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2011-12 Football/Soccer Thread

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I'm not saying we deserved to win at all, we did look sloppy at the back, and having the second choice centre backs in wasn't exactly what I was looking for when lining up against a team like Chelsea. It is different though. you say we only looked lively when we were two down, but thats because we had to really push for it, leaving King/Gallas susceptible to pressure it's clear they can't handle anymore. At 1-0 we're not under so much pressure and can take a little more time to look for goals.

I'm not excusing our play, i'm getting regally fucked off with Tottenham, but I don't get how you can say "oh, the decisions didn't change anything". It's still an appalling decision, that could have made it a better game, even if the result still went the same way.

yeah, fair point; it was the falling-apart-post-urgency that fucked you really, if you'd played the ball about a bit more and tired chelsea out it might have been a different story. still, bring on goal line technology!

(and yeah how atkinson can GUESS at a decision like that is bizarre.. presumably a result of recent events, but still..)
 
Spurs lost coz both of their old centre backs could not handle Drogba's power and Mata,Ramires and Kalou's pace(although Kalou didn't make good use of that),end of discussion.
 
I actually feel kinda bad for Spurs. On their form if they don't make top 4 then it could be catastrophic because they're more likely to lose their top stars and it'll be back to square one and mid-table, but if they make CL then they might just be able to sign one or two more and progress into next season stronger (maybe even challenge for title again like they sort of did for a while this season). The way Spurs have played has been great this season so they probably 'deserve' CL football more than most but unfortunately they have just been competing (and playing great) for 70mins lately when you need 90mins. Oh well.

ARSENAL - WIGAN!!!! Al Habsi always has amazing games against Arsenal, I watch this game just to see Al Habsi BEAST!!! But hopefully Arsenal win :D
 
I LOVE YOU WIGAN! I JUST FUCKING LOVE YOU

Edit:Suddenly i'm not so scared of our derby at the Emirates ;)
 
at 1-0 it makes a massive differance.
the one at the world cup was even worse, 2-2 from doing nothing all half can be a momentum changer.

Dindn that happen in a champions league final arsenal were in? a goal was scored but the play was pulled back for a red card+pen?
 
yeah lehmann got sent off i believe

also i love wigan, they just dick around for 30 games then turn up for the last 8 and stay up. ultimate football trolls!
 
Arsenal switched off completely twice and gifted Wigan two goals which they took well so the scoreline is fair enough in my book. I think the Arsenal players probably thought they could just turn up and win 4-0 and be done with it because they were jogging for Wigan's two goals. They only picked up urgency after 2-0. This means Arsenal will have to win our next match to keep the gap and guess who we play next :naughty:

I'm looking forward to it, bring it on HBK!
 
Looks like Arsene packed the wrong Walcott today.

Disappointed with Chamberlain and Gervinho, too much hero ball from them. I appreciate their directness will lead to them being far more willing to take on players themselves, and tbh it's something every team leads, but not to the extent where you're basically ignoring teammates.

And Chelsea would still be 4 points behind us even with a win. I'm not worried about them....yet.
 
I'd imagine it wouldn't feel very nice for them to overtake us considering how much the entire Arsenal blogosphere have been gloating about finishing above them the last few weeks.
 
In fairness they've been gloating most of the season so it's well deserved both ways! Well that isn't saying much because pretty much every club in the top 7 apart from Newcastle has been gloating to their rivals at some stage about how they're gonna win the league blah blah blah injustice... winning it next year... power-shift in the city... not racist just misunderstood etc etc
 
Good showing from Wigan, I prefer Arsenal to be pressured into securing that 3rd and final Champions League automatic spot. I love how sometimes relegation-bound teams will beat the top teams in the league and lose to everyone else.
 
At least we've set up some nice drama going into the last 4/5 games of the season. Battles at both ends of the table that are too close to call, all with a decent number of teams in. I'm suprised noone is officially down. I mean, I'd rather Spurs we're home and dry in 3rd or such, but, it looks like it's squeaky bum time for all involved!
 
Dubby.. why would you prefer Arsenal to make shit harder on themselves? That's ridiculous.

Just a poor performance today.. these are the matches we need to win so when we're up against clubs that are really dangerous.. it's not tragic if we lose or draw.

But we are Arsenal.. we never make it easy on ourselves.
 
May god have mercy on you Gunners coz you're gonna face a side hungry for victory after being fucked by Barca(Yes i'm pessimistic but can you really blame me?)
 
