stop all the fighting types, to help him with things like infernape or roobushin, I put reuniclus in my team, with his incredible bulk he can stat up easily and sweep not prepared teams, he helps when fighting a stall.

I had some counters like rotom (he can burn virizion in the switch), thundurus, darmanitan, NP Nape (which is not used too much but can be a big problem), and some more, latios scarfed can stop most of them and he is an awesome Revenge Killer.

WTF? Snorlax?, yeah, he can stop a lot of special counters like non disable gengar, lati@s, reuniclus (2HKO with return), espeon CM and a lot more posible counters, he does good psinergy with fire/ice resistances thanks to its ability, I love pursuiting latios with him XD.

Hydreigon works better than latios as Revengekiller thanks to its resistance to pursuit, that make it hit and run a lot of times, and Jellicent can stop spinners and is an awesome wallbreaker.


In Detail:

@ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 248 SDef / 8 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Stealth Rock
- Will-O-Wisp
- Roar
- Flamethrower

My favourite Heatran set, awesome special wall with awesome resistances, he stops the hated volcarona (without HP Earth of course) and he can burn phisical sweepers that come in with will o wisp. With roar I can do some damage to my opponent with SR (specially if he has got rock weakness pokemon).

@ Lum Berry
Trait: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Leaf Blade
- Stone Edge

A lot more offensive than the CM variation, with Stone Edge it does KO to Tornadus that come in to hurricane with rocks, he can stop bulky waters that try to burn him

@ Shed Shell
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Spikes
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Whirlwind

My sand counter, stops Gliscor SD or another variation without taunt, stops landorus and stops excadrill (without gravity XD), he and heatran phaze the rival team with spikes and SR making a lot of damage with 3 lines.

@ Choice Scarf
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Def
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- U-turn
- Focus Blast

He stops a lot common counters like rotom, awesome RK, he can't be pursuited thanks to its dark resistance, thanks to u turn he can scout the opponent's team.

@ Leftovers
Trait: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Focus Blast
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Psychic

Stops fighting sweepers like roobushin or machamp easily and helps like last pokemon vs Stall, not much to say.

@ Leftovers
Trait: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 HP / 176 Def / 80 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Scald
- Taunt
- Recover
- Toxic

This jellicent is not stoped at all by Ferrothorn, because I can burn and taunt him, evading posible leech seed or spikes layers, thanks to its ability he can stop Standard CM Reuniclus who cant boost by the taunt and I wait for the psychic disable, using recover, he must use focus blast or switch out, if he use 8 focus blast I put hydreigon and he can't hit me.


Threat List:

Offensive Threats:

