Ferrothorn: has thunder wave/leech seed/ power whip and gyro ball to still be helpful in other ways:
Forretress: has rapid spin and toxic spikes for extra spiking
Smeargle:spore disables set-uppers. Smeargle is RU for a reason btw.
Deoxys: Taunt will cripple other stall teams. Psycho Boost and superpower can still KO major threats like conkeldurr and tyranitar
Is there anyone I forgot?
The point is: these spikers still have other uses... TormentSkarm has nothing else but lay down spikes and die...
None of them guarantees 3 layers up majority of the time. And I would like people to try it before commenting on how it looks on paper.
















