Pokémon Gardevoir

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False Sense said:
...Why? Trace is one of Gardevoir's best assets. Being able to copy the ability of an opposing pokemon is an extremely powerful utility, especially when you can turn that ability against them. You could copy something like Water Absorb to absorb an incoming Water attack, Intimidate to cripple a sweeper, Natural Cure to heal status, or even something like Multiscale to abuse. Even on Mega Gardevoir, you should probably run Trace since it can give Gardevoir a free switch in before it mega evolves, or even give it a potential boost if it manages to copy something like Speed Boost. I don't think Synchronize nearly matches up to the utility of Trace.
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Because I'm mega evolving and hate to lose Pixilate (if that's possible)
EDIT: Megas don't have other abilities.
 
Ho-Oh_Pwns_Lugia said:
Because I'm mega evolving and hate to lose Pixilate (if that's possible)
EDIT: Megas don't have other abilities.
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I'm well aware of that. Perhaps I wasn't quite clear of that in my post, but as Nubbins pointed out, Trace is always the preferred ability due to the benefits it can grant, and considering Synchronize is kind of bad as far as abilities go.

And I believe the Ability Capsule is one time use.
 
Looks like I have to wait for AR 3DS. Dammit.
EDIT: Still, is my Kirlia (soon Gardevoir) usable? It can't be that bad because I'll be Mega Evo'ing it later.
 
I posted this earlier, but I'd really like someone else to test it out, because I'm only one person and I think this set has immense potential, not to mention no one else has even mentioned this as an option.

azureleaf17 said:
There's something in Gardevoir's moveset that I think may be somewhat underrated: Future Sight. Future Wish and Doom Desire are the two strongest attacks of their respective types, and cannot be blocked by Protect or any similar move (including Chesnaught's signature Spiky Shield and Aegislash's signature King's Shield). Thus...

Mega Gardevoir (Future Sight Offensive Support)
Ability: Trace (Pixilate)
IVs: 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spd
Nature: Timid / Modest
Item: Gardervoirite
- Future Sight
- Moonblast
- Focus Blast / Shadow Ball
- Wish / Will-o-wisp / Healing Wish

Nothing will really feel comfortable taking a STAB 120 BP attack coming off of 165 base Special Attack unless it's resisted or immune. However, this set is designed not only to take out such checks, but to force the opponent into a rather uncomfortable position and soften things for its teammates to clean up later. Dark-types will eat a super-effective STAB Moonblast from the aforementioned monstrous Special Attack stat, and Steel-types will not enjoy a Focus Blast. Shadow Ball is slashed as an option to hit opposing Psychic-types for super effective damage as well as hitting Aegislash, which it would not be able to touch otherwise. The last moveslot is mostly filler, but the first two options slashed improve Gardevoir's ability to take hits and support the team. The Future Sight / Wish combo allows Gardevoir to act as a good pivot and gives it some form of recovery, whereas Will-o-wisp cripples physical attackers that try to prey on its lower defensive stat. Teammates that can use the Future Sight incoming to its advantage really make it shine, such as Fighting-types that can decimate the Dark- and Steel- types that try to negate the hit. For this reason, Healing Wish is also slashed as an option in the last slot, fully charging up a weakened teammate to come in and use that final Future Sight to its advantage.
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azureleaf17 said:
I posted this earlier, but I'd really like someone else to test it out, because I'm only one person and I think this set has immense potential, not to mention no one else has even mentioned this as an option.
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Future Sight is incredibly gimmicky but the buff is intriguing. I used it in the middle of gen 5 out of sheer boredom because of how stale the meta was. Was pretty funny, I only used it a couple of times but it was hilarious. I used it on someone once and they immediately switched into ttar then taking a focus blast on the switch lol. He completely forgot.
 