[COLOR=Black][IMG]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpicon/dpicon142.png[/IMG] Aerodactyl - Skarmory, he is not a problem to me
[IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/7e/Ani286MS.png[/IMG] Breloom - Seeing the opponent's team I know what poke is going to be more useless, I put it to get asleep and reuniclus wall him
 [IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/534.png[/IMG] Conkeldurr - Reuniclus or jellicent
  [IMG]http://pldh.net/media/pokecons/555.png[/IMG]Darmanitan -  Hydreigon can come in and RK him if he doesnt use Superpower and jellicent stops him
[IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/386-speed.png[/IMG]Deoxys-S - An offensive variant can give me problems, but I think he is walled by reuniclus, jellicent can stop it too
 [IMG]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpicon/dpicon149.png[/IMG] Dragonite - Bulky DD is switch in skarm and whirlwind but offensive DD have Fire Punch, which does 2HKO, if he come in again he wins, but I can sacrifice a pokemon with outrage and when he is trapped burn him with tran
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/a7/196MS.png[/IMG]Espeon - Hydreigon or jellicent disabling his psychic
 [IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/530.png[/IMG] Excadrill  - Skarmory phaze him
[IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/18/Ani094MS.png[/IMG] Gengar - A SubDisable version can give me a lot of problems
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d1/Ani130MS.png[/IMG] Gyarados - Hydreigon outspeed him with 1 DD and KOes him
 [IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/612.png[/IMG] Haxorus - Female Skarmory
[IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/03/Ani485MS.png[/IMG]  Heatran -  Jellicent stops him easily
[IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/635.png[/IMG] [COLOR=Red]Hydreigon[/COLOR] - LO walbreaker is so dangerous, I can only RK him with my hydreigon
[IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/74/Ani392MS.png[/IMG]Infernape - Reuniclus can come in and KO him with psychic and jellicent stops it
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/77/Ani385MS.png[/IMG] [COLOR=Red]Jirachi[/COLOR] - Rain variation with thunder is my perdition,
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/14/Ani135MS.png[/IMG] Jolteon - Hydreigon or virizion coming in Tbolt
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d8/Ani230MS.png[/IMG] Kingdra - I can stop him with jellicent+Skarm
 [IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/646.png[/IMG] Kyurem - I can wall him with jellicent
 [IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/645.png[/IMG] Landorus - Skarmory of course
 [IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/381.png[/IMG]Latios  - Heatran takes draco meteor and jellicent take surfs
[IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/b0/Ani448MS.png[/IMG] Lucario - Reuniclus, Skarm
[IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/cc/Ani068MS.png[/IMG] Machamp - Reuniclus
[IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d8/Ani462MS.png[/IMG] Magnezone - Skarm has got shed shell, he is not a problem
[IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/6/67/Ani473MS.png[/IMG] Mamoswine - Skarmory
 [IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/620.png[/IMG] Mienshao - Skarmory/Reuniclus
[IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/579.png[/IMG] Reuniclus - Jellicent disable psychic
[IMG]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpicon/dpicon407.png[/IMG] Roserade - Hydreigon RK him and heatran stops it
[IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/373.png[/IMG]Salamence - Double switch, first skarm, if he does outrage whirlwind in the next turn but if he does EQ I switch in Hydreigon for Fire Blast and RK him
 [IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/586.png[/IMG] Sawsbuck - Reuniclus or skarm 
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/b4/Ani212MS.png[/IMG] Scizor - Skarmory or heatran
[IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/560.png[/IMG] Scrafty - Skarmory
 [IMG]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpicon/dpicon235.png[/IMG] Smeargle - The same as breloom and then KO him with any poke
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/19/Ani121MS.png[/IMG]Starmie  - Hydreigon RK
[IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/639.png[/IMG] Terrakion - Skarmory or reuniclus
[IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/642.png[/IMG]  Thundurus - Hydreigon RK him
[IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/641.png[/IMG] [COLOR=Red]Tornadus[/COLOR] - I switch in heatran to see the damage and when I know the movepool:
Mixed: I hate that thing, he is a big problem
Specs: Heatran stays on hurricane and put rocks or phaze
[IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/59/Ani248MS.png[/IMG] Tyranitar - CB version: Virizion Scarf version: Virizion/Skarm Mixed version: Heatran
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/df/003MS.png[/IMG]Venusaur - I put the most useless pokemon in the battle it to get asleep, then heatran stops Special version, but mixed version can be a problem
 [IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/494.png[/IMG] Victini - Heatran/Hydreigon stop him
[IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/640.png[/IMG] Virizion - Hydreigon RK him and Reuniclus can stop it too
 [IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/637.png[/IMG] Volcarona - Heatran and jellicent
[IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/a0/Ani461MS.png[/IMG]  Weavile - Skarmory[/COLOR]

Deffensive Threats:

[IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/b5/Ani242MS.png[/IMG]  Blissey - That thing might not be a problem by having reuniclus
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/0d/Ani437MS.png[/IMG] Bronzong - Heatran
[IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/4b/Ani251MS.png[/IMG] Celebi - Heatran or Hydreigon
 [IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/113.png[/IMG]Chansey - That thing might not be a problem by having reuniclus
  [IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/598.png[/IMG]  Ferrothorn - Heatran
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/81/Ani205MS.png[/IMG]  Forretress -  Heatran ^^
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/3f/Ani472MS.png[/IMG] Gliscor - If he hasn't got taunt skarmory, if he has got taunt Hydreigon, but I dont KO him with DM
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/17/Ani450MS.png[/IMG] Hippowdon - Virizion can resist and boost easily and jellicent can stop it
[IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/593.png[/IMG] Jellicent - Virizion can stop it thanks to Lum Berry
 [IMG]http://veekun.com/dex/media/icons/380.png[/IMG]Latias - Toxic with Jellicent or Heatran and wait for his dead
  [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/10/038MS.png[/IMG]Ninetales - Hydreigon or Heatran
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e9/186MS.png[/IMG]Politoed - Hydreigon or virizion
  [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d6/Ani479WMS.png[/IMG]Rotom-W - Hydreigon or Virizion
 [IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/31/Ani227MS.png[/IMG] Skarmory -  Heatran

  [IMG]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpicon/dpicon073.png[/IMG] Tentacruel - Reuniclus but he can put 2 lines T_T
[IMG]http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/34/Ani178MS.png[/IMG]Xatu - Hydreigon

Sorry for my english and comment possible changes in the team :P

 

[Soulfly]

Nice team ,

You might want to consider shed shell above leftovers on skarmory so that they cant trap you.
Snorlax is nice but you say 'Can kill volcarona with HP earth' but he doesnt have hidden power :P
So that is a typo or i just dont understand it.

 

[kmuffinman]

Blissey is a problem for Reuniculus with your current moveset(contrary to what you said). What you need is Psyshock over Psychic, then Blissey can be taken down with ease

Nice team ,

You might want to consider shed shell above leftovers on skarmory so that they cant trap you.
Snorlax is nice but you say 'Can kill volcarona with HP earth' but he doesnt have hidden power :P
So that is a typo or i just dont understand it.

I think what he meant is earthquake

 

[afterburn]

I see a slight weakness to opposing Jellicent and Rotom-W. Once they know Virizion is running a Physical set, they can burn you with Will-O-Wisp. Taunt / WoW / Recover / Scald handles everything else on your team. Best you can do is Trick with Latios, meaning you have no revenge killer fast threats. Rotom-W can also burn your Physical attackers and hit the rest hard with Hydro Pump / Thunderbolt. A Scarf Draco Meteor won't KO it, forcing you to switch.

I think what you can try is either giving Virizion a Lum Berry as its item to bypass the burn from Jellicent / Rotom, or you could try a Calm Mind set over it forming a CM duo with Reuniclus. Since both share common counters, they could possibly weaken each other's counters to let the other sweep. Virizion has the added benefit of sweeping with Reuniclus destroying Blissey. (Calm Mind | Giga Drain | Focus Blast | HP Ice | EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 Def / 252 Spe | Nature: Timid)

Rapid Spin users are really annoying for you. CM Reuniclus is also a bit intimidating to face if you've tricked away Latios's Scarf on something else like a Ferrothorn. I think you could try a Cursed Body Jellicent over Snorlax. Snorlax is the weakest link here, with Fighting- types at every corner, and bad Speed, it might be tough bringing in Snorlax and get forced out pretty easily. Jellicent can Spin Block fine, while providing you with a way of getting past Reuniclus with Cursed Body and the upcoming Spread. Cursed Body crippling Reuniclus's only attack against you, Psychic. With Taunt + Recover + Scald, you can chip away at its health while preventing it from doing much.

Latios relies heavily on Draco Meteor to revenge threats such as Starmie and Thundurus, making you Pursuit bait. With Scizor and Tyranitar's popularity, most of the time they'll have no problem trapping you locked into DM, meaning you'll lose your Revenge Killer leaving you prone to faster threats. You can try other Scarf users in its place, such as Choice Scarf Hydregion; you check pretty much the same threats as Latios, but you're not Pursuit bait, and can actually KO Tyranitar with Focus Blast, which Latios can't. You also won't be relying on DM so much, with the good coverage provided by your other attacks. Lastly, give Toxic a shot over Will-O-Wisp or Roar on Heatran, so you can actually do something to Volcarona.

