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I've ran Golbat recently to much success, but just a physically defensive variant since its typing sponges those types of hits better.

Haze and Whirlwind are also excellent support moves on it but it's hard to find a slot for either of them.

O right. I thought of whirlwind while writing the post but I didnt know it actually learned haze.
Adding them in right now, thanks :)

Also; on the Cress vs Reuni debate:
Reuni is overall better suited for a Calm Minder. While it does have a lower Physical Defense, it has higher SpA so you are not forced to set-up early game and can fire off some attacks. Magic Guard is also the single best abaility to ever have on a set-upper that is meant to play more defensively, being immune to Burn and Toxic is huge for a set-upper, given the fact that most stall and defensive teams rely on Toxic to beat bulky 'mons. Thanks to Magic Guard, reuni isn't forced to run Sub in order to avoid Toxic, like atomicllamas stated, and frees up a slot for recovery/coverage.
Yes Reuni is slower but that doesnt matter much since they're used as tanks anyway.

Cress on the other hand, as far as I've used it, is a formidable wall that just doesn't die. Really, Toxic, Moonlight and Psychic are all you really need and Magic Coat ofcourse and it can also run Dual Screens for Offensive teams. Lunar Dance is cool too.

tl;dr Cm Reuine outclasses CM Cress, but Cress is more of a team player, supporting it by walling stuff or setting up screens.
 
This Weezing set has been amazing.

Weezing @ Mental Herb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
- Toxic Spikes
- Taunt
- Sludge Bomb
- Pain Split

Mental Herb so you don't get out-taunted, Taunt and Toxic Spikes for Hazards. Not sure what everyone else is using, but he is really good.
 
This Weezing set has been amazing.

Weezing @ Mental Herb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature
- Toxic Spikes
- Taunt
- Sludge Bomb
- Pain Split

Mental Herb so you don't get out-taunted, Taunt and Toxic Spikes for Hazards. Not sure what everyone else is using, but he is really good.


That set is an arguably inferior (in general) version of Drapion. As a toxic spikes setter, Drapion has better bulk, a faster taunt, better typing in most scenarios, and a bigger offensive presence. Not to mention it can support the team with Knock Off and deter setup sweepers and rack up damage with Whirlwind. If you have not had already, I strongly recommend you try Drapion.

Weezing is more suited to a wall/tank role rather than a toxic spikes setter, since it has access to some sort of recovery and Will-O-Wisp. If you want Weezing, then try this set:

Weezing @ Black Sludge
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk or (252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Def)
Bold Nature (Calm)
-Toxic Spikes
-Pain Split
-Will-O-Wisp
-Sludge Bomb
 
I keep forgetting to use and mention Gogoat, the best physical Grass type in the tier (well Tangrowth can make a case but w/e)
Gogoat @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Bulk Up
- Horn Leech
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
I used this set on my very first XY team. Obviously this isn't viable at all in OU now with all the Flying offense and Charizards right now, but it is a perfect fit for RU. It is probably a good idea to invest more into Special Defense, maybe 160 in Sp. Def and 96 in Attack with an Adamant nature. Bulk Up is perfect in conjunction with its 123/62/81 bulk and solid 100 base attack to patch up that mediocre defense while also giving much necessary power to its attacks. Horn Leech allows it to heal itself with Leftovers and Earthquake and Rock Slide provide nice coverage together. Synthesis and Leech Seed are options for this set, but you are walled much more easily and Grass and Flying types would be much harder to take down.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/rubeta-114018728
Gogoat doesn't do much here, but it serves me well, only taking 37% from Ice Beam with little investment into Sp. Def and taking only 52% from Dodrio's Drill Peck after a Bulk Up and OHKOing with Rock Slide. Good stuff.
I know you guys are sick of this item, but I see an Assault Vest set being plausible with Gogoat as well with its access to Horn Leech and Giga Drain and fairly good offensive movepool with Earthquake, Rock Slide, Wild Charge, Brick Break and Surf. Come on folks, get on Gogoat's Wild Ride!
 
The Assault Vest is an item which gets commonly misused. As it trades a boost in Special Defense for the inability to use non-attacking moves it is understandably hard to use. The Assault Vest should used on already bulky Pokemon which have a viable all out attacking set, the extra Special Defense allows them to function as a special tank whilst maintaining offensive presence. Good examples of this would Escavalier and Raikou with the additional Special bulk allows them to take on many of the tiers special attackers. Escavalier's incredible special bulk allows it to survive *4 super effective Fire-type moves, whereas Raikou can take on special Tornadus one of the tiers biggest threats.