I love gardevoir but I'm kind of new to the whole competitive pokemon thing but here's my thoughts
trace > pixilate so dont mega evolve.
play as SP.def tank and take
leftovers
will-o-wisp
wish
protect
moonblast

I've tried offensive mega gardevoir in game and her coverage is amazing but alot of times i really wish that she didn't have to get the useless pixilate.
 
muggy8 said:
I love gardevoir but I'm kind of new to the whole competitive pokemon thing but here's my thoughts
trace > pixilate so dont mega evolve.
play as SP.def tank and take
leftovers
will-o-wisp
wish
protect
moonblast

I've tried offensive mega gardevoir in game and her coverage is amazing but alot of times i really wish that she didn't have to get the useless pixilate.
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Pixilate is far from useless. Gives you some great new options, and it also gives a 30% power buff to the turned moves, so what pixilate are you calling useless?
 
muggy8 said:
I love gardevoir but I'm kind of new to the whole competitive pokemon thing but here's my thoughts
trace > pixilate so dont mega evolve.
play as SP.def tank and take
leftovers
will-o-wisp
wish
protect
moonblast

I've tried offensive mega gardevoir in game and her coverage is amazing but alot of times i really wish that she didn't have to get the useless pixilate.
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Yeah, how about no? Pixellate gives all converted moves an extra 30% buff. Pixellate Round hits through subs with 119 power, and Hyper Voice will be better once that's released. MGardevoire is monstrous with Pixellate, and it should not be discounted.
 
Ckarasu said:
Yeah, how about no? Pixellate gives all converted moves an extra 30% buff. Pixellate Round hits through subs with 119 power, and Hyper Voice will be better once that's released.
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I'm not convinced Round is worth using, even with the boost its still weaker than Moonblast. Are subs really common enough to justify the 15% power drop?

I'm of the opinion that Pixilate is useless, at least until Hyper Voice is available; and even then, its underwhelming compared to some of the abilities other megas got.
 
Lord Jesseus said:
I'm not convinced Round is worth using, even with the boost its still weaker than Moonblast. Are subs really common enough to justify the 15% power drop?

I'm of the opinion that Pixilate is useless, at least until Hyper Voice is available; and even then, its underwhelming compared to some of the abilities other megas got.
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Yeah, hitting through subs is useful. Otherwise, there a few pokemon that can set up safely behind them. Also, after doing some calcs, Hyper Voice 2HKOs most of the metagame, at the very least. Pretty sure that's not useless.
 
Lord Jesseus said:
I'm not convinced Round is worth using, even with the boost its still weaker than Moonblast. Are subs really common enough to justify the 15% power drop?

I'm of the opinion that Pixilate is useless, at least until Hyper Voice is available; and even then, its underwhelming compared to some of the abilities other megas got.
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this is kind of what i was thinking. trace is so good for a support gardevoir and pixilate might be great for offensive gardevoir, wouldn't it be better to mega something else like kangashan?

anyways i'm not feeling it for pixilate until she gets hyper voice.
 
Say, can we discuss movesets that DON'T use Hyper voice? Because some of us need something to use on their Gardevoir's now. Here is what my Gardevoir uses

Moon Blast
Psychic
Thunder Bolt
Calm Mind

After one calm mind she can take a hit and dish it out with her Perfect SpA IV. I am debating on switch up some moves though. Shadow Ball would be great over psychic (though having her not have a Psychic move seems off... plus she can hit poisons so hard). maybe over T-bolt. That gives her perfect coverage.
 
well moves that dont involve hyper voice for me moon blast, psychic/psyshock, thunderbolt/focus blast, will-o-wisp/thunder wave is what i'm running on my offensive gardevoir and it has been working ok for me. still wishing that she'd retain her trace after mega-evolving right now cuz pre-hyper voice
 
Here's a fun team member for Gardevoir:

Baton Pass Scolipede
-Iron Defense
-Protect
-Baton Pass
-Megahorn or EQ

And with this you could completely forsake Speed EVs, instead going for 252HP/252SpA/4Def on MegaGardevoir
Protect once, Iron Defense as much as your HP allows, Protect again, Baton Pass, have fun sweeping.

Been working great for me so far.
 
i was just looking around and another idea came up which is trick room since gardevoir can take huge advantage of trick room with her under impressive base 80 speed and decent defense bulk, you can run her in a trick room setup and catching people off guard as a trick room lead or a trickroom support for a trick room team.
 
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