Cursed Body Jellicent / Scarf Hydregion

Jellicent (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 HP / 176 Def / 84 Speed
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Scald
- Taunt
- Recover
- Will-O-Wisp
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Hydregion (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
Timid nature (+Spe, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- U-turn
- Focus Blast
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[Tomahawk]

Nasty Plot Thundurus can be a huge threat to your team. Latios can revenge kill, yes, but having to sac one Pokemon every time when he switches in is not very reliable. Tornadus can also wreak havos with Specs Hurricane, or Specs Focus Blast if he predicts the Heatran switch in. You're quite weak to rain teams in general. You only have one Water-resist, who isn't really bulky enough to combat rain by itself, and a Snorlax, who doesn't resist and can't take Specs Hydro Pumps all day long.

Therefore, a Gastrodon > Snorlax seems like a good solution. He is immune to Hydro Pump, Surf and Thunder and is neutral to Ice Beam. He also has great special bulk and can take on all the threats Snorlax used to take on, with reliable recovery as well. The exact set is:

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Gastrodon @ Leftovers | Storm Drain
Calm | 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Scald / Earth Power / Toxic / Recover

You also seem very weak to the common DragMag teams. An easy solution is to use Shed Shell on Skarmory, as well as him making him female. This way, he takes less from Rivalry Haxorus.

Good luck!

 

[Milanor]

I see a slight weakness to opposing Jellicent and Rotom-W. Once they know Virizion is running a Physical set, they can burn you with Will-O-Wisp and render your set-up attempts useless. As for the rest of the team, Taunt / WoW / Recover / Scald handles everything on your team for good measure. Best you can do is Trick with Latios, meaning you have no revenge killer fast threats. Rotom-W can also burn your Physical attackers and hit the rest hard with Hydro Pump / Thunderbolt. A Scarf Draco Meteor won't KO it, forcing you to switch.

I think what you can try is either giving Virizion a Lum Berry as its item to bypass the burn from Jellicent / Rotom, or you could try a Calm Mind set over it forming a CM duo with Reuniclus. Since both share common counters, they could possibly weaken each other's counters to let the other sweep. Virizion has the added benefit of sweeping with Reuniclus destroying Blissey. (Calm Mind | Giga Drain | Focus Blast | HP Ice | EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 Def / 252 Spe | Nature: Timid)

Additionally, it seems Rapid Spin users are really annoying for you. Calm Mind Reuniclus is also a bit intimidating to face if you've tricked away Latios's Scarf on something else like a Ferrothorn. I think you could try a Cursed Body Jellicent over Snorlax. Snorlax is the weakest link here, with Fighting- types at every corner, and bad Speed, it might be tough bringing in Snorlax and get forced out pretty easily. Jellicent can Spin Block fine, while providing you with a way of getting past Reuniclus with Cursed Body and the upcoming Spread. Cursed Body crippling Reuniclus's only attack against you, Psychic. With Taunt + Recover + Scald, you can chip away at its health while preventing it from doing much.

Latios relies heavily on Draco Meteor to revenge threats such as Starmie and Thundurus, making you Pursuit bait. With Scizor and Tyranitar's popularity, most of the time they'll have no problem trapping you locked into DM, meaning you'll lose your Revenge Killer leaving you prone to faster threats. You can try other Scarf users in its place, such as Choice Scarf Hydregion; you check pretty much the same threats as Latios, but you're not Pursuit bait, and can actually KO Tyranitar with Focus Blast, which Latios can't. You also won't be relying on DM so much, with the good coverage provided by your other attacks. Lastly, give Toxic a shot over Will-O-Wisp or Roar on Heatran, so you can actually do something to Volcarona.