Bad examples are Pokemon like Drapion, Toxicroak, Dragalge, Pangoro, and Gallade as their main niches use non-damaging moves, be they boosting, status, or hazards these Pokemon rely on them. Drapion and Dragalge both use Toxic Spikes as well as a variety of other status moves. Toxicroak abuses Swords Dance to make it a very potent sweeper, however without these boosts it is very easily walled. Gallade is somewhat different as it can play a Specially Defensive set with Wish + Will-O-Wisp, I have yet to see this set used but would be a far more effective as it nowhere near as easily worn down as it doesn't rely Drain Punch as its only form of recovery. Pangoro's only niche is Parting Shot which it can't use with an Assault Vest, rendering it useless.

TL;DR: Don't use Assault Vest on any random Pokemon, if it doesn't have an all out attacking set which actually benefits from the additional bulk it shouldn't be using Assault Vest.
 
Because Assault Vest was brought up yet again (although AV gogoat isn't really as bad as other really terrible av mons i've seen like Dragalge and Toxicroak and Exeggutor). I'm finally gonna post something i've wanted to post for a long time: Assault Vest is not a good item to simply slap on random Pokemon.

I mean, of course Assault Vest looks pretty great on paper, and on the right Pokemon it can really be a great option because of the extra SpD boost, but that's the important part: the right pokemon. I've seen Assault Vest slapped onto a very wide variety of Pokemon that simply don't work well with it, and the thing i ask is, why?????? So anyways, i'm going to go through a list on what Pokemon make bad AV users, so you don't make the mistake of using AV on a pokemon it's not well suited for.

Types of Pokemon that Assault Vest should not be used on:

1) Frail Pokemon.

I know that an increase of bulk on a frailer Pokemon might seem good to new players, but most of the time it's simply not worth it, trust me. Usually a frail Pokemon with Assault Vest might be able to take some weaker neutral hits, but Pokemon that are strong enough can still easily break through them, and besides, there are better options for items on glass cannons anyway, such as Choice items and ESPECIALLY Life Orb.

Examples of Pokemon i've seen do this: Toxicroak, Zoroark, Cinccino, Ambipom,exploud, Durant, SHARPEDO (i wish i was joking).

these go under pokemon that might want to set up (gatr)

2) Pokemon with important support moves.

Once again, an extra increase in bulk on a bulky Pokemon might sound nice, but way too often do i see Assault Vest being used on Pokemon that have good support moves, and because of Assault Vest's drawback, these pokemon can't use these important moves anymore, most often making the boost from Assault Vest not worth it. The same thing goes for Pokemon with moves such as recover, the added durability really isn't worth it if you're sacrificing your ability to regain hp, is it? (there are exceptions to this, such as Slowking being a solid AV user despite sacrificing its ability to use slack off because of regenerator but most of the time this is a good rule of thumb).

Examples of Pokemon that i've seen do this: Amoonguss (lol sarificing spore with those offensive stats). Rhyperior, Bronzong, Dragalge, Pangoro, Cofagrigus, Reuniclus, Venomoth, Milotic, Drapion, Alomomola.

3) Pokemon that might want to use boosting moves

Assault Vest might not seem quite as obviously bad on some of these Pokemon, but trust me, a lot of the time Pokemon with boosting moves would most rather be boosting their stats to set up a sweep instead of being able to take some hits with Assault Vest, all in all there are just better things these Pokemon could be doing.

Examples of Pokemon i've seen do this: Feraligatr, Samurott, Gallade (not "terrible" per se cause it has good bulk and drain punch, but i'd still much rather use SD or Bulk Up most of the time, Drapion, Venomoth, Slurpuff.

As for Pokemon that make good Assault Vest users, Pokemon with good bulk, high offenses, and the ability to run 4 attacking moves while still being fully effective (that means not missing utility moves, looking at you rhyperior) are excellent Assault Vest users, Escavalier being a prime example.

Extra bonuses that can make a good assault vest user great include: Regenerator (dont do this if the pokemon is named amoonguss or alomomola), Draining Moves, Intimidate, Knock Off, Dragon Tail or Circle Throw, So look into Pokemon like that when looking for a good Assault Vest user (assuming they don't fit into one of the categories listed above).

