Pandora's Box

Welcome to Pandora's Box



Hi everyone!
Before I begin I just want to make a small Note:

When I build a team I always look for a fun and inspirational theme.
I prefer to not simply conform to whats "good" per say... However I am by no means someone who ONLY values originalty, as my team itself is not the most original I'm sure. That Being said the theme of this team is Greek Mythology and ancient heavens that the people believed in. Its been fun and I hope you all can apprechiate the ideas and have as much fun as I did.

Side Thought: To be honest even though Pokemon is a "childs" game and just a hobby, When you take the time to join a forum and write an RMT to be judged by your peers, Take the time to make it presentable and fun to read.

Just want to say Thank you to everyone who reads this RMT and rates. Its apprechiated.




Team Building: When I started this team I really wasn't sure where I was going with it. I knew I wanted to utilize rain, and I knew I wanted to use Gyarados. However after endless testing, Gyarados just wasn't for me. And sadly I was unhappy with my old time favourite mon.
The team went through SO MANY members, Its hard to believe when i look back, so instead of showing you how I built this, I'm just going to show you the Graveyard: I have thoroughly tested - Latios, Salamence, Dragonite, Gyarados, Tornadus, Tangrowth, Parasect, Zapdos, Rotom-W, Magnezone, Mamoswine, Hydriegon,And last but not least Ferrothorn.



At a glance:
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Politoed (F) @ Leftovers
Drizzle - Quiet 232Spatk, 216 Hp, 56Spdef (1 Speed IV)​

Hydro Pump
Perish Song
Hidden Power [Grass]
Ice Beam​

Poseidon
Well Politoed summons infinite rain. Something my team can apprechiate and abuse. However they aren't totally reliant on the rain. Politoed itself acts as not only the rain inducer but as a tanky special attacker. I'm running a Quiet nature on politoed so that I reach 131 speed.This means my weather will prevail about 95% of the time we both start our respective weather incuders. Unless your running macho brace or iron ball like I was. Tyranitar can still be slower than me if it has a 0 speed iv and a slower nature. But thats pretty uncommon as most tyranitars don't run 0 speed Ivs. And lets be honest without Scarf Politoed isn't out running anything notable anyways. Hydro Pump is for pure power and main stab of choice. Hidden power grass if for Gastrodon and other annoyances running about OU. Ice beam for coverage and Perish song is for breaking up set up sweepers and baton pass. Of all the Toed sets I've tried, and believe me that's just about all of them I'm finally happy with this one.​


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Terrakion (M) @ChoiceScarf
Justified - Jolly 252Speed, 252Atk, 4 spdef

Close Combat
Stone edge
Earthquake
X scissor

Ares
So I needed a scarfer. And my team was pretty weak to Volcarona and other set up mons. Terrakion was the Bull for the job
clocking in at 519 speed is exactly what i needed. He still retains raw power, not as much as banded obviously (wich i prefer).
But this team needed the speed more. He can fill a bunch of roles really, aside from the revenge killing he can easily clean up late game.
He provides another nice way to hit Celebi with x Scissor, along with other varios grass or psychic types that would other wise threaten my team. Earthquake is for other jirachi's and sometimes tentacruel when weakened enough to KO. Eq has solid coverage with Stone edge alone, forming the old sacred combo of edgequake. Stone edge in itself is one of two amazing dual stabs Terrakion is blessed with, murdering Sun teams for the most part and Always killing Volcarona (This is ofcourse if i dont miss). Close combat is the stab of choice I would say. Helping ease my Ttar pains, and just plowing through stuff. It also helps decimate special walls for me too, wich is always apprechiated. Love this Bull.


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Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
Poison heal -Careful 238Hp, 212 Spdef, 60Speed

Bulk up
Seed Bomb
Drain Punch
Spore

Hermes
Breloom is my "Answer" so to speak on Ttar and Volt-turn teams.
He may not be perfect at doing either but he has done his job extremely well and quite a few times sweeps for me. Spore is an invaluable move on any team, Sleep as we all know can be the end of a pokemon with the new mechanices behind it. Bulk up and drain punch go together like peanut butter and jelly. And seed bomb hits the Omni present Rotom-W for super effective damage. Breloom deals with so many threats to my team, including but not limited to; Tyranitar, Rotom-W, Scizor (on occasion)
Ferrothorn, Gastrodon, Blissey, Chansey, Quagsire, and many more. How ever thats not to say the rest of the team is completely done if Loom goes down to early. Overall this is a fairly popular and standard breloom, I'm sure everyone knows how much of a pain it can be at times.