Cursed Body Jellicent / Scarf Hydregion

Jellicent (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 HP / 176 Def / 84 Speed
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Scald
- Taunt
- Recover
- Will-O-Wisp
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Hydregion (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
Timid nature (+Spe, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- U-turn
- Focus Blast
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Thanks you very much, snorlax and latios switches are both interesting ideas, I'll try them, Lum Berry on virizion is nice too because with rocks I have 100% KO to Thundurus/Tornadus too, but I dont like the idea of running 2 CM, because reuniclus is bulky but he is weak to pursuit and then a blissey can give me a lot of problems, in heatran I can use Lava Plume>Flamethrower and Toxic>will o wisp but I am playing with a 30%

 

[shinyskarmory]

I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but max speed trace Gardevoir is often an excellent weather counter. Try running this set over Reuniclus:
Gardevoir @ Life Orb
Ability: Trace
EVs: 6 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe
IVs (if running HP Ice) 30 Spe
Nature: Timid
>Psychic/Psyshock
>Thunderbolt/Thunder
>HP Ice/Focus Blast
>Hypnosis/Wish/Thunder Wave/Will-o-Wisp
With this set, Gardevoir reaches 283 Speed, which, while not outstanding in itself, allows it to outspeed many common weather sweepers once it Traces their ability. Psychic and Psyshock are a matter of personal preference, as both give Gardevoir reliable STAB coming off of base 120 special attack. Thunderbolt allows you to hit bulky waters and Swift Swimmers reliably, while Thunder specifically counters rain teams with a 120 BP SE move. The choice between Focus Blast and HP Ice is really about whether your team is more worried about Landorus and Gliscor (HP Ice) or Excadrill, Heatran, and Magnezone (Focus Blast). In fact, Gardevoir with this set can easily trap and kill Magnezone by tracing Magnet Pull.

The last move can be used for another coverage move, or supporting moves like Hypnosis, Wish, Thunder Wave, etc.

Good team overall. Enjoy!

 

[Raikaria]

You're quite weak to rain teams in general. You only have one Water-resist, who isn't really bulky enough to combat rain by itself, and a Snorlax, who doesn't resist and can't take Specs Hydro Pumps all day long.
Good luck!

Just to note, Latios resists water, as does Virizion, that's two resistances.

Anyway, I'm generally not the best in the world at teambuilding, but I can't help but notice a weakness to the Scizor+Rotom-W combo.

Skarmory and Heatran are the only two members of your team who can take Scizor on comfortably, and three members of your team are U-Turn weak [Snorlax dislikeing Superpowers]

Skarmroy and Heatran are weak to Electric and Water, respectivly.

As a result, U-Turn and Volt Switch from Scizor and Rotom-W can very quickly dismantle this team.

This is another reason to consider running one of the Water/Ground types, preferably Gastrodon, due to Storm Drain, like Tomahawk suggested.

Personally, I'd suggest replaceing Renklulus. I don't see how he fits in the idea of anti-weather, especially as Rain often carries Scizor, Sand almost always has Tyranitar, and Sun is already handled by Heatran and Snorlax. Renklulus is anti-stall.

 

[New World Order]

I would like to begin by saying pretty solid team in general, although there are a few problems.

Gastrodon is a superior rain check over Virizion. It is immune to Thundurus' STAB move, can eventually and isn't hit hard by anything other than +2 LO Focus Blast. Virizion on the other hand can be beaten down over time by HP Ice due to lack of recovery. Moreover, Virizion fails as a Tornadus check, it is OHKOd by Hurricane. Gastrodon's immunity to water is definately not a bad thing either.

Do NOT run Psyshock on Reuniclus. Psychic is necessary for beating Conkeldurr, and with Magic Guard, Blissey is set up bait anyways, so why bother KOing it off the start? Get to +6 :).

I suggest running Crunch on Snorlax over Earthquake. By swapping Virizion for Gastrodon, you now have a better way of dealing with Heatran. Against pokes such as the Latii twins, Starmie, and Reuniclus, Snorlax has the option of using both Crunch and Pursuit, because the aforementioned threats might not be KOd by Pursuit should they opt to switch in. Crunch if you predict they stay in, Pursuit if you think they flee.

 

[kmuffinman]

I would like to begin by saying pretty solid team in general, although there are a few problems.

Gastrodon is a superior rain check over Virizion. It is immune to Thundurus' STAB move, can eventually and isn't hit hard by anything other than +2 LO Focus Blast. Virizion on the other hand can be beaten down over time by HP Ice due to lack of recovery. Moreover, Virizion fails as a Tornadus check, it is OHKOd by Hurricane. Gastrodon's immunity to water is definately not a bad thing either.