I got ninja'd but might as well post anyway
 
Kind of echoing Molk's sentiment about Assault Vest. I'll take it a step further and just list some good AV Pokemon right now:

Druddigon: Obviously Druddigon plays a lot like Escavalier. It's a little faster and has a lot of offensive options to utilize. Dragon has a few more weaknesses, but makes up for this with resistances to Electric-, Fire-, and Water-type moves that Esca lacks. Outrage is, more or less, unusable on a set like this since it locks Druddigon in, but Sheer Force is great for this set anyway with moves like Iron Tail, Fire Punch, Thunder Punch, and Gunk Shot available to it. There's also Rough Skin and Dragon Tail if you're into that.

Slowking: For anyone who has experience with AV Slowbro in UU, Slowking plays very similarly. King has less physical bulk to feed off of, but the special bulk is amazing. Regenerator makes up for the lack of Slack Off and Leftovers while it has access to Dragon Tail to avoid being setup bait if you're worried about that.

Tangrowth: Another Regenerator Pokemon that can effectively use Assault Vest. Although it can hurt to lose Sleep Powder, Tangrowth has Giga Drain and Knock Off to provide some unique utility for an AV mon. Grass may not be a good defensive typing, it has some solid resistances to Water-, Ground-, and Grass-type moves while Tangrowth itself has great physical bulk and solid mixed attacking stats to utilize.

Meloetta: This is one I've had experience with and I like it quite a bit. Great overall special bulk, solid typing that leaves it with few weaknesses, and good raw Special Attack. It has Knock Off and U-turn to provide utility and is one of the better all purpose answers to Delphox.

While this only lists four (five if you count Escavalier, which Molk mentioned) these are probably the only five you should think about using AV. MAYBE Gallade, but as Molk mentioned, I would just rather use SD, Bulk Up, or Sub. Esca, Drudd, King, Growth, and Meloetta can perform a variety of roles and at least one of them should be able to fit your team's needs in terms of synergy while being equipped with an Assault Vest.
 
Meloetta: This is one I've had experience with and I like it quite a bit. Great overall special bulk, solid typing that leaves it with few weaknesses, and good raw Special Attack. It has Knock Off and U-turn to provide utility and is one of the better all purpose answers to Delphox.
I used to use that quite a bit. If you're using Relic Song, the Assault Vest provides you a lot more opportunities to get that off.
 
I just said that Assault Vest was another set that it might be able to use. I've never tried it out for myself, so I wouldn't know how well it does. I only mentioned it because it fits the right criteria: it is generally bulky, has a movepool with good coverage, has draining moves to keep itself alive and good attacking stats. I wasn't even suggesting that Assault Vest was a superior set to what I posted, I personally thought that Bulk Up would be better, hence I tried it out and posted a set for it. It's like you guys see Assault Vest, stop reading and rant. I definitely agree the points you all make and acknowledge that Assault Vest cannot be slapped on every Pokemon, but it honestly fits Gogoat to a tee (aside from Bulk Up being a slightly superior set).
 
This biggest problem with Assault Vest Gogoat isn't the lack of Bulk Up, it's the lack of Milk Drink. Reliable recovery moves are a real blessing for a Pokemon with solid bulk like Gogoat's, and giving that up is a huge price to pay for the Assault Vest. I suppose such a set wouldn't be completely terrible given Gogoat's fairly diverse offensive movepool and decent offenses, but when a similar set with Milk Drink can dish out the same damage while taking hits in general better given the access to reliable recovery, you'd be hard pressed to find a good reason to use the Assault Vest.
 
really stating the incredibly obvious here but status is so good in this meta. like way too good. like every team is carrying a bunch of status around and yet no one wants to waste a moveslot on heal bell / aroma. i've seen a few miltanks / various clerics running around but it's kind of rare. having an absorber of some kind is super useful. you can also carefully manage it with immunities and prediction switching but everything is chucking wisps and toxics these days.
 
