Just viewing over this move as of X & Y this move now has access to 100 base power berries of every type including fairy < < <. While in B&W this move seemed lack luster the 20 base power increase, I feel, makes it seem quite a bit more viable. This in conjunction with Unburden/Harvest can lead to some great coverage move synergy as well as open more viability with certain pokemon.
BATTLE TEXT:
The user draws power to attack by using its held Berry. The Berry determines its type and power.
Base 100 Berrys
Watmel Berry
Durin Berry
Belue Berry
Salac Berry
so on and so forth. . . Here are reference for every berry and its corresponding power.
Current Harvest Natural Gift Users:
Current Unburden Users:
Most Notable Natural Gift Users:
@ Ground/Grass/Fighting
@ Fire
@ Ice/Fire/Ground/etc
*
@ Psychic
* (252+ Atk Breloom Natural Gift vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Venusaur: 280-330 (76.9 - 90.6%) -- 25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock This is if they go for the switch in predicting the spore. )
I can update with sets if any of you see the potential in this move. I just haven't seen a thread posted about this and wanted to bring it up for discussion to see if the access to it can increase coverage viability in its potential users.
Notable Sets:
Talonflame@ Apicot Berry -If held by a Pokémon, it raises its Sp. Def stat in a pinch
Nature: Adamant/Careful
Evs: 252 HP | 252 Atk | 4 Spe
Moves:
- Brave Bird/Acrobatics
- Natural Gift (Ground 100)
- Roost
- Flare Blitz/Will o Wisp
Damage Calculations:
Chou's Talonflame
OG Gyarados
BATTLE TEXT:
The user draws power to attack by using its held Berry. The Berry determines its type and power.
Base 100 Berrys
so on and so forth. . . Here are reference for every berry and its corresponding power.
Current Harvest Natural Gift Users:
Current Unburden Users:
Most Notable Natural Gift Users:
*
* (252+ Atk Breloom Natural Gift vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Venusaur: 280-330 (76.9 - 90.6%) -- 25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock This is if they go for the switch in predicting the spore. )
I can update with sets if any of you see the potential in this move. I just haven't seen a thread posted about this and wanted to bring it up for discussion to see if the access to it can increase coverage viability in its potential users.
Notable Sets:
Talonflame@ Apicot Berry -If held by a Pokémon, it raises its Sp. Def stat in a pinch
Nature: Adamant/Careful
Evs: 252 HP | 252 Atk | 4 Spe
Moves:
- Brave Bird/Acrobatics
- Natural Gift (Ground 100)
- Roost
- Flare Blitz/Will o Wisp
Damage Calculations:
252+ Atk Talonflame Natural Gift vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 336-396 (87 - 102.5%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Talonflame Natural Gift vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 336-396 (87 - 102.5%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Talonflame Natural Gift vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 162-192 (47.5 - 56.3%) -- 82.4% chance to 2HKO
Alternatively you could use Salac Berry if your team is afraid of Ttar:
252+ Atk Talonflame Natural Gift vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 162-192 (47.5 - 56.3%) -- 82.4% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Talonflame Natural Gift vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 324-384 (95 - 112.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Chou's Talonflame
If I were gonna go with Talonflame though, I'd give Acrobatics a look over. Once you smash the enemy with Natural Gift, now you can abuse the full 110 Acrobatics power and avoid Brave Bird's Recoil. You can still always rely on Flare Blitz until you get Natural Gift off.
Talonflame
Adamant
252 ATK 4 DEF 252 SPE
pick your berry
-Acrobatics
-Flare Blitz
-Natural Gift
-Swords Dance
Pretty simple, Swords Dance as they bring in their counter, and smash it with a +2 super effective Natural Gift. Then go on a sweep with +2 Acrobatics / Flare Blitz.
There also seems like there could be some fun potential of abusing Salac Berry and its original purpose of boosting Speed, but without being able to find a slot for Substitute, that idea's pretty limited unless you get really lucky with a good damage roll (and then Flare Blitz would pretty much kill you so... probably not).
OG Gyarados
Gyarados @ Liechi/Watmel
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Intimidate/Moxie
88 HP/248 Atk/4Def/168 Spe
Dragon Dance
Water Fall
Natural Gift
Ice Fang/Earthquake
a few years ago someone in SPL used a Natural gift Gyarados with watmel berry to specifically destroy Ferrothorn, and I do believe he ended up winning. I don't remember the exact EV's but with Liechi Berry +1 248 Atk Liechi Berry Gyarados Natural Gift (100 BP Grass) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rotom-W: 300-354 (98.6 - 116.4%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO and against bold natured it's a free Liechi boost
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