Do NOT run Psyshock on Reuniclus. Psychic is necessary for beating Conkeldurr, and with Magic Guard, Blissey is set up bait anyways, so why bother KOing it off the start? Get to +6 :).

I suggest running Crunch on Snorlax over Earthquake. By swapping Virizion for Gastrodon, you now have a better way of dealing with Heatran. Against pokes such as the Latii twins, Starmie, and Reuniclus, Snorlax has the option of using both Crunch and Pursuit, because the aforementioned threats might not be KOd by Pursuit should they opt to switch in. Crunch if you predict they stay in, Pursuit if you think they flee.

It is kind of hard to predict when they are going to switch out and when they are not. I doubt most opponents will predict a Pursuit Snorlax, so I disagree with your point about that. Earthquake is a better coverage move. Plus, you might want to switch Return for Body Slam for paralysis support, allowing Snorlax to for once outspeed other pokes. Of course, if you are just looking for sheer power then Return is better, your pick
And I'll like to clarify on my previous statement on using Psyshock. You mentioned Blissey is not a problem with Reuniculus(in the threat list), but Reuniculus has a hard time KO-ing Blissey without Psyshock. Anyway, Psyshock always comes in handy for specially-defensive pokes, not just Blissey

 

[San_Pellegrino]

Hi,

Jellicent, Defensive Rotom-w and Thunderus can become problems for your team, as mentioned above by LK and Tomahawk. Once Latios is gone (via Pursuit from Scizor / Tyranitar / etc.) or has tricked away its scarf, there is little you can do to prevent a Thunderus sweep as it will one shot your whole team at +2. A quick fix for your problems with Jellicent and Rotom-w is simply to use Lum Berry on your SD Virizion, so when they try to burn you, you can SD, and KO with Leaf Blade. It would be difficult to add a hard counter to Thunderus / Tornadus, but a Gastrodon like the one Tomahawk suggested over Snorlax would be ideal. This give you a very solid rain counter, and give you the Gastrodon / Skarmory / Heatran core that covers much of the current metagame amongst them.

Additionally, your team is inclined to force switches on your opponent's side, and with your Skarmory laying down Spikes and Heatran putting down SR, it would be very bad if you should lose them to a Rapid Spinner like Starmie or Excadrill, the former of which can be an annoying threat for you to face in Rain. Something you could do to alleviate these issues is to use a spinblocker, and I prefer Gengar. It will cover up your huge weakness to NP Celebi with and without Psychic, running a set of Sub | Disable | Shadow Ball | Focus Blast, as well as help you beat Conkeldurr and opposing Bulky CM Reuniclus. An EV spread of 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe / 4 Def is ideal. It would be difficult to fit this pokemon in, but your Reuniclus looks like it covers the same threats the Gengar does in this team, and could fit over that.

There is little else for me to say here, although this looks similar to Tabloo, you have made a decent team. Good Luck!

 

[Shane]

Interesting team.

 

[Soulfly]

Interesting team.

Interesting comment :D
Sorry couldnt let that one go .

 

[AB2]

Hey, this is a nice team here and I really like the build although it does it does have its fair share of problems. Nasty plot Thundurus can boost up pretty easily by forcing a few of your team members out and pretty much one shot this entire team, even Snorlax with a boosted focus blast, and Latios won't be able to do much about it since its really pursuit weak. I really think that you could use to have a weather changer on this team for these reasons. I recommend Tyranitar over Snorlax as it gives you the ability to change the weather, which really helps you against drizzle based teams. Tyranitar can also still help you with similar threats that Snorlax did such as the lati twins, gengar, starmie, and now even Thundurus. A scarf set with crunch / pursuit / superpower / stone edge, jolly, and maximum attack and speed is fine.