One of the really nice things I've found about Druddigon is its ridiculous versatility. Have any of you guys tried out Sheer Force Life Orb Druddigon? Assault Vest provides more bulk, but the advantage of Life Orb is that can destroy its would-be checks and counters (it can be tailored to deal with almost anything) while retaining a lot of bulk (and not losing health due to Sheer Force). With its really colorful movepool, it can make a really good lure for physically defensive mons that your team needs to take out without even resorting to special moves. Given that its Dragon-type moves don't get boosted and take Life Orb recoil, and that Dragon doesn't have great super-effective coverage in RU (while Drudd probably has perfect neutral coverage anyway, depending on the moves you use), I'd personally forgo STAB. Its Gunk Shot for example hits very hard, OHKOing Granbull (at -1) and Aromatisse, while almost OHKOing physically defensive Tangrowth. But with options like Crunch (which can 2HKO physically defensive Cresselia 75% of the time), Thunder Punch (often OHKOes Golbat after rocks), Fire Punch, and Rock Slide (in addition to such non-Sheer Force-boosted moves as Sucker Punch, Dragon Claw, Aqua Tail and Earthquake), it's a pretty deadly threat. I suppose it could also use support moves like Glare and Stealth Rock while still hitting very hard, which is one advantage it has over AV.
 
This biggest problem with Assault Vest Gogoat isn't the lack of Bulk Up, it's the lack of Milk Drink. Reliable recovery moves are a real blessing for a Pokemon with solid bulk like Gogoat's, and giving that up is a huge price to pay for the Assault Vest. I suppose such a set wouldn't be completely terrible given Gogoat's fairly diverse offensive movepool and decent offenses, but when a similar set with Milk Drink can dish out the same damage while taking hits in general better given the access to reliable recovery, you'd be hard pressed to find a good reason to use the Assault Vest.
Oh, yes you make a good point. The only thing about Milk Drink is that Gogoat doesn't have much room to use it aside from a 3 attacks + Life Orb set (which actually isn't a bad idea). But, yeah I can see why AV Gogoat would be outclassed especially when Tangrowth can utilize it better physically and when its Bulk Up and Life Orb sets are (probably) better.
 
Oh, yes you make a good point. The only thing about Milk Drink is that Gogoat doesn't have much room to use it aside from a 3 attacks + Life Orb set (which actually isn't a bad idea). But, yeah I can see why AV Gogoat would be outclassed especially when Tangrowth can utilize it better physically and when its Bulk Up and Life Orb sets are (probably) better.
Actually, Bulk Up sets has room for the move. Horn Leech / Bulk Up / Milk Drink / Rock Slide or Earthquake
 
I would put gallade under solid mons to use it.

Sure it has perfectly fine sd/bulk up sets, but with a strong drain punch/knock off and good coverage assault vest gallade can be a very effective pivot. I dont think it should be written off as "not terrible". Its just adds another role it can fill rather than a setup sweeper
 
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I would put gallade under solid mons to use it.

Sure it has perfectly fine sd/bulk up sets, but with a strong drain punch/knock off and good coverage assault vest gallade can be a very effective pivot. I dont think it should be written off as "not terrible". Its just adds another role it can fill rather than a setup sweeper

The main problem I have with Assault Vest Gallade is that although it does have extremely good special bulk it has dreadful physical bulk. Unlike most viable users of Assault Vest Gallade has very little reason to use it, as the Assault Vest doesn't let it do anything it couldn't before. On the Specially defensive set it can use Will-O-Wisp to patch its poor Defense, and on boosting sets it either boosts its Defense with Bulk Up or it will be sweeping with Swords Dance, i.e. trying not to taking hits. Although Assault Vest Gallade isn't bad, it's just outclassed by Bulk Up and Specially Defensive sets (potentially).

Gallade also doesn't really have an all out attacking set. It could use Life Orb four attacks, but this would be outclassed Swords Dance as Gallade can easily set up and the loss of coverage is compensated for by +2 Close Combat and still has a choice of two coverage moves. It can run a Choice Scarf, however Choice Scarf sets aren't generally comparable to Assault Vest sets as it uses a Choice Scarf to function as a revenge killer something it can't do nearly as consistently with an Assault Vest.
 
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I just said that Assault Vest was another set that it might be able to use. I've never tried it out for myself, so I wouldn't know how well it does. I only mentioned it because it fits the right criteria: it is generally bulky, has a movepool with good coverage, has draining moves to keep itself alive and good attacking stats. I wasn't even suggesting that Assault Vest was a superior set to what I posted, I personally thought that Bulk Up would be better, hence I tried it out and posted a set for it. It's like you guys see Assault Vest, stop reading and rant. I definitely agree the points you all make and acknowledge that Assault Vest cannot be slapped on every Pokemon, but it honestly fits Gogoat to a tee (aside from Bulk Up being a slightly superior set).

i wasn't really going after AV Gogoat specficially, although i agree the lack of Bulk Up and Milk Drink makes it a problem, it's just that the mention reminded me to make that post (i'd been planning on making an av post for a while), sorry if it seemed that way.

