UncleSam said:
Leethoof, I'd like you to explain your scummy behavior (namely your confusing and unhelpful posts, your buddying me, and why you "forgot" your persuasion earlier on).
Ok, allow me to begin by explaining my poor reasoning for each and every one of my posts.
Myself said:
Hello. If you guys cannot decide by the deadline of day 1, you can always lynch me and get another day to discuss. Because this is my first NOC, my scum-detector is not very-well tuned.
However, I have to agree on Steven Snype jumping back and forth, because it is weird. All of this discussion is a litte confusing :S.
This post is me just trying to get something up before people went too bandwagon-y on me before for inactivity. However, I should have waited and confirmed some rule questions before (the main one being, no deadline for daytime) posting this up. In addition, I was jumping on the Steven Snype because I was confused and was piggybacking off of aska's post directly above mine.
Myself said:
Hi.
I'd like to begin by clearing up my first post. I thought that NOC Mafia had a dayline, but and thought that sacrificing my useless mind for an extra X hours of discussion would be for the good of the village. However, from what I understand, the day ends when a majority is reached. So, that was just me being noob and dumb.
Now, I will exhibit my opinions on players after this question is answered.
Is the mafia allowed to have outside communication with eachother?
This was my attempt to clear up my first post, which apparently most people ignored, as well as another rules confirmation.
Myself said:
OK, well I may not be able to provide the most insightful of discussion, but I can (somewhat tentatively) clean Uncle Sam. I have been persuaded (by the night role) to vote for him. As far as I can tell, that is a mafia role, and why would they help lynch one of their own? However, I could be wrong and persuader might be village role, so ignore this in that case.
However, I must:
@@Vote Uncle Sam@@
This is where you all decided I was mafia, because of my forgetfulness as well as buddying with Sam. Yes, I forgot. Will you accept that answer? No. So, my real super-secret reason was to bring on the downfall of the village by starting a bandwagon on Uncle Sam, while innocently pretending to be persuaded! Bwahaha. No, I seriously forgot. Give it up, guys, its probably the lamest reason to lynch somebody ever.
I can explain my semi-buddying with Sam as well. Let's face it, he's driving all of this brilliant discussion right now with his constant prowling and finger-pointing. This is even more buddying, but its pretty much impossible to deny the fact that Sam is one of the most important people to the village right now. He's targeted nearly every user afaik, and forced others to give valuable opinions. Buddying or not, supporting Sam is good for village. Enough other users have pointed out scummyness in him.
Myself said:
I'll be honest, I forgot about it, as I read my results, went inactive for a day and a half, until the hosts gave me a friendly reminder. I doubt that satisfies your scrutinizing eye, but that's the reason. Now that we have one less user to worry about (US, not me), let's move on to threatlist.
UncleSam: clean as a bean (that is a clean bean)
Ditto: The whole idea of deciding how many mafia isn't really important this early imo, but it is helpful anyways.
Billymills: Sleeping is a pretty good excuse for inactivity, and the discussion he posted made up for it
Metal Bagon: Inactive when I'm fairly certain he's still active as usual in ASB, so possible scum
zorbees: Following on what Kaxtar said, the "i dont discuss much" and then "you should discuss more people" is a little contradictory
Blue Tornado: Positive discussion overall
Snike: Trying to pick up the pieces of Snype's suspicuousness, doing well
Here I started the bandwagon on MB by pointing out his activity in ASB. Bandwagon-starting, as well as my continued buddying with US, made this post even scummier. I already explained my buddying with US, because he is/was a good leader. However, like others have pointed out, the persuasion could be to try and clean him, and I would obviously be an excellent target for falling that trick, being a naive noob. Therefore, suspicions rise against him. In fact, his complete defensiveness of 'lol you just remembered you were persuaded what a noob' is him trying to deflect attention from the way that HE is the possible mafia here. I think US might even be focusing too much on my forgetfullness, neglecting the fact that the persuasion is actually real.
myself said:
Since Yeti or someone asked earlier that everyone give their opinion on Ditto, here is mine. I think it is a sort of reverse-psychology, "come at me bros" move. He is daring us to lynch him, to see if our suspicions are correct. This could mean he's either fed up with the village, or is a gutsy scum. I'm leaning towards the fed up, personally, for no real reason.
Jalmont has valid points on Crux and MK being weird, but I have no real opinions towards either due to my noobishness.
Jalmont and Staraptor Call only recently became active, but both are providing insightful reads and useful discussion, so clean to me.
I have thought more about UncleSam. It is possible that I have been persuaded to pseudo-clean him, but even if he is mafia, I think he might be useful to keep around longer. He promotes most of the discussion in this thread, and even if he targets us towards defenite villys, the discussion provided will eventually point us to more mafia.
I'm still trying to look through Quagsires, Brammi's, Wick's, BT's, and billymills posts, among others.
If everyone else can pretend to be a certified psychologist capable of fully reading thoughts from a bunch of typed words, so can I!
Still more retarded buddying with US, which I have reversed in the above post. Added in some rather valid opinions on DItto, but I did ignore Quagsire and other lynch targets because I was sleepy.
So, that sums up my explanation for now. UncleSam, you are currently pseudo-cleaned by me being persuaded, and seem to be deflecting all attention of that onto me being forgetful. Why?