Latios is really quite pursuit weak, it won't be able to do much with Tyranitar and Scizor's presence on a lot of teams. If you decide to test Tyranitar out, I think that Latios could be helping you out by doing another job for this team. Changing it to a choice specs would make it so that your team sets up for Reuniclus very well, by luring in and softening up Tyranitar and Scizor. Swords dance Virizion also has the ability to lure in one of Reuniclus' best possible counters, Jirachi. I'd even recommend swapping Reuniclus to an offensive trick room variant so that once specs Latios and Virizion do their jobs, Reuniclus can run through teams easily. A set with trick room / psychic / shadow ball / focus blast, quiet, life orb, and an ev spread of 164 HP / 92 Def / 252 SpA with a 0 spe iv would work well.

As for some smaller changes, I think that Heatran should really run toxic over will-o-wisp. Toxic allows you to beat last 'mon Volcarona which may become a bit harder if you decide to remove Snorlax from the picture. A spread of 248 HP / 252 SpDef / 8 Spe also allows you to take less damage from hazards. Latios should probably also run a timid nature over modest so that you have the ability to outrun quite a few threats such as Inferape. A spread of 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 Spe on Skarmory is also pretty useful since it allows you to roost up against cb tar who don't run a ton of speed.

This is a pretty nice team build and it seems like you've had some pretty nice success with it. Good Luck!

 

[Kir0]

Blissey is a huge problem to your team.

 

[Milanor]

I have updated the team with shed shell>leftovers, hydreigon>latios (pursuit weakness) and jellicent>snorlax (it stops reuniclus too thanks to its ability and acts as anti-spinner) EDIT: And lum berry in virizion to scald burns

Hey, this is a nice team here and I really like the build although it does it does have its fair share of problems. Nasty plot Thundurus can boost up pretty easily by forcing a few of your team members out and pretty much one shot this entire team, even Snorlax with a boosted focus blast, and Latios won't be able to do much about it since its really pursuit weak. I really think that you could use to have a weather changer on this team for these reasons. I recommend Tyranitar over Snorlax as it gives you the ability to change the weather, which really helps you against drizzle based teams. Tyranitar can also still help you with similar threats that Snorlax did such as the lati twins, gengar, starmie, and now even Thundurus. A scarf set with crunch / pursuit / superpower / stone edge, jolly, and maximum attack and speed is fine.

Latios is really quite pursuit weak, it won't be able to do much with Tyranitar and Scizor's presence on a lot of teams. If you decide to test Tyranitar out, I think that Latios could be helping you out by doing another job for this team. Changing it to a choice specs would make it so that your team sets up for Reuniclus very well, by luring in and softening up Tyranitar and Scizor. Swords dance Virizion also has the ability to lure in one of Reuniclus' best possible counters, Jirachi. I'd even recommend swapping Reuniclus to an offensive trick room variant so that once specs Latios and Virizion do their jobs, Reuniclus can run through teams easily. A set with trick room / psychic / shadow ball / focus blast, quiet, life orb, and an ev spread of 164 HP / 92 Def / 252 SpA with a 0 spe iv would work well.

As for some smaller changes, I think that Heatran should really run toxic over will-o-wisp. Toxic allows you to beat last 'mon Volcarona which may become a bit harder if you decide to remove Snorlax from the picture. A spread of 248 HP / 252 SpDef / 8 Spe also allows you to take less damage from hazards. Latios should probably also run a timid nature over modest so that you have the ability to outrun quite a few threats such as Inferape. A spread of 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 Spe on Skarmory is also pretty useful since it allows you to roost up against cb tar who don't run a ton of speed.

This is a pretty nice team build and it seems like you've had some pretty nice success with it. Good Luck!

Thanks, but I have tested reuniclus TR a lot of time and he doesnt works in the team, but thanks you anyway, and if I put ttar>snorlax, my sinergy is going to be so bad, but I can try it, CB version or CS version?, if I put CS I can change latios to Choice Specs maybe (in the old team)

Thanks to all for the rates, how looks the team now?

Interesting team.

O.o XD

 

[min min]

SubQD Volcarona under sun could be a problem for you since it can set up on Jelicent. If Heatran is removed then serious shit is going to go down.