Also for the record i actually really like the concept of Gogoat in general, at the very least its really bulky, has reliable recovery, and checks shaymin and raikou thanks to its typing and access to sap sipper.
 
I keep forgetting to use and mention Gogoat, the best physical Grass type in the tier (well Tangrowth can make a case but w/e)
Gogoat @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Bulk Up
- Horn Leech
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
I used this set on my very first XY team. Obviously this isn't viable at all in OU now with all the Flying offense and Charizards right now, but it is a perfect fit for RU. It is probably a good idea to invest more into Special Defense, maybe 160 in Sp. Def and 96 in Attack with an Adamant nature. Bulk Up is perfect in conjunction with its 123/62/81 bulk and solid 100 base attack to patch up that mediocre defense while also giving much necessary power to its attacks. Horn Leech allows it to heal itself with Leftovers and Earthquake and Rock Slide provide nice coverage together. Synthesis and Leech Seed are options for this set, but you are walled much more easily and Grass and Flying types would be much harder to take down.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/rubeta-114018728
Gogoat doesn't do much here, but it serves me well, only taking 37% from Ice Beam with little investment into Sp. Def and taking only 52% from Dodrio's Drill Peck after a Bulk Up and OHKOing with Rock Slide. Good stuff.
I know you guys are sick of this item, but I see an Assault Vest set being plausible with Gogoat as well with its access to Horn Leech and Giga Drain and fairly good offensive movepool with Earthquake, Rock Slide, Wild Charge, Brick Break and Surf. Come on folks, get on Gogoat's Wild Ride!
This set looked really neat so I decided to try it out. I gave up rock slide for milk drink and ran maxSpD instead of max At. I think it was a bad idea though, because it only did around 70% to an escavalier at +3 x( , which ended the sweep attempt (it's mega horn did 60% at +3 def, and my lefties got knocked off so it finished me off while I tried to milk drink back to health). Anyway, it's a pretty cool set, and I'll have to use maxAt for more power.

Also Chenkovsky I have been using Gallade and it's great! I run SD with shadow sneak instead of knock off as usual, because gallade isn't extremely fast. I should post my full gallade set soon, with some calcs :)
 
This set looked really neat so I decided to try it out. I gave up rock slide for milk drink and ran maxSpD instead of max At. I think it was a bad idea though, because it only did around 70% to an escavalier at +3 x( , which ended the sweep attempt (it's mega horn did 60% at +3 def, and my lefties got knocked off so it finished me off while I tried to milk drink back to health). Anyway, it's a pretty cool set, and I'll have to use maxAt for more power.

I'd keep Rock Slide over Earthquake (better coverage with grass), as while it's weaker, it still gives you better coverage and actually hits Moltres/Tornadus on the switch or sums.

Also Chenkovsky I have been using Gallade and it's great! I run SD with shadow sneak instead of knock off as usual, because gallade isn't extremely fast. I should post my full gallade set soon, with some calcs :)

Shadow Sneak is sooo weak though. Like, mons that can run Stab Sneak passes it off for Suckers and whatnot.
I mean, damn, it's weak.
 
Has anyone talked about Shiftry yet? Because I will.

This thing is by far the best offensive Defogger in the tier. Yes I know we don't have that much Defoggers in general but being the best offensive one still counts for something. Its typing, mixed offenses, and movepool allow it to do almost anything for your Defog-loving Pokemon outside of just Defogging. Gastrodon and Slowking giving Moltres trouble? Throw Shiftry in against them and wreck them with Grass STAB. Swellow being walled by Rhyperior and Doublade? Special Shiftry promptly cleans up both Pokemon with Leaf Storm / Dark Pulse should Swellow nail them with U-turn. Yanmega can't get past Registeel or Aromatisse? Mixed Shiftry can feign a special set to lure them in and Low Kick / Explode on them out of nowhere. It has STAB Knock Off too, depriving Pokemon of their Eviolites, Assault Vests, and Leftovers. Shiftry is the one Defogger which scoffs at Milotic and Meowstic (Braviary is still a dick); Shiftry may even be the reason Milotic considers max Speed. As a price for being best offensive Defogger, Shiftry is also the worst defensively, often being put into situations where it must choose between Defogging or attacking before getting KOed.

