Source?Just learned that she can get Foul Play from Minun.
Just learned that she can get Foul Play from Minun.
That's not a bad set, but I can guarantee you'll miss memento. Once whimsicott is done wreaking havoc it becomes a death passer; might as well cripple one final pokemon while it's at it. The weak link is leech seed; it always had its uses but it's list of hard counters just grew immensely. I also don't see the point of moonblast, especially uninvested. Does it even 2hko hydreigon?
Definitely.
0 SpA Whimsicott Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hydreigon: 256-304 (65.9 - 78.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
If rocks are up, Whimsicott does pretty well vs Dragonite.
0 SpA Whimsicott Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Dragonite: 168-198 (51.8 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Whimsicott: 79-93 (24.4 - 28.7%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery (watch out for fire punch)
If Garchomp kills one of your guys with Outrage? Whimsicott's got him in checkmate.
0 SpA Whimsicott Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 188-224 (52.5 - 62.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
If you lock this impossible Tyranitar into Pursuit I believe you win quite easily after the sandstorm ends.
0 SpA Whimsicott Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 54-66 (13.3 - 16.3%) -- possible 7HKO
252+ Atk Tyranitar Pursuit vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Whimsicott: 29-35 (8.9 - 10.8%) -- possibly the worst move ever
It's not the worst filler move you could have.
i know this was posted about a month ago, but before anyone else sees it and wonders if it's true, i would just like to point out that minun doesn't even learn foul play, unless it's some obscure event move i couldn't find.Just learned that she can get Foul Play from Minun.
i know this was posted about a month ago, but before anyone else sees it and wonders if it's true, i would just like to point out that minun doesn't even learn foul play, unless it's some obscure event move i couldn't find.
also, i just want to reiterate what's been said in this thread a few times that the fairy typing isn't the only thing that makes whimsicott (more) awesome in gen VI.
switcheroo being compatible with other egg moves like encore and memento is pretty fucking rad. i know that switcheroo used to be overlooked a lot because encore is basically standard on every set, but the cott can now run the prankster / switcheroo / lagging tail combo without giving up encore.
Why? A Lagging Tail guarantees the holder will go last, like Stall.Lagging Tail? Wouldn't Iron Ball be a better choice?
i mean there is no 'best' choice really. iron ball if you want to cripple a flier/levitator, lagging tail to make them definitely go last, you could use a flame/toxic orb for status (and run the risk of not being able to switch onto a mega and status yourself), you could give them a choice item or assault vest to lock them into something (or out of status moves). hell, you could even switch a black sludge to a non-poison type or just a random non-use item like mail or a pokeball just to get rid of their item.Lagging Tail? Wouldn't Iron Ball be a better choice?
Being able to tank and sweep a Garchomp is amazing enough in itself that I'm not sure if anything else really matters anymore in this world.also, i just want to reiterate what's been said in this thread a few times that the fairy typing isn't the only thing that makes whimsicott (more) awesome in gen VI.
Why? A Lagging Tail guarantees the holder will go last, like Stall.
This is why u-turn is one of the best moves in the game and an absolute necessity on Whimsicott, who has so many hard counters! If they got venassaur, you know its coming in. Relying on a 55% accuracy move isn't the answer my friend.EDIT: One of these days I might just run Grasswhistle for that asshole Venusaur.
This is why u-turn is one of the best moves in the game and an absolute necessity on Whimsicott, who has so many hard counters! If they got venassaur, you know its coming in. Relying on a 55% accuracy move isn't the answer my friend.
But omg you are so right about stun spore; that move does some serious work. Any paralyze/voltswitch combo is just beyond fantastic...add priority encore to the mix and that's why whimsicott is so friggin good.
If it learned baton pass it might be something, but i think venomoth would still be better due to 1-move perfect coverage.eee, I'm more of a Lilligant person.
Encore/U-Turn/Stun Spore/Memento. Encore and U-Turn are all it needs to be effective though. Stun Spore is a great compliment to u-turn as it gives u-turn pseudopriority, But you have to be wary with it; I typically only use it when I know my opponent will switch out (encore synergy) and I feel like it won't be to a grass type or that stupid dripping dragon. Memento is perfect for when your powderpuff is done wreaking havoc, and the fates have decreed that it's time for you to clean up and send whimsicott riding that golden cottonball into the sunset.
My personal whimsicott is careful 252hp/252special defense, because that was the best fit for my usual gen 5 wifi team. On sim I sometimes switch to physical defense depending on what my team needs. It's hard to mess up Whimsicott because it only uses three stats (although there is a bit of an argument for speed, there's just as much of an argument for less speed, because losing a volt/turn battle gives you the momentum): just max HP, and decide which defense your team needs to cover and max that one.
random replies (because quoting seems to crash my phone): Whimsicott doesn't learn foul play, and i really can't stress enough how bad subseeding is
Then you realize that what is going to switch on Whimsicott is Ferrothorn or Venusaur, essentially sucking up all your momentum. U-Turn does a better job when it comes to take advantage of opponent switches.Why is sub seeding bad? You stall out tanks with more Hp than you do, and I've found the chip damage from leech seed extremely effective in whittling down your opponent's pokemon's Hp for a late game sweep. With encore and the new fairy type, Whimsicott manages to cause several switches that can be abused to good effect with Subseed.
Then you realize that what is going to switch on Whimsicott is Ferrothorn or Venusaur, essentially sucking up all your momentum. U-Turn does a better job when it comes to take advantage of opponent switches.