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Jirachi @Leftovers
Timid - 252 HP 176 Speed 82 Spatk
Serene Grace

Calm Mind
Thunder
Psyshock
Substitute

Zeus
Jirachi in rain is simply unfair. Thunder having 100% accuracy and 60% paralyze rate is just brutal for opponents to face. Psyshock lets me get past special walls like chansey or blissey while actually setting up on them thanks to my 404 HP. It also KOs gastrodon after a few boosts and If gastro is running Earth Power Over Eq than I instantly set up on it. Rachi is a pokemon who simply wins matches, you may think you've won but until this little star is dead don't count you're chickens before they hatch. Jirachi is more often than not the MVP of the team, and has won me countless matches 6-0ing so many unprepared teams. He was previously a Spdef version but i find this to work much better for the team and my play style. He synergizes perfectly with Latias and is capable of taking alot of punishment without any investment thanks to his incredible typing. He and Latias make the perfect combination for winning games, at least for me.



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Latias (F) @Leftovers
Levitate - Bold 252 hp, 228DEF, 28 Speed

Calm mind
Recover
Dragon Pulse
Refresh

Aphrodite
Yes its latias! How awesome is she i mean seriously. Now before we start suggesting Sub over refresh I'm going to explain. This set allows me to always avoid status, maybe not at first but she is not plagued by Toxic stalling or anything else that infuriates me. Refresh is amazing and really lets her set up on almost anything that would normally try to wall her minus Ttar who obviously would eat her for lunch. Aside from him she has almost no worries and really is the dynamic duo parter for rachi. She synergizes perfect with the whole team, because she is immune to ground, can sponge fire all day, along with grass, water, thunder and fighting. Amazing defensive pivot aswell as an offensive threat. She can easily set up on so many of rains worst nightmares like Celebi , Breloom, Or virizion. And she always comes out on top. She provides yet another switch in to Rotom-W and helps when dealing with annoying pokemon like scarf Landorus or something else dumb.
She can eat CC's from terrakion for breakfast all day long aswell and even set up on him. She would probably be accountable for the second most 6-0s on the team behind rachi, so shes totally amazing to me and my favourite member of the team by far.



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Skarmory (M) @Shedshell
Sturdy - Impish -252 Hp 228Def 28Speed

Stealth Rock
Roost
Brave Bird
WhirlWind

Hades
I needed a physical wall capable of taking punishment from dragons and walling scizor. Well Skarmory was suggested to me by ShakeItUp and After some thought I refused to remove Latias because she's my favourite and this team wouldnt mean much if I wasn't using her. Instead of removing her, i opted to remove Hydriegon who was previously in this slot. Hydriegon was great but he brought alot of common weakness to this team, seeing as he shared more than 4 with just latias and terrakion alone. Stealth rock was a go for me, letting me go back to my previous rain sweeper Jirachi in place of Hydreigon. Roost is for self preservation, brave bird is a gift from the heavens really as it hits fighting types for some serious damage, along with bugs like volcarona if im lucky. Whirl Wind is my phazing move abusing rocks as much as I can and saving me from already set up sweepers. Skarmory overall is needed for this team as it is the only real shot i have at walling anything physical. I went with Stealth rocks over spikes for one main reason. I dont want to waste 3 turns setting spikes only to have them spun away. I dont carry rapid spin, and my team doesnt suffer from that much. Another reason is a very common rapid spinner is starmie who would shit on skarmory and then spin away all my hazards leaving me with nothing but wasted turns.




Conclusion: This team covers just about any threat to your standard rain team extemely well. Handles Sun teams easily for the most part, and more often than not has next to no trouble against sand.

Some flaws are that I do NOT carry rapid spin, but there isnt much on the team that really needs it. Nothing weak to SR nothing weak to Tspikes infact only ONE member of the team is even poisoned by them. Ofcourse spikes can be annoying but in most cases i just set up on my enemy while they think theyre spikes are going to bring the end for me.

Some notable threats are:

Tyranitar - Well not really. But changing the weather is never good. And pursuit can really screw Latias over.

Landorus - A pain in the ass because its speed and typing allow it to escape Para. However I'm never hard pressed to kill it. I've never been bothered except late game

Gliscor - Well acrobat can be annoying for sure, usually politoed will KO it, Or I just phaze it out with skarm and better prepare for it before it returns. I always have found a way to play around it, and making it waste its flight gem is crucial.

Volcarona - On paper it hits 4/6 for super effective and can set up on some of my mons. Never bothered me, maybe its just the players who use it or something but I've never been swept or bothered by the Moth. Terrakion helps clear the way.

Quagsire - The devil... well not since adding in Breloom but still.. The devil...

Importable:
Politoed (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 216 HP / 232 SAtk / 56 SDef
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Perish Song
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Scald

Latias (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Refresh
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Dragon Pulse

Terrakion @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- X-Scissor

Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
EVs: 236 HP / 212 SDef / 60 Spd
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Bulk Up
- Spore
- Seed Bomb
- Drain Punch

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 80 SAtk / 176 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Thunder
- Psyshock

Skarmory (M) @ Shed Shell
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Stealth Rock
- Roost
- Brave Bird
- Whirlwind


Thanks! Everyone who took the time to actually read this :) And rate.
Hopefully you all love it as much as I do. Its been alot of fun, and I plan on using this team for a long while... If anyone is wondering its current rank is mid 1200's, but the top I've ever peaked at was 1409. Nothing to write home about but it was rather fun to reach that height for the first time.

Peace ~ SharpEyes
 
Nice team. So I think this team could really use a scarfer as stuff like DD Dragonite and Volcarona could really give you trouble once they set up as they'lI outspeed your whole team. Ferrothorn seems like the most replaceble here, as Breloom can check opposing rain teams, while Jirachi can sponge Dragon-type attacks. I suggest using a Choice Scarf Terrakion over Ferrothorn. Terrakion is a great fit on your team, breaking down special walls for Latias, Hydreigon and Politoed. Terrakion also checks Volcarona and dragons (which somewhat compensates for the absence of Ferrothorn). Losing Ferrothorn also means you lose Stealth Rock, so I suggest using a specially defensive Jirachi. Terrakion makes up for the loss of Psyshock and SpD Jirachi can take Draco Meteors, while forming a solid defensive core along with Latias. Jirachi's Wishes will be huge for your team. Since you're running Macho Brace on Politoed, the Wish support will greatly help with winning weather wars. Finally, I suggest using 60 Spe EVs on Breloom. This enables Breloom to outspeed minimum Speed Heatran, Choice Band Tyranitar, Skarmory, and defensive Politoed.

Terrakion | Justified | Choice Scarf
Jolly | 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Close Combat | Stone Edge | X-Scissor | Earthquake

Jirachi | Serene Grace | Leftovers
Careful | 252 HP / 224 SpD / 36 Spe
Iron Head | Body Slam | Wish | Stealth Rock


Hope this helps!
 
Nice team. So I think this team could really use a scarfer as stuff like DD Dragonite and Volcarona could really give you trouble once they set up as they'lI outspeed your whole team. Ferrothorn seems like the most replaceble here, as Breloom can check opposing rain teams, while Jirachi can sponge Dragon-type attacks. I suggest using a Choice Scarf Terrakion over Ferrothorn. Terrakion is a great fit on your team, breaking down special walls for Latias, Hydreigon and Politoed. Terrakion also checks Volcarona and dragons (which somewhat compensates for the absence of Ferrothorn). Losing Ferrothorn also means you lose Stealth Rock, so I suggest using a specially defensive Jirachi. Terrakion makes up for the loss of Psyshock and SpD Jirachi can take Draco Meteors, while forming a solid defensive core along with Latias. Jirachi's Wishes will be huge for your team. Since you're running Macho Brace on Politoed, the Wish support will greatly help with winning weather wars. Finally, I suggest using 60 Spe EVs on Breloom. This enables Breloom to outspeed minimum Speed Heatran, Choice Band Tyranitar, Skarmory, and defensive Politoed.

Terrakion | Justified | Choice Scarf
Jolly | 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Close Combat | Stone Edge | X-Scissor | Earthquake

Jirachi | Serene Grace | Leftovers
Careful | 252 HP / 224 SpD / 36 Spe
Iron Head | Body Slam | Wish | Stealth Rock

Hope this helps!