And that's just Defog. Shiftry's STAB combo can be very painful for most of the bulkier Pokemon in the tier, and it is only exemplified with its access to Swords Dance and Nasty Plot, making it dangerously unpredictable. Swords Dance sets have Seed Bomb, Knock Off, Sucker Punch, and Low Kick, while special sets pack Giga Drain, Dark Pulse, Focus Blast, and even Extrasensory. Losing Nature Power as Earthquake really hurts though, as Drapion, Emboar, and Skuntank will be pains.

Thoughts on Shiftry?
 
I'd keep Rock Slide over Earthquake (better coverage with grass), as while it's weaker, it still gives you better coverage and actually hits Moltres/Tornadus on the switch or sums.
Shadow Sneak is sooo weak though. Like, mons that can run Stab Sneak passes it off for Suckers and whatnot.
I mean, damn, it's weak.
EQ is stronger against fires and gets steels and poisons who resist grass STAB. But yeah, helpless against flyers.

As for Gallade, here's my set and some calcs:

Gallade @ Life Orb
Justified 252At 252Spe 4Hp Jolly
-Drain Punch -Zen Headbutt
-Swords Dance -Shadow Sneak

This set is my favorite so far. Drain Punch heals up LO recoil and makes use of his solid SpD stat. Zen Headbutt is stronger than Psycho cut and Shadow Sneak (however weak) is his only form of priority, which is useful to keep a sweep going. Getting an SD off actually isn't too hard with his SpD and ability to force out things afraid of a close combat. Here are some calcs after an SD.
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Gallade Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mismagius: 335-395 (127.8 - 150.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+2 252 Atk Life Orb Gallade Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Raikou: 140-166 (43.4 - 51.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

+2 252 Atk Life Orb Gallade Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Accelgor: 225-265 (74.5 - 87.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+2 252 Atk Life Orb Gallade Shadow Sneak vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Slowking: 265-315 (67.2 - 79.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

+2 252 Atk Life Orb Gallade Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aromatisse: 433-511 (106.6 - 125.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+2 252 Atk Life Orb Gallade Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Skuntank: 430-507 (104.8 - 123.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
As you can see, with some prior damage and/or hazards (not asking for much) Gallade can save his sweep from a mismagius Shadow ball or a specs Tbolt from a weakened Raikou. I included the skuntank calc because I see them all of the time try and stop Gallade by firing off a sucker punch. As long as you stay above 65% you're fine, and can drain punch back to health. Also, the best part is getting a Justified boost! This Gallade has swept time after time and I highly recommend the set.
 
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I would put gallade under solid mons to use it.

Sure it has perfectly fine sd/bulk up sets, but with a strong drain punch/knock off and good coverage assault vest gallade can be a very effective pivot. I dont think it should be written off as "not terrible". Its just adds another role it can fill rather than a setup sweeper

The reason I didn't put Gallade as a solid mon to use Assault Vest is due to the opportunity cost. While Gallade has Drain Punch to kinda keep himself healthy, and Knock Off to be a thorn in the side of physical attackers, he already has plenty of sets to utilize. Fast SD, Sub + 3 Attacks, Bulky SD, SpDef, Sub + Bulk Up, Choice Band, and 4 Attacks LO. Odds are, you're going to want the services of one of those sets if you're using Gallade more than you would want the added special bulk of Assault Vest.

Golemman , while SD Gallade is good, I really don't like Shadow Sneak on it. MAYBE on the Fast SD set since it doesn't have much bulk to work with, but the Bulky SD set really likes having Knock Off to remove boosting items from opposing Pokemon trying to break through it.

Punchshroom , I honestly haven't used Shiftry in the current meta, although I will admit it does look interesting. It got quite a few buffs with Defog, Knock Off, and the Dark-type in general. Steels don't laugh at its STAB combination anymore. Great mixed offenses, and it works well on Sun teams as well if you're into that sort of thing. I wouldn't say Braviary is absolutely safe since Knock Off is going to be doing a sizable chunk to it and removing its item (likely Choice Scarf) to make it easier for Shiftry or another member of your team to deal with. Interesting mon.
 
Shiftry is one of the tier's very few and generally pretty terrible means of getting rid of hazards. Dark typing is pretty great in this tier what with all the strong psychic mons running around, and shiftry has very workable mixed offenses. I'd probably lean more towards the physical side with shiftry because of sucker punch and knock off being great moves, but either is workable. Possibly even mixed with something like defog/sucker/knock off/leaf storm.
 
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