Ho oh shouldn't be running roost anyways. It's much better off running BB/SF/filler coverage though I guess losing sleep talk is a hit but mehs I can't see darkrai being as common in XY.
Why would aegislash ever kings shield against xerneas? I'm almost positive iron head + shadow sneak is a ko on it while shrugging off the rest of its attacks. And even if xerneas switches it's still a win for you
Both a SE HP Ground and a NVE Moonblast cannot get the OHKO on Aegislash, and Aegislash win either way. Not running Focus Miss means you get walled by Steel Arceus, Ferrothorn, Dialga, among other steels
Dialga is dragon , u dont need to run the focus blast on it ~
I dont know how u calculate252/0 variants can take a +2 Moonblast and OHKO back
I dont know how u calculate
397*1.5*1.3*95*2*42=6177717*0.85~1.00=5251059~6177717
dialga 252hp/0sdef
404*236*50=4767200 , 100% dead
dialga 252hp/252sdef
404*299*50=6039800 , 15% dead , 85% alive
so only the full sdef/hp dialga can survive a +2 moon blast
I guess everyone will has different PM to outspeed in their mindHow many speed EVs are we estimating we'll want for a Geomancy set?
Fundamentally we can't do that as it goes against the point of Ubers and Ubers policy. I mean if we could do that and wanted to Kyogre would've been banned long ago.So... You guys think Xerneas will be the first suspect tested pokémon in ubers tier because "Power Herb Geomancy"? I see this behemoth centralizing ubers like hell because this typing and superoverpowered move.
+1 SpD boost and the holder gets perma-Taunted.Fundamentally we can't do that as it goes against the point of Ubers and Ubers policy. I mean if we could do that and wanted to Kyogre would've been banned long ago.
alexwolf slightly off topic but what does Assault Vest do?
Ah I see. Definitely a potential check with Roar but +1 Focus Blast still hurts it quite a bit (and no SR kinda sucks)+1 SpD boost and the holder gets perma-Taunted.
You can't use Roar with Assault Vest. Your best bet would be Iron Head.Ah I see. Definitely a potential check with Roar but +1 Focus Blast still hurts it quite a bit (and no SR kinda sucks)
Good point about Psyshock, although we were talking about Assault Vest Dialga. Thunderbolt 2HKOes Aegislash though, which would otherwise completely wall you. It really depends on which of the two, Poison Arceus or Aegislash, becomes more common.A resisted Moonblast is stronger than a neutral Thunderbolt, which means Thunderbolt is really only better on Ho-oh, and Heatran.
248/252+ Heatran with Assault Vest is 2HKOed by +2 Focus Blast
248/252+ Heatran without Assault Vest is immediately cleanly OHKOed.
And Heatran cannot OHKO back with Iron Head
Hence I think Psyshock should always be used over Thunderbolt because it hits Ho-oh, bulky poisons and pink blobs harder than any of its other coverage moves, and also providing almost unresisted coverage.
Dialga still takes a shitload from +2 Focus Blast (71.78 - 84.65%) with Assault Vest and 252/200, but even 56 Atk Iron Tail cannot OHKO Xerneas in returnGood point about Psyshock, although we were talking about Assault Vest Dialga.