Hi BTzz thanks alot for the rate, I was "iffy" at first because I was attached to my Rachi set, however After testing your idea and implementing the changes, Its been alot easier and alot smoother when dealing with alot of old nemesis's And you were right aboiut breloom, I had those evs i just Types it wrong here. Thanks alot for the rate. :) Keep em coming
 
Hey there! Sounds like a fun Rain team to use, but how do you deal with Scizor? Scizor can easily switch-in on Latias & Jirachi and spam U-turn considering you do not have a reliable switch-in to Scizor. Jirachi cant touch Scizor while Latias can get Pursuited to death or get hit by a strong U-turn. Also Scizor´s U-turn will do heavy damage to Politoed because of Macho Brace making him slower, while he can take a Surf from Hydreigon and KO back with U-turn. Terrakion is easily ravaged by Bullet Punch, and makes it more worrying is that a Bulky SD Scizor can easily set-up on the 2 pokemon I mentioned previously, tank hits and simply KO with boosted Bullet Punchs. It seems that your best hope is to pray for paralysis hax from Jirachi, but it is a very risky method by relying on hax. My suggestion is to replace Latias, who seems the weakest link of your team considering that your party does fairly well against Sun (Hydreigon & Terrakion), Sand (Breloom, Terrakion & Hydreigon) and Hail (Terrakion), while having a pokemon that does well against Scizor, and destroy BU Breloom, Virizion and Celebi. That pokemon is Rain Abuse Volcarona. With its infinitely high Sp.Atk, decent Speed and QD raising its Sp.Atk, Sp.Def and Speed, Volcarona is an excellent option to pack on Rain teams actually. Volcarona ravages Breloom, Virizion and Celebi with Hurricane or his STAB moves, while Fire Blast still OHKOs Scizor. Volcarona can also work against Sun-teams considering that Fire Blast gets powered up actually by Sun. Overall, Volcarona seems as an excellent option for your team considering that he can remove those threats by himself while sweeping in Sun.
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Volcarona (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flame Body
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Fire Blast
- Bug Buzz
- Hurricane
- Quiver Dance
 
Hey there.

Physical attackers can plow through your team quite easily since you lack a physical wall. Things like SD Scizor become major problems due to this, so this will cause you a lot of problems, especially due to the high amount of physical attackers in the metagame. You can easily fix this problem by running a Skarmory over Latias. Latias is pretty redundant on this team, especially since you already have a Dragon-type, Breloom takes Water-type attacks and Rotom-W, and Jirachi can take on Pokemon like Nasty Plot Celebi and CM Virizion. Skarmory is one of the best physical walls available, and can also provide your team with Spikes support; it also easily handles SD Scizor and gives you a more reliable switch-in to take hits from CB Scizor and others as well.

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
252 HP / 232 Def / 24 Spe
-Spikes
-Whirlwind
-Brave Bird
-Roost

I would also suggest giving your Politoed Leftovers over Macho Brace so that it can survive longer; being slower won't mean much if Politoed gets knocked out due to not having any form of recovery at all.

Solid team. Hope I helped, and good luck!
 
Hey there! Sounds like a fun Rain team to use, but how do you deal with Scizor? Scizor can easily switch-in on Latias & Jirachi and spam U-turn considering you do not have a reliable switch-in to Scizor. Jirachi cant touch Scizor while Latias can get Pursuited to death or get hit by a strong U-turn. Also Scizor´s U-turn will do heavy damage to Politoed because of Macho Brace making him slower, while he can take a Surf from Hydreigon and KO back with U-turn. Terrakion is easily ravaged by Bullet Punch, and makes it more worrying is that a Bulky SD Scizor can easily set-up on the 2 pokemon I mentioned previously, tank hits and simply KO with boosted Bullet Punchs. It seems that your best hope is to pray for paralysis hax from Jirachi, but it is a very risky method by relying on hax. My suggestion is to replace Latias, who seems the weakest link of your team considering that your party does fairly well against Sun (Hydreigon & Terrakion), Sand (Breloom, Terrakion & Hydreigon) and Hail (Terrakion), while having a pokemon that does well against Scizor, and destroy BU Breloom, Virizion and Celebi. That pokemon is Rain Abuse Volcarona. With its infinitely high Sp.Atk, decent Speed and QD raising its Sp.Atk, Sp.Def and Speed, Volcarona is an excellent option to pack on Rain teams actually. Volcarona ravages Breloom, Virizion and Celebi with Hurricane or his STAB moves, while Fire Blast still OHKOs Scizor. Volcarona can also work against Sun-teams considering that Fire Blast gets powered up actually by Sun. Overall, Volcarona seems as an excellent option for your team considering that he can remove those threats by himself while sweeping in Sun.
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Volcarona (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flame Body
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Fire Blast
- Bug Buzz
- Hurricane
- Quiver Dance


Hey! thanks for rating, I guess I can see why you might think Latias is the weakest, and really scizor CAN be annoying for sure, Not sure that its ever been the death of me but...I dont carry rapid spin and with a team like mine thats generally slow, i feel like Volcarona will always be at 50% hp when coming in.
 
Hey there.

