in your opinion, good pokes that are being overlooked this gen

harle1012000

It seems this gen, some people keep hyping certain strong pokes (land Shark and Specsmence) while certain pokes seem to get ignored. Though I agree for the hype, I feel strongly that some pokes deserve some attention. NOTE: I'm not too good on EV spreads and such so I apologize in advance for no EV numbers.

Empoleon - Yeah, compared to Goku monkey or bulky waters this guy is usually forgotten and tossed aside. Being countered by Duggy and Magnezone hurts his viability and with the offensive nature of the D/P metagame, he seems doomed. But I think he can survive well:

Empoleon *Leftovers
Yawn
Stealth Rock/Ice Beam/Surf
Protect
Ice Beam/Surf

Yawn Duggy/Magnezone switch and Protect. They fall asleep and you can lay Stealth Rocks. If you want someone else for this role, just have him surf or ice beam. counters CSmence somewhat (reason why protect and ice beam are there). ice beam does butt to magnezone so surf is viable too. you could squeeze grass rope there too to counter bulky waters or aqua ring, but I'd rather leave leave that role to someone else (ludicolo?).

any pokes you feel are overlooked this gen?
 
When I read the title to this thread, I was thinking of pokes like Glaceon and Brozong. I see Empoleon mostly as countering ludicolo.
 
Definitely Flygon. He resists the dreaded QuakeSlide, something Mence and Garchomp don't. While he's not as sturdy as Gliscor, Flygon's at least less predictable with a decent special attack under its sleeve.
 
NONE of the new Pokemon are getting much attention besides a select 5 or so, and that saddens me.

Mismagius, Lopunny, Staraptor, Rampardos, Drifblim, Gastrodon, Mamoswine, Hippowdon and many others deserve their chance to shine, as they aren't half bad.
 
Hariyama is an overall solid pokemon that can use Counter, Knock Off, and Whirlwind as an excellent, hard-hitting support pokemon.

Blaziken is a SD passer that isn't stopped by Skarmory.

Ursaring has been hyped in discussion threads but I don't see many RMTs with him. =/
 
Yeah, Torterra does get a bad rap. Most haven't gotten past "LOL slow 4x ice weak bye k thx" to realize that it has plenty of resists with which to get in(HELLOOOO Stonequake resist), and the hitting power to force switches, as well as some limited but useful support options.

I'm glad some one mentioned Magmortar. it does have drawbacks..well, ok, being a slow fire-type pretty much sucks. But I'm sure that power can be put to good use....
 
also,. . .

Machamp - on a trick room team he's godly with No Armor and CB, if not he's still a beast

Miltank - t-wave, stealth rocks, heal bell are all good support options and this thing has excellent defenses and speed.

Drapion - 1 weakness with the defenses to survive a random EQ. knock off, whirlwind, acupressure, poison spikes (not too bad when two layers or with Stealth Rocks already out), and can Swords Dance and Agility. overall a decent support poke, which IMO is probably how he should be played.

Slowking - always outclassed by Slowbro for the less defenses, but makes a good special wall with Calm Mind (does better against Specsmence than his brother).
 
If people consistently agree that some Pokemon are underrated, then it was never underrated to begin with. A Pokemon can't be underrated if everyone thinks he's underrated. It ruins the point.

I just read an Ambipom discussion... Wow. I really underestimated him. His Double Hit is sweet for ripping subs.

Yeah, so many people have hyped Land Shark that everyone is really infact hyping Ice Beam/Ice Shard/Avalanche instead... I haven't seen a Land Shark in a team before... But then again, I don't go on the RMT subforum.
 
agree'd on many of the suggestions by all of you posters. and for flygon, people seem to forget he can DD, which unless I'm mistaken is something Landshark can't do. after one DD he's faster and stronger than Landshark (though he still can't counter him efficiently).
 
Striker said:
If people consistently agree that some Pokemon are underrated, then it was never underrated to begin with. A Pokemon can't be underrated if everyone thinks he's underrated. It ruins the point.

I just read an Ambipom discussion... Wow. I really underestimated him. His Double Hit is sweet for ripping subs.

Yeah, so many people have hyped Land Shark that everyone is really infact hyping Ice Beam/Ice Shard/Avalanche instead... I haven't seen a Land Shark in a team before... But then again, I don't go on the RMT subforum.
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not really underrated, just overlooked and dismissed. people often stick so close to standards they forget the potential some pokes have if not for surprise factor alone.
 
harle1012000 said:
agree'd on many of the suggestions by all of you posters. and for flygon, people seem to forget he can DD, which unless I'm mistaken is something Landshark can't do. after one DD he's faster and stronger than Landshark (though he still can't counter him efficiently).
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Flygon can't Dragon Dance

If not we were seeing Flygon more often because now the only thing it has to compete with the superior Garchomp is U-turn, the Ground/Rock resistance and maybe Roost.
 
TBQH I think people forget about Landshark when we all realized:

"Hey, Mence is still a beast and actually has some resistances to switch in on (notably Fighting, Bug and a much better immune in Ground), plus a trait that doesn't help it only when TTar or Hippowdon have been in play."

Staraptor isn't underrated, there's just not much to say about it except "Slap on a CB and start raping stuff."
 
Lickilicky has some spiffy defenses, good boosting moves in Curse and Swords Dance, a large, usable attacking movepool on both ends, and the strongest Explosion in the game. I'm surprised he's so overlooked.
 
magnezone, ursaring, metagross, yanmega, dragonite, primeape, drapion, lickilicky are some I think are decent or above but never see used by anyone except me in some cases.
 
I think that Mesprit has been overlooked because all people ever wanted to discuss about it was its Japanese name, and then it got forgotten. Calm Mind BoltBeam is very awesome, and Mesprit has the Special Attack and defenses to pull it off; Levitate is a bonus.
 
ihcati said:
I agree with SePH. After reading his warstory many of us can agree that Magnezone is really underrated.
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what surprised me is that something with 4x weak to EQ can KO 4 pokes fairly efficiently. I'm sure this will make people rethink ground weak pokes. i can't tell you how many times I've seen the "But it's weak to the ever common EQ and thus BL/UU" argument.
 
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