Tottenahm vs. Chelsea

I do agree that the second 'goal' was not a goal. Goal-line technology should be in next season. I thought Spurs were the better side in the first half for large periods, but Chelsea weathered it and scored a great goal, so fair play to them. I believe Chelsea started the second half better, and while people are saying goals change the momentum of the game, I think the way in which Chelsea's second goal was awarded actually made Spurs play better. They made it 1-2 and it was very much game on.

The decision to not send Cech off was correct. The 'last man' rule is a myth. It's denying a clear goal scoring opportunity, which Cech did not do. Bale scored the tap in and that is simply how the rules work. The only other possibility was to give Cech a yellow card, but yellow card worthy challenges are often six of one and half a dozen of the other. So say what you will about that, but it would have made no difference other than upping the disciplinary of a game. I'm sure we all want to see less cards handed out, especially for genuine attempts to win the ball.

The key changing point of the game was Harry Redknapp bringing Defoe on. He showed a bit of naivety, thinking he could go and boss Chelsea via giving up the midfield, as he believed Spurs were on top after their goal. It instantly backfired and they got dominated in the middle for the rest of the game. This is probably the more likely reason why Chelsea won the match. If that 'goal' wasn't given, I woudl have fancied Chelsea to score next anyway, but we'll never know that now.

Arsenal vs. Wigan

Well.. Wigan really have hit some form. They always perform better when they're fighting relegation. They probably should have gone down about five times in their Premier League career by now, but they always find something extra. I think Wenger was a bit bitter in his post-match interview. They were beaten by the better side, just like Man Utd were. I bet if Wigan had been in a comfy position in the league with about 35 points with 10 games to go, they'd suddenly hit dire form instead and go down. But when their backs are up against it, they manage to pull out big wins. They'll get at least one win from their remaining games, but right now I'd fancy them to finish above Aston Villa.

Diving

All I'm going to say is watch Monday Night Football more often if you don't. Gary Neville's analysis is top notch. He's 100% honest, no bias towards anyone, and nearly always extremely accurate. He is the best football pundit in my life-time of watching football already. I did like Andy Gray as a pundit, but Neville is already even better. Quality stuff, if you're actually interested in the tactics of the game, teams, managers etc you'll really appreciate what he has to say. His piece on diving was spot on. A general overall wording is probably:

Nearly every player will do what Young does. Messi dived at the end of a 2-2 draw and got booked not so long ago in La Liga. Why are you not calling Messi a cheat? Neville brought up instances of Gerrard, Beckham, and other top players doing the same. And no, they've not done it just once either. He has the choice of feeling contact, no matter how minimal, and going down. When the results matter so much, he's basically going to face a wrath from his team mates or manager if he stays on his feet and gets nothing, or a bashing from fans and media if he goes down. Most players would do what they feel is best for their team in that split second decision.

He brought up Rosicky going down in the Arsenal vs Wigan match straight after. He felt a stray arm touch him on the back, and when he realised he was running straight into two more Wigan players, he took the tumble. Diving? Yes. Cheating? I'm not so sure I'd like to use such a strong word, but each to their own. What if Arteta scored the free kick and Wigan lost 1-0, then get relegated by a point? This is how decisions like that can effect the game.

Tevez was booked for diving against Norwich when it was a clear penalty. Every game has many decisions like this, but it seems only when players of the big teams do it for penalties that it's brought up. Young shouldn't be branded a cheat for this, but I do agree he's going down softly. However, the current rules of the game mean he can feel that contact of a stray leg and go down. Swings and roundabouts. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

It's just that simple.
 
What? He's the best pundit I've seen. Watch his shit.

The fact that on Twitter he's had next to no negatives thrown against him, even from Liverpool and Man City fans speaks volumes.

If I had to pick the worst of the worst, it's Jamie Redknapp every day of the week mate 9.9 (and not just because he's ex Liverpool, it's because he's bias as fuck and shit at everything).

Oh wait sorry I found a quote from Gary Neville that is completely rubbish, you're right.

"Steven Gerrard, brilliant player, honest as they come".

9.9.9.9.9.9
 
not only is young the biggest cheat in the league but he's also an absolute terrible diver.

he should work on his diving technique. it's always the same unnatural movement. wherever you touch him he throws his body into the air like his legs were pulled up and apart from behind by some invisible puppeteer. also, after he goes down, he always has this pathetic 'did it work look?' on his face. it was painful to look at srs
 
Lol Man Utd vs Liverpool argument!

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