Physical attackers can plow through your team quite easily since you lack a physical wall. Things like SD Scizor become major problems due to this, so this will cause you a lot of problems, especially due to the high amount of physical attackers in the metagame. You can easily fix this problem by running a Skarmory over Latias. Latias is pretty redundant on this team, especially since you already have a Dragon-type, Breloom takes Water-type attacks and Rotom-W, and Jirachi can take on Pokemon like Nasty Plot Celebi and CM Virizion. Skarmory is one of the best physical walls available, and can also provide your team with Spikes support; it also easily handles SD Scizor and gives you a more reliable switch-in to take hits from CB Scizor and others as well.

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
252 HP / 232 Def / 24 Spe
-Spikes
-Whirlwind
-Brave Bird
-Roost

I would also suggest giving your Politoed Leftovers over Macho Brace so that it can survive longer; being slower won't mean much if Politoed gets knocked out due to not having any form of recovery at all.

Solid team. Hope I helped, and good luck!

Hey, It seems like the common trend here is that Latias is my weak link. However during gameplay this has never been the case. Im just looking over my team and thinking about how much i really need or abuse the rain. aside from hydreigon im not doing much abusing. Seems to me i only even have toed for weather control. - This may sound crazy and totally unorthodox but Im thinking on just removing Toed and editing some move sets like..Hydreigon and just go from there.
 
Okay, Now because Latias is my fav poke, and member...not to mention it is much better than hydriegon for this team, as hydreigon is really only a sub par sub cm variant that brings the same weakspots as other team members....Im suggesting i change Hydriegon to Skarmory as ShakeitUp suggested. I dont want to lose latias ever, and im much more willing to part with hydriegon. Thoughts?
 
Hey unless youre having problems with BP which you shouldnt be thanks to Perish Song I would use Forretress instead of Skarmory. Same physical bulk but you get rocks AND Rapid Spin. You could throw in Tspikes too because some teams hate those,plus Forretress can escape from Magnezone while holding Leftys thanks to Volt Switch. Forrys x4 Fire weakness is also toned down because of the rain.

Use 3 Speed IVs on Toed for a slightly more powerful HP Grass. Your EVs on Toed are also wrong,too many. its 40 Sdef EVs,no?

Great team.
 
Hey unless youre having problems with BP which you shouldnt be thanks to Perish Song I would use Forretress instead of Skarmory. Same physical bulk but you get rocks AND Rapid Spin. You could throw in Tspikes too because some teams hate those,plus Forretress can escape from Magnezone while holding Leftys thanks to Volt Switch. Forrys x4 Fire weakness is also toned down because of the rain.

Use 3 Speed IVs on Toed for a slightly more powerful HP Grass. Your EVs on Toed are also wrong,too many. its 40 Sdef EVs,no?

Great team.

Ahh yes good eye, fixed the EVs on toed. Uhmm...Well with baton pass i usually just perish song then find the opportunity to set up first with rachi, or whirl wind on skarm kind of helps. To be honest though most BP teams just rage anyways, but yeah skarm and toed play a big role in dealing with them. Now about forrey, i like forry and it does bring spin but it doesnt have that ground immunity like skarm wich better helps deal with landorus and helps save rachi from time to time. plus whirl wind is always helpful as it doesnt get owned by mr.mime.
 
Hi there. Solid looking rain team.
It seems to me like strong fighting types could cause trouble for you like conkeldurr.
Skarmory can't do much to them even using bravebird because conk just boosts defense with Bulk up. Latias would be KO'd by payback and unable to KO with Dpulse right away. And after a few Bulk ups it seems to be game over from there. Also conkeldurr apprechiates paralysis and gets a guts boost.

I would change Either Skarmory or Terrakion for Tornadus. Tornadus can KO volcarona and Dnite using either hurricane or HP ice. Also decimates fighting types.

overall really fun looking rain team.
 
Tbh conkeldurr can be annoying but only if i don't pay attention. terrakion and skarmory are pretty valuable and more versatile compared to tornadus wich i have tested alot already.
With this team alot of threats are handled by practice and good judgement.
Thanks for the rate though.
 
Well, I really can't add much, seeing as how everything that I would have suggested has already been suggested. One nitpick though is that ares's name is spelled Ares, not aries.

Sorry, but that's my grammar correction side kicking in.
 
Well, I really can't add much, seeing as how everything that I would have suggested has already been suggested. One nitpick though is that ares's name is spelled Ares, not aries.

Sorry, but that's my grammar correction side kicking in.

Oh wow my bad. corrected it though, leave it to me to mispell something so crucialhaha